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I've read a few of the posts in here and some of them were excellent I think the current jedi system is very poor and you spot on with revamping it.

The difficult part is deciding on how it should run...

My personal view on it, is that i would love to see it become story based and involve a serious amount of questing over a period of weeks/months. Jedi should not be obtainable in a day or a week but a goal to aim for.

I deffinately think that the system should be randomised for each player that begins his long journey so that specific paths can not be posted on forums so makeing it easy to complete.

The greatest way for the jedi system to function would be for it to let you evolve your character as you complete your missions. This would guarantee you some fun watching your character progress slowly along the mysterious path he has embarked upon. Mission choice should also play a part in what side of the force your character will end up upon. It is very easy for a padwan to become enticed by the dark side of the force as theyre so undiciplined (example Anakin) whereas a master must make a concious choice to turn to the dark side.

Missions should there for have multiple possible finnishings. 1 thats good for the light side of the force and 1 thats bad, with the final totals deciding which side of the force your character will unlock.

Personaly i think if you are gonna change the quest to make it all available. I read on the boards one guy said that he thinks it will be like the publish's 1 a month or a couple months. This will make alot of the players very mad we have all grinded and bled our way through professions after many months then to have to wait another 6 months or so to open our slot will realy p**s people off. I mean if your gonna do this at least leave the old system in too so those of us who don't mind grinding can grind and those who wish to stop grinding can do the quest to get it.

Also from most of the post i have been reading on this forum it sounds like the quest are for jedi not players seeking to open there jedi slot or am i just misinterpreting this. Oh and for all the flamers yes my grammer sucks thank you very much.

PLEASE

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r31909 wrote:
first off i dont think that there should be a limit to how many people can become a jedi. i think ever person that plays should have the oppurtunity to become a jedi. i am glad that you are thinking of changing it to quests instead of proffesion grinding that system blows last thing i have time for is to grind a bunch of different classes i dont like or want the idea is to enjoy the game and keep people playing. limiting the number of jedis only tells those that arent hard core players that you will never be a jedi cause you have a job and family and cant play 24/7 like some others. i think that you all allready have a good idea in your head about the quests and and your plan is probably better for the whole swg population then most of the ideas these people have. my sugestion to you is dont forget about us casual players

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I whole-heartedly agree with ya man!!!

I made a post about Jedi having to do quests to get status effect resists from quests. I think their normal resists like from energy should be recieved this way as well. I don't think anyone likes to see a Jedi running around in full composite. If Jedi could do quests that reward them with certain kinds of damage type resists this would remove the need for them to wear armor. Make it so they can't have incredibly high resists when first starting out like in novice Jedi, limit it to like 15% per damage type. but later on make it so they can do more quests to get more damage type resists. I'd much rather be out caught up in an intreaging quest than out grinding for weapon xp or any other xp. Make the quests full miny stories/multi legged quests instead of "This guy wants to kill me. Go kill him."

Another thing I think would be cool is making secret areas that only Jedi can go. Possibly new planets (Dagoba). I would love to see yoda at some point.

i remember back before release seeing an extensive write up on the 7 different forms of jedi i would like to see this incorporated into the game after veiwing the jedi skill trees i dont think its going to happen there so why not in the quests to become a jedi a master of each form is your point of contact (not only to give missions but to give the jedi wanna be some background in the different forms) just finding the master should be a quest (static for individuals but not for everyone (this avoids the 'rush' style of playing that is so common among other games this is an empire devided and jedi are STILL far and few between if anyone can be 'rush'ed through soon only jedi will be playing oh and noob player under a week old) quests to get component parts for jedi would be nice instead of having a light jedi havng to turn in to a mass murder just to get what he needs for a sabre the dark jedi heck they should enjoy that go kill 1million meatlumps and find a single force crystal non combatants whould have the opertunity to finish the quests not just tka commando BH masters not every one is heavy combat and shouldnt have to be to be a good jedi the jedi where warrior monks not just warriors more akin to samuri or the knights templar then the 82nd airborne have a Q&A session that is nonstatic with some of the jedi masters you even some practice combat with the master to get a feel for the upcoming jedi not just out running escort or scouting missions have the Q&A option for combat runs instead of just solid combat interspersed with the scout/escort missions travel remember these guys are still in hiding (not to say that they cant be on corelia naboo tatooine) andwith vehicles now in the game and hopefully soon sky / star vehicles the planets are getting more and more accessible as well as smaller build a practice sabre that is less then a jedi's beginner saber and lasts hours and is untradeable (like the current sabres) search for "rare" components that are more like natural occuring resources rather then loot maybe special surveying tools to find it that the wannabe jedi needs to craft (again treat like the sabers) this puts a limit on the "rush' yes a storage droid will get around this still but i know you guys are working on that too (maybe a line of code that makes them act like vendors) this keeps the difficulty of attaining jedi up but allows anyone including noncombatants to attain jedi not just the heavy defence stackers

I think quests related to your profession is the point.... the first system was nice somewhere, but it was nearly impossible to have a clear link in Role Playing.... my master swordsman must become a master musician !!! Now, I am master architect, want to keep that profession and have no need to learn to fight...

Here is the idea, to follow jedi path you need to finish what you begin, dixit master yoda... so quests related to an advanced profession with master rank should be nice. Somewhere, the player should choose (if he had 2 masters) which profession he chooses to follow the path of differents quests. It will be then a known first step for all.

After that, quests with increasing difficulty, that also need cooperation with other players at one moment or another... It will improve interactions too, and i hope then roleplaying.

To keep active these holocrons (I think holos were really funny stuff, for trade, quests....), we can also imagine that they told you who is the next person you have to meet, or what do you have to achieve to do one step more toward FS.

But, the last step should remain clear for all players. Indeed, players that dont have time to play hours and hours per day should be able to follow the path with same chances than others....even ifit takes more time to complete tasks.If you have to find out what the last step is, it s a huge advantage to people "sticked" to their computer because they have more time to explore, find.... and that doesnt sound fair to me (even more causei cant play that much!!!).

Hope this can help.

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Groomaka - Infinity

Holo grinders who have not yet unlocked (everyone who is at their silent.) Should be compensated well. This is only fair, and it the Jedi population experiences a slight surge as a result of this; the players are not to blame.

The definition of "compensated well" would be that after grinding for at least three months (most of them.) They should not have to take another six months out of their playing year to simply unlock. (The Jedi grind without macroing is going to take another year anyway.)

There is no doubt that Jedi is the "end game" as it stands. However, requiring those who have not unlocked to spend months more than they would have grinding just to follow the quests would not be fair by any means. (They've already at least halfway earned their slot.)

I believe that IF there is to be Jedi population control, or any sort of method it should lie not within the FSCS. (It's been hyped up and propagated so much that many people do in fact DESERVE (yes, DESERVE (in capital letters) their FSCS slot. Paying customers that have spent hours upon hours of time. Casual Gamers that have gone hardcore. Etc. etc.) their slot. I believe that it was once stated that the FSCS would not be rare, and at this point I would agree it shouldn't be.

However, any methods employed to keep high level, capable, indeed-legendary-Jedi rare; must be employed AFTER the FSCS is attained.

It's only fair.