Development Cycle Archive

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Legej wrote:

3) The biggest issue of all, PVE should not be immune to PVP. This is a MMORPG afterall, why take the MM out of the game? I can only imagine how frustrating it will be to watch a bunch of PVE imps killing rebel NPC's while I sit and watch (I'm rebel but it goes the same for both sides). I think its great that once a planet changes faction control you have to take the cities by force. But imagine another element... PC's defending their city along with the NPC's to keep it from falling while at the same time others where off putting up bases to take back control of the planet. Unfortunately that won't be possible with the PVE/PVP seperation in the current plan. You'll just have people puttig up bases everywhere with little player interaction.

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I don't agree with this. An MMO can be PvE only and still be an MMO. In fact a few MMOs that are out now are PvE only. Grouping to fight PvE targets is just as MMO as PvPing.

I find it equally as frustrating when my friends and I are out PvE hunting faction NPCS and an overt drives by and decides our group should be PvPing instead. Its all a matter of perspective.

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Legej wrote:

1) Rebel scans should not be concerend with sliced weapons or spices. They should only be concerned with finding disguised (on leave) imperials and keeping rebel held teritory secure. You already have the rebels working with Nym, a known criminal, to help their cause. Now if you were in Coronet and a Corsec trooper scaned you then I could understand them confiscating the spices or sliced weapons and fine you.

2) Jedi or anyone traveling with a jedi in their group (grouped with a Jedi and within 32meters of them) should be able to escape scans by using Jedi mind trick. Depending on the skill level of the Jedi it should be more successful when the Jedi has more skill points devoted to Jedi skills. This would also help protect Dark Jedi from Imps turning on them. I agree that Vader wants to get rid of all other Jedi but think about the scanning process... once the Imp found you were also an imp officer the scan would stop right there.

3) The biggest issue of all, PVE should not be immune to PVP. This is a MMORPG afterall, why take the MM out of the game? I can only imagine how frustrating it will be to watch a bunch of PVE imps killing rebel NPC's while I sit and watch (I'm rebel but it goes the same for both sides). I think its great that once a planet changes faction control you have to take the cities by force. But imagine another element... PC's defending their city along with the NPC's to keep it from falling while at the same time others where off putting up bases to take back control of the planet. Unfortunately that won't be possible with the PVE/PVP seperation in the current plan. You'll just have people puttig up bases everywhere with little player interaction.

4) I know that more plantes could be effected in the future but just wanted to make a point. Most planets should be effected by the GCW and transition control but there should be atleast 2 planets un-touched by imps or rebels. Lok for example has only 1 starport and is at a criminals stronghold. Doesn't seem like there would be much pressence of either faction there. This would give neutrals or other needing to avoid imps/rebels a place to lay low.

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I disagree with your assessment of Rebels not scanning for spices. Spice is a drug, and the Rebels want to keep the population drug-free just as much as the Imperials. I don't know about scanning for sliced weapons, though...I can see both the advantages and the disadvantages, and unless the devs can come up with a solid reason why sliced weapons and armor are bad and illegal, then I'm willing to lean more towards the Rebels just scanning for covert Imperials and spices.

I also disagree with your assessment of how PvE players should not be immune to PvP. I pay my $15/month like the rest of you, but I don't want to fight other players necessarily, and that's what's laregly kept me out of the GCW so far. I don't have the patience and time to invest in a PvP template to fight off the people who invest millions of credits in weapons and armor and then take you down with a surprise attack, anyway. Frankly, the removal of the TEF is the best thing to happen to the game, in my opinion. I don't want to fight other players, and so I've kept myself out of situations where that might be an issue. I want it to stay that way when the GCW changes go live. There shouldn't be a situation where I'm "forced" into fighting another player.

Yours and all the other scenarios of standing around watching while someone kills all the NPCs in a controlled city is identical to what happens now if you're covert. Been to Mos Espa lately? Piles of stormtrooper bodies everywhere, and I can't do a thing to the people doing it unless I go declare myself, but I don't want to open up that can of worms. So I watch helplessly instead. Yes, it's my choice, I understand.

Besides, killing the NPCs in a controlled city won't affect the outcome of the GCW standings. Bases are the key.

Message Edited by Darter on 02-09-2005 12:41 PM

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Darter wrote:

Spice is a drug, and the Rebels want to keep the population drug-free just as much as the Imperials. I don't know about scanning for sliced weapons, though...I can see both the advantages and the disadvantages, and unless the devs can come up with a solid reason why sliced weapons and armor are bad and illegal, then I'm willing to lean more towards the Rebels just scanning for covert Imperials and spices.

Message Edited by Darter on 02-09-2005 12:41 PM

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Anything in this game can be made illegal by the devs. Sliced weapons can be said to be illegal because current gun control laws forbid the modification ofapproved gun types. We in fact have this same issue with guns in the USA. Shotgun A is legal, but saw off the barrel and it is not longer legal. In game terms, they want to make using sliced weapons have some risk, so they called them illegal.