Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
Valion310
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:45 pm
#560
That part highlighted in red sums up excatly how I feel.
RSQViper wrote:
TH and all devs,
I dont really stick my nose into posts like these usually, but I want to let you know I am on a fence as to how I feel about this announcement.
Good Things That Can Come From It:
- Combat Balance and GCW is excellent for almost everyone
- Things are actually in balance and griefing is rare
- People are in space and on the ground relatively bug-free
- Professions are fun again
Bad Things That Can Come From It:
- The Combat Balance and GCW get pushed again and again
- Bugs are not worked out because there is another rush for the next publish
- Balance is still an issue after the balance
- My friends are gone because of the (long) wait
- Smuggler gets pushed to the end
- The fixes before the CB and GCW and JTL are few and do not really fix anything
I see more bad than good right now if you, as a team, are not very careful. You must work quickly and effectively or you will lose a lot of people. JTL has to go off without a hitch since all of this is delayed or there will be serious hell to pay, I'm afraid. I just really hope you know what you're doing because this game can really be great and right now it just isn't. With competition knocking on your door, I hope it can be answered because I am not finished living the greatest story ever told, but I need a system that can handle it. Yours.
Higi
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:46 pm
#561
I would like to add my 2 cents to this topic.
STUPID STUPID STUPID
This is the stupidiest decision SOE has made yet. You do realize there are a few other online games that are going to be released long before you finally fix what is wrong with this game. You are going to lose more players and thus more money because of this decision then you are going to my from JTL.
If you cared about your current PAYING CUSTOMERS
you would push back JTL until after the long promised combat rebalance and GCWare fixed.
You don't honestly expect us to believe you are going to deliver JTL on time and without bugs.
HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!
You will be fixing JTL for months. Why do I say this, well you have been fixing this game for over a year now and still haven't completed the patches, fixed, and revamps.
Don't expect me to rush out and buy JTL which will be just another pieceof broken and incomplete software.
Vintirizex
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:48 pm
#562
"Publish 10 will be the Jedi Trials.This will be the new gateway to the Jedi profession that will by a mysterious path to unlocking Force sensitivity."
Well there it is Im officially cancelling my three accounts. BRAVO YOU **edit**S! you "revamp" the system and we end up with the same tired **edit**ing bull**edit**.
I MIGHT come back WHEN (not if) the system to unlock is scoped and posted if I'm not too much into another game at that point.
Buh bye.
Otesa
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:49 pm
#563
The only thing that will save my account (and many others) from cancelation:
TH saying:
Ok, we screwed up, we didnt mean to mess with all of you, so here are a few changes:
Publish 10 has been canceled, all unlockings after pub 9 will be allowed to create their jedi now. No more force slot unlockings. Pub 10 will be the combat revamp, the GCW revamp will still be after JTL (i can handle that). After JTL, there will be a patch/publish for JTL, the next one will be smuggler and squad leader revamp. Jedi TEF has been reintroduced.
I wish this was more than a dream, if not:
Goodbye everyone, had a great time, till greed screwed it up, see you all somewhere else.
/cancelaccount;
For anyone staying, here is a macro for anytime you see a dev/csr/SOE employee:
/slap;
/tsktsk;
/say Dont mess with your customers.;
TH saying:
Ok, we screwed up, we didnt mean to mess with all of you, so here are a few changes:
Publish 10 has been canceled, all unlockings after pub 9 will be allowed to create their jedi now. No more force slot unlockings. Pub 10 will be the combat revamp, the GCW revamp will still be after JTL (i can handle that). After JTL, there will be a patch/publish for JTL, the next one will be smuggler and squad leader revamp. Jedi TEF has been reintroduced.
I wish this was more than a dream, if not:
Goodbye everyone, had a great time, till greed screwed it up, see you all somewhere else.
/cancelaccount;
For anyone staying, here is a macro for anytime you see a dev/csr/SOE employee:
/slap;
/tsktsk;
/say Dont mess with your customers.;
Munter
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:50 pm
#564
JTLS ?? Will not buy JTLS until the Combat balance and the GCW has been fixed.If EQ2 or WoW turns out to be better run then SWG I will quit SWG ... sorry 
But there are enough Space Action Shooters out which I could play.Ground combat is much more exiting for me. JTLS does not exite me at all. 
But there are enough Space Action Shooters out which I could play.Ground combat is much more exiting for me. JTLS does not exite me at all.
BubbaPhat99
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:52 pm
#566
HIRE MORE PEOPLE!!!!!
WE ARE PAYING A MONTHLY FEE TO PAY SWG!!
This is unacceptable. SOE will never get another dime from me.
I'm done with this game
boucher6
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:53 pm
#567
Squad leader is the one profession in this game that has not recieved one fix... or has even been mentioned in the patch notes...
I am trying very hard to contain myself from yelling at you (even though I know you are not really to blame)....
This is outrageous that you have delayed the Squad leader vamp yet again....
Squad leader is one of the most important things you guys should focus on...
Before all the squad leaders in game just simply quit the game beacuse of the lack of attention we get....
Sorry to have to post this TH
But you guys screwed up big on this one
We need those who have been denied everything to atleast get changed a little?
I will unfortunitly not be around to see JTL or any of these new revamps beacuse I was going to play by ear how the patch 10-11 sl revamp would be... Now that this is to far away and probably will be ignored for much longer Me and the other thousand squad leaders are in tears over the respect you have not given us...
Kharn_JB
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:58 pm
#568
Gee look at all the pissed off players, including me, and cancelled accounts...
Maybe, just maybe SOE will finally get a clue...
Message Edited by Kharn_JB on 07-15-2004 10:02 PM
Vintirizex
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:01 pm
#569
I take it back TH I apologize, you were quoted out of context on the Jedi boards. I LOVE you for making it a known path with mysterious qualities. Unxling my accounts as I type this 
JamesBond007
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:05 pm
#570
My subscription runs out next month, looks like I won't be renewing it. No use, no combat rebalance and I could care less about jedi. JTL is just a mini game in space what a joke. Why add new races when the current ones don't have any real attritubutes that differ from a human?
dracotrooper
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:08 pm
#571
Can someone tip off Lucasarts to fire the whole SOE dev staff and get people in to develop the game Star Wars? Not Jedi Wars or Smugglers get a fix Wars, or Squad Leader tweak Wars but Star Wars? Screw the Jedi there I said it, there's 3 on screen at the most in any of the movies when this game takes place yet you are focusing on bringing out 100's+? Add content and more content to use the whole dam back story of SW. Not one little pissant geo cave or a death watch bunker on one planet. And content does not equal jack the HAM of a mob up to where it takes a hour to dent it and mulitple them by 100 into a dungeon. Lack of content equals lack of development foresight. This game just takes everything SW and dumps it into a blender and whatever comes out is the game. Swoop tracks isn't content, it's a 5 minute diversion that like most cities will be empty after the initial walkthrough.
jefmes
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:11 pm
#572
With all due respect, why release a expansion pack before fixing problems already existing within the game?
I would start with "With all due respect", but you used it =P, soin short and with respect, this isn't "just an expansion". This is Space. Space is something that everyone wanted at launch and Space is needed to create the Star Wars experience.
The other side of that is that JTL has been in production since January. We can't delaysix and half months of work for something that really makes Star Wars what it is.
And to that I say, "With all due respect" TH, that it sounds to me like JTL and space is part of that core package we should have been purchasing off the shelf with the rest of the game. From my point of view it feels like JTL is finally bringing SWG full circle, and we're not REALLY seeing the full game until it's integrated. Once JTL is in, THEN we're going back and fixing the rest of the core problems with the game. It seems very backwards to me, and I know it wouldn't ever happen, but it makes me feel like JTL should be a FREE add-on, not something we have to pay in addition to what was already purchased.
I understand the reality of the situation though, and it really is a new game - but look at the order things are getting "fixed" and added, and it feels like we'll be finally finishing "beta 4" once JTL hits, and then we get the full force of the dev team back to address all the issues. I'm sticking aroundof course, SWG is my baby too 
But do you understand my feelings on the matter...?
But do you understand my feelings on the matter...?Message Edited by jefmes on 07-15-2004 07:13 PM