Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Faction Insurance Day Pass: How much?
Thunderheart wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
This is a PvP issue, Exclusively.
Means people who play PvP.
The "PvE" part is forwhen a Factioned NPCIncapacitates you- - NOT general PvE. General PvE will remain as-is.
Means FACTIONed Death.
Any Factioned Death is covered....
You have one major flaw, grief killing. somone who incaps you 3 times and never deathblows.
PLEASE READ! I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA!
This should be a feature that you have automatically, after acheiving a certain rank. For example, once you become a Staff Corporal or some other rank, you gain the faction perk of no item decay for as long as you remain in the faction. This will encourage more players to join the fight in theGCW, and give a meaning to moving up in the ranks.
On the other hand, they could just remove item decay completely. Advanced Composite armor is very expensive. Insurance for it is also expensive.
Thunderheart wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
This is a PvP issue, Exclusively.
Means people who play PvP.
The "PvE" part is forwhen a Factioned NPCIncapacitates you- - NOT general PvE. General PvE will remain as-is.
Means FACTIONed Death.
Any Factioned Death is covered....
Seeing as how TH likes to dumb down all his responses to us i figured i would dumb down my response to him... check it out,
TH says: This is a PvP issue, Exclusively.
Notice the italics on EXCLUSIVELY. Websters dictionary defines EXCLUSIVE as : excluding or tending to exclude all others; shutting out other considerations, happenings, existences, etc. Exclude is defines as : to refuse to admit, consider, include, etc. ; shut out; keep from entering, happening, or being; reject; bar.
TH also says: Any Factioned Death is covered....
Am i breaking a big secret here? Is this some elite, hush hush exploit that nobody told TH about? I am referring to the fact that you can get FACTIONED PvE MISSIONS from a faction mission terminal. When you entertain the possibility of something OTHER then PvE, then the word 'exclusively' is a loooong stretch. When there is the possibility of having this 'issue' with NO PvP WHATSOEVER, then REPEATEDLY CLAIMING THAT IT IS PvP EXCLUSIVE IS REALLY REALLY DUMB.
*mutters to himself* sheesh, the lengths i have to go to when i want to make a point
*puts his dictionary away*
DuuRandor wrote:
...When you entertain the possibility of something OTHER then PvE...
I meant PvP obviously...
... couple months till i get that edit button...
Aakhperkare wrote:
Realism? There is no realism in this decay. What are you even talking about?
THE FIRST priority to a game is to make it fun. It's backwards here. Penalties are heaped upon players and very little reward is given. If there was an actual, viable reward to participating in the GCW, it may be different. Right now, people that wear armor are penalized twice. Death decay and usage. Which forces them to bring more credits into the system to buy more armor when there is no decient money sink to remove credits from the system.
Where is the fun in the clone wars?
Yes, dacay sucks, i wish there were something different, like a timer that not allow you to join the battle again for 20-30min. But at leat with decay ppl sometimes stop the clone wars for lack of equipment.
HeyHolo wrote:
I don't know any specific number, but it should not take more than one mission to earn the faction points(fp) to obtain this item....so I'd say no more than 60-70fp for this device.
I still am confused...devs say they cannot tell the difference between PvE and PvP deaths, if that's so then how can they make it so that tis device makes it so you need no insurance for faction only PvE (and PvP) deaths? I mean if they can do that, isn't that exactly what htey said they couldn't do? I don't get this...
Come on, who are you thinking to talk with?
60-70 fps for you is a mission payout? What do you use for kill the npcs and the base? Your AT-ST while you rest getting a sunbath?
If you are a PvPer i presume you are more than a marksman or a brawler, only lvl 10 missions pay that low fps and they are just for ppl with starting professions, i just ran some test missions today with my pistoleer account, do you know what i got from a normal mission solo? 5400cr misions with 3 NPC, each NPC is worth from a minimum of 9 fps to a max of 13 fps, the destruction of the flag is other 13 fps and the completion of the mission is other 60, that means that you get at least 100 fps in the case of a base with 3 rebel doctors (i never got more than 1 doctor on those missions) more realistic you will get 104-106 fps per mission and do you know what? You can get 2 mission on the same direction and complete them both in less than 407s (the duration of one of my sunburns). Grouping with your AT-ST you can get missions that pay 8400cr with 5 NPCs and 93 fps just for completion, and i was able to complete most of those missions without using the AT-ST (i stored it after getting the mission) and (when the missions wheren't more than 700m away from each other) complete them in the 407 sec duration of my sunburn. I got around 350-360 fps for 2 of those mission, around 3000 fps in just one hour and ten minutes.
Maybe a CH wil not be able to get those fps couse pets are fps eaters, but whoever have a decent fighting tamplate like one master elite profession (preferably ranged, sincefactional NPCs are mostly ranged and kite you if your a melee class)and some medic skills for cures theyr dmg on the field can get those fps.
If you aren't able to get high lvl missions couse you are a crafter, probably you have enough money for buy your fps from a smuggler.
Atanmir wrote:
Aakhperkare wrote:
Realism? There is no realism in this decay. What are you even talking about?
THE FIRST priority to a game is to make it fun. It's backwards here. Penalties are heaped upon players and very little reward is given. If there was an actual, viable reward to participating in the GCW, it may be different. Right now, people that wear armor are penalized twice. Death decay and usage. Which forces them to bring more credits into the system to buy more armor when there is no decient money sink to remove credits from the system.
Where is the fun in the clone wars?
Yes, dacay sucks, i wish there were something different, like a timer that not allow you to join the battle again for 20-30min. But at leat with decay ppl sometimes stop the clone wars for lack of equipment.
If there was a death penalty that gave wounds instead, it wouldn't be such a clone wars battle...