Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Worldmaker2k4
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:19 pm
#677






JoodahMacabee wrote:





Worldmaker2k4 wrote:





irott wrote:

I just cancelled my account.... Oh Wait! No I didn't.

I like playing this game and cancelling my account would serve no purpose.


JtLS is the most important thing that will ever happen. It NEEDs to be a part of this game.







Yeah, that was probably the most asinine post I've ever seen from a correspondent.


Especially one whose profession is as broken as professions come.


The GCW and the land-based game are what this entire game was sold as. We didn't buy it thinking, "Gosh, maybe they'll say '**edit** everything else for a year, let's blow it off and get the Space game installed!". We bought it to enjoy the game that was sold to us. Very few of us do these days.


Cancelling accounts is a perfectly good means of getting developer attention, and guess what? I'm doing it too. Not because I'm a sheep, but because I understand the community's priorities, and they apparently have nothing to do with SOE's or yours. Why in the hell are you a correspondent, anyways? Do you think they'll actually make Squad Leader anything but worthless garbage in a twitch-based space game?







Hurray for you. Alot of us arent because we enjoy it now... sorry.






Great. You represent the other part of the playerbase, then. That being the 1% of this thread that has a hard-on for flying a YT-1300 freighter called "TEH MELLIMIUM FALCIN!!1!!", or the Jedi.






MMMNJaran Anduuth - The White RaspNMMM
Den of the Rasp: Perishables and Equipment Black Market - Dantooine (-3939, 1285)

DaManiac
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:20 pm
#678

well then in my ever spiteful fit of rage i decided on wow.
Shinjo_Kanzaki
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:20 pm
#679

i've been saying that it's all about the bottom line to the people that hold the purse strings at SOE. it's hard to find a game developer that's motivated to make a quality game, and not just out after the money. with the choices they made so far, i'm starting to wonder if the development team even spends time playing the same game we do. is it too much to ask the developers to address the current concerns of the player population instead of introducing new things that will take months to fix and push back everything that was promised to us?

this game had so much potential, but over the course of the year it's been one disappointment after another. the only reason i'm still here is the people i met. every day that goes by, i find myself posting more and playing less.


/disappointed



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Shinjo Kanzaki - Sentinel


It's not lag, it's bullet-time.
Devsblow
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:21 pm
#680

I for on am sick and tired of being lied to. I'm tired of these problems not being fixed and you devs not caring about the gamers. I know all you jerks care about is money and I am not surprised by this. No one cares about their customers anymore, just the good ole dollar. Well devs, you can stick this game up your ass. I'm done with it. I am not a sheep and I will not keep hoping for this. Goodbye.
Geral_Corasjo
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:22 pm
#681

AMAZING

SIMPLY AMAZING


31 pages of simple nonsense, hate crap


Honestly, how many of you are cancelling your accounts?


You know what I say? ADIOS (I don't speak spanish btw)!!!!!!


Tell me please, I am fascinated by human nature....Why do you rant? Does it make you feel any better? Do you think you accomplished something? Did you make a difference here?


I too am disappointed by the push back in the GCW revamp and combat rebalance, and quote me if you will, I will be guaranteed not to be here by X-mas if the GCW isn't working but there is no need to start to shout "I AM CANCELLING MY ACCOUNT"...


Geezus, I reallly hope all of you are 12 yr olds because you sound like it.


"I'm a paying customer...." THEN DON'T PAY, LEAVE...THE DEVS (or atleast I) WOULD RATHER HAVE 1 GOOD CUSTOMER THAN 10 WHO COMPLAIN. hmm... WHEN YOU GO INTO A STORE, AND YOU HATE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE...THE PRODUCTS, WHAT DO YOU DO? STILL GO?


This game is without a doubt the best game I have ever played. You can do anything and I have almost as many friends ingame as I do in real life, its easy to make friends. This game as many bugs.....but don't you?


BTW- Someone mentioned 99% of the customers being upset...lol, we are merely a few who happen to check the forums...There are other people, right now, playing the game and enjoying it.


Okay, I'm done ranting about you.


Now to watch Conan O'Brien-my hero


Oh ya, something from my other post.....lol, you guys make me mad...

--------------enjoy--------------



grrrrrrr why does everyone have to complain about EVERYTHING!!!!


A Long Time Ago, In a Game far far away...


(this is what y'all sound like)


THE COMBAT MEDICS ARE TOO STRONG!!!


THE JEDI ARE TAKING OVER THIS GAME!!!!


THERE ARE TOO MANY JEDI!!!!


WHERES THE GCW???!


THERES TOO MANY REBELS!!!


THERES NOT ENOUGH IMPERIALS!!!


THIS GAME IS TOO BUGGY!!!


THIS GAME IS TOO LAGGY!!!


STORMTROOPERS ARE TOO WEAK!!!


AT-STS ARE TOO NERFED!!!


WHERES THE AT-ATS?!?


REBEL ARMOR SUCKS!!!


STORMTROOPER ARMOR SUCKS!!!


BH MISSIONS ARE SCREWY!!!


TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE WEARING COMPOSITE ARMOR!!!


ALL OTHER ARMOR SUCKS!!!


TOO MANY PROFFESIONS ARE BROKEN!!!


THIS GAME IS TOO EASY!!


THE DEVS ARE STUPID!!!


OUR VEHICLES STILL TELEPORT!!!


THE BUFFS ARE TOO STRONG!!!!


WE ARE TOO STRONG!!!


WE ARE TOO GODLY!!!


JEDI ARE TOO GODLY!!!


COMBAT MEDICS ARE TOO GODLY!!!


WHY ISN'T THERE A 3RD FACTION?!?


WHY DID THE DEVS HAVE TO ADD ITHORIAN!!!


ITHORIANS SUCK!!!


I HOPE THE 2ND SPECIES IS BETTER OR I'M CANCELLING MY ACCOUNT!!!


I HOPE THE GCW PICKS UP OR I'M CANCELLING MY ACCOUNT!!!


I HOPE THE JEDI POPULATION DIES OR I'M CANCELLING MY ACCOUNT!!!


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I do have to admit, you guys are great though....lol



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"You can't stop the change any more than you can stop the suns from setting" -Shimi Skywalker
"You were the NGE! It was said you would destroy boredom, not cause boredom! You were to bring balance to the professions, not leave them in darkness!" -Obiwan, NGE Ep3

Sundown6
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:23 pm
#682






irott wrote:

I just cancelled my account.... Oh Wait! No I didn't.

I like playing this game and cancelling my account would serve no purpose.


JtLS is the most important thing that will ever happen. It NEEDs to be a part of this game.





At the expense of Squad Leader (of which I was a non-holo Master for a good stretch), and well... every other profession and most core systems of the existing game we're paying for, apparently.


JTL remains an expansion.Merely apart of the core game,one thatwe've been getting along without for the past year. But I suppose that doesn't say much, since we've also been getting along without balanced combat, eh? =)


Whatever it adds will not begin to fix the central game, except presently, it's got more than ever riding on it-- because it has to make up both for existing expectationsand the disillusionment that comes with real changes to theexisting game being shelved on its behalf. Frankly, I'm dubious that it will ever meet either expectation, because the team that brings JTL is the sameteam that brought us the current game as is.


JTL eventually needs to be part of the game. Sane combat systems, balanced professions,and the GCW needs to be part of the game now.

DrMonoxide
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:24 pm
#683

Geral, they wouldn't give a **edit** if they had 10 complaining customers.


They still get the cash.



***DrMonoxide: Retired Doctor, Master Carbineer, Master BH, Treasure Hunter***
"I learn more about SWG from Amazon.com then I do from SWG's own developers." - Damicatz
Worldmaker2k4
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:25 pm
#684






One-of-Fourteen wrote:



Additionally, SOE is still trying to understand it's player community. Trust me, they really want to, cause then they can make more profits and employ more people, hopefully making the business grow.


What we have here with this announcement is a bit of a communication problem, because many of us can see what is really happening. We inform those who don't see it. So, it is usually best policy to not attempt to sugar coat anything.






You obviously haven't been active on the forums long. We didn't just suddenly develop "a communication problem". Communication got shived and stuffed in a dumpster 11 months ago. His family still buys space on milk cartons.


SOE hasn't done diddly to understand the community. They've done dozens of polls regarding coming content, and each and every one has been ignored and supplanted with garbage that we've had to subsequently fight to get removed. (Crafting changes, anybody?)


SOE has made (if you take a pathetically low average of 100k members since inception) well over 15 million dollars a month. A MONTH. PER MONTH. Fifteen. Million. That's just a low-end estimate, since the numbers in sales were given around 300k about half a year ago, and many remaining players have multiple accounts.


They have so much incoming capital to hire more staff that they could probably rent Disneyland every Sunday and sit in Star Tours with Sno-Cones and shout out emote ideas at the animatronic C3PO.






MMMNJaran Anduuth - The White RaspNMMM
Den of the Rasp: Perishables and Equipment Black Market - Dantooine (-3939, 1285)

cynnnn
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:25 pm
#685

Please add another cancelation to the list. I could try to list all the reasons why this game was a failure but I'm too busy refreshing the beta website for WoW to see if there is a sign-up I can get in on. I guess most Wookiees have a chip on their shoulder. You think the game sucked for you!!! If you really feel this game is great dont waste your time flaming the negative posts. Besides if it is so great why arent you playing right now????
DaManiac
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:26 pm
#686

hey geral u have i must admit, stated everything anyone ahs ever complained about in the history of this game.. woot almost community vet, im still pissed though

Shiva420
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:27 pm
#687

one of fourteen... how can they continue to make good profit if they ignore consumers demand? since day 1 DAYS FRICKIN 1 they have said they would fix professions and focus on the GCW because that is what the consumers were asking for... since then every day there have been 100s of posts, letters, ect- communications from the cunsumers telling the devs what they want from the game. it once again is being pushed to the back burner. yes they probably will get a sales boost when jtl comes out. but once people see the broken core game and what im sure to be an unbalanced space game (when whoever has the most $ gets the best mods for their ships wins) they inital profit increase will begin to decrease substantailly.

you said"Even with the problems that have existed, the game provides plenty of entertainment for the cost."

swg costs more the eq, planetside, and rumor has it it will cost just as much if not more then eq2. why will consumers continue to pay for a game that has more problems and less entertainment then games that cost less and have more stability and entertainment?



* Leah-Enlil *
account cancelled... ironicaly it ended exactly 1 year after it was purchased.july 25th.
pushing back the combat rebalance- and not fixing a core game system is the worst idea soe ever conceived.
- still hoping the dev team will get replaced and the game i once loved will get fixed. fix the core game, and problems.stop nerfing everything thats fun. stop doing things noone in the player community asked for!! listen to your customers damnit!!!
DaManiac
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:28 pm
#688

oh theys till got wow beta sign ups still going..?

DrMonoxide
Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:28 pm
#689

800 complaints and counting!



***DrMonoxide: Retired Doctor, Master Carbineer, Master BH, Treasure Hunter***
"I learn more about SWG from Amazon.com then I do from SWG's own developers." - Damicatz
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