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This is a thread I started about Faction specific professions. It would nerf the existing tef system.

Read the excerpt below or check out the whole thread.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=256373

SidGi3 a.k.a Wartobeck, Kettemoor Server

I'm not delcared in a faction or done any pvp and I'm not sure this belongs herebut these aresome ofmy thoughts:

1) If you attack someone who is overt in a city and you do not expect his fellow faction memebers to aid him you are foolish, it's war.

2) If an overt rebel shuttles into an imperial city they should expect and should be attacked by the security force there and the oppisite applies aswell. I've seen an overt rebel sitting across the room from a group of Storm Troopers and everything is just peach keen.

3) It'd be nice for overt faction members to see covert members of the same faction so they have an idea of the company they're in. In the movies the imperials didnt realize that Luke and Han were being covert when they're trying to get back to the Falcon, but you dont think a fellow rebel wouldnt know who they are?

4) If you're not affliated with a faction and someone attacks your overt rebel buddy you should be able to have the option of aiding him instead of standing there and watching him die. You aid him and gain a Temporary Enemy Flagto imperials. You gain some faction points so if you're constantly aidinga factionyou become affilated

5) Someone mentioned earlier that commandos be for hire, I think this is a fabulous idea. When they choose a side they get a Temporary Enemy Flag and join into the frey.

6) If there isa group of covert/overt/neutral people they should each be treated as such. If the rebels in the group decide to attack some imperials the imperials in the group should be given the option to whether or not they want to aid their allies or remain in hiding, while the neutrals should be given the option of which side to choose, if any.

7) Player bounties.

I have more ideas but it's time for me to leave work so this is it for now. I think my ideas will add a better sense of sides and urgency, while allowing unfactioned people to get a little taste.

-Gallahad

Master Marksman, Novice Rifleman

Player bounties would amount to little more than constant harrassment and griefing, e.g. "don't make me report you to my master BH friend" (I've dealt with somebody who actually made that exact threat, assuming a low-level char in Mos Eisley = newbie player).

Does anyone on the DEV team read this or take it into account when making decisions? Just wondering.

OMG I'M BACK ON SWG!

add recruiters so that going overt doesnt require shuttle trips during the battle

As many have already pointed out Group TEF flags are currently abused. I think healing or buffing an overt member of your faction should get you a TEF flag. I would like to see neutral players be able to get involved by getting a flag if they attempt to help on side or another. Currently Neutrals are not allowed to assist either side, might be interesting to allow them to swap back and forth.

Eilici
Master Swordsmen/Master Doctor
Skulls and Bones
Tarquinas

"We seem to be made to suffer. It's our lot in life."

My thoughts about TEFs:

1st off, how are members of same faction supposed to know if others are Declared? As an Imperial (mostly covert unless mood takes me!) I'm able to spot an Overt Rebel no problem, I see the symbol when targeted the particular player. However, I can't tell if a fellow imperial is Overt/TEF'd so, I'm in a med center healing people and all of a sudden a (VERY LAME I MIGHT ADD) Overt Rebel will sneak in and kill me (did I mention that this is lame, very sad and also lame, these ARE NOT skilled PvP kills they are, as I have mentioned maybe once or twice, VERY GODDAM LAME!!!!!!) I think we should at least get a system message warning us that we've been given a TEF, or possibly a dialog box telling us player is Overt/TEF'd and then giving the option (just once) to go ahead and heal them anyway. Possible a check box in settings to not warn you (like item deletion). Same should apply with the trading system.

Next: Should in any circumstance players get a TEF off an overt player then we should have the same rights to an early waring system (red dots on radar) as an Overt member would. Good chance that most TEF'd players aren't actually aware that they have been TEF'd, Being in a group for example. I found out about GTEF the hard way. Once again a LAME ASS Rebel killed me at Bazaar Terminals whilst I was browsing, cant see group, therefore can't see I'm TEF'd (This goes back to a System Message warning you that you have been TEF'd)

I think overall an option to go ahead with trade/heal should be presented should it be an Overt member (of same faction) In actual fact hows about getting some sort of TRAITOR TEF? (This one has just popped in my mind whilst typing this!!) EXAMPLE: An Imperial trades with an Overt Rebel to make that BIG sale, he gets a TEF that alerts other Imperials he's a traitor and leaves them open to attackes by Overt Imperials would be interesting! A few hundred faction points being removed too

In short I'm saying keep TEFs but let us know we are getting them! Oh and a Timer on our flag would be nice also (as I've seen mentioned a few times)

One of the problems is that they should already have this "handbook" and ask us to comment on it. Not ask us to write the handbook, lol.

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Arsenal
The little green Napoleon
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"Player bounties would amount to little more than constant harrassment and griefing, e.g. "don't make me report you to my master BH friend" (I've dealt with somebody who actually made that exact threat, assuming a low-level char in Mos Eisley = newbie player)."

Good point, how about player bounties on only high ranking members of factions?

-Gallahad

Master Marksman, Novice Rifleman

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Guys, TH made this post in June. He's not listening anymore.....

Sign off,
Dracass The'Heartless

Bring the No-TEF concepts of JTL down to GCW.

I'm recommending Jeff Freeman for GCW lead, he's doing a good job in consideration of what-ifs different playstyles and accommodating the non-pvp folks that want a PVE GCW.