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Thread: Publish 10 ... holocredit for unlockers.

Frankin
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:33 am
#521

10 is live , the servers are not up yet though , but its listed in the in live boards an the patch notes .


But yes the porportional credit has yet to be known . Is G saying that we will know soon an it will be fair a code for we are stalling an you will figure it out once live? LoL



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SirLithium
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:44 am
#522


Frankin wrote:
10 is live , the servers are not up yet though , but its listed in the in live boards an the patch notes .
But yes the porportional credit has yet to be known . Is G saying that we will know soon an it will be fair a code for we are stalling an you will figure it out once live? LoL



Read through this thread, and the TC2: Corbantis thread. There are a number of hologrinders that didn't make it to unlock, and they've posted their Partial Credit amounts on these boards. It seems that if you didn't open your Silent Holocron but you mastered 1-3 Holocron Professions, then you get credit for 1 or 2 trees. If you opened your silent, you get more credit. People that opened their Silents and mastered 27-28 professions were getting 5 trees and the XP credit to master those trees.



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Neintara
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:22 am
#523

lol.... /sigh i just spent 4 hours reading thou all these pages to see if they actully said what the credit was for the didnt unlock but master'd a #$% load of prof's only to see that they never did /sigh *rubs eyes and crawls into bed, and has nightmares of gary bucci being the old man*
Lopaka79
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:15 pm
#524

Many people are saying they want comp for what they've done and so forth... I say give it to them.. The whole debate about if credit should be given towards holo professions vs professions mastered is easy to decide on... Why would i further someone who just did 4 hologrinds vs someone who has done more than half of the exsisting professions more credit? Im sure im not the only one who does it (radial command (examine)"hmm only 6 professions? still learning how to play maybe?"... "geez 29professions? he must be rich and has a jedi already". I'd like to see the right thing done for the people who have explored more into the game and look as if they wanted to be a jedi and worked for it.



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Vodo-Kai
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:32 pm
#525






Lopaka79 wrote:

Many people are saying they want comp for what they've done and so forth... I say give it to them.. The whole debate about if credit should be given towards holo professions vs professions mastered is easy to decide on... Why would i further someone who just did 4 hologrinds vs someone who has done more than half of the exsisting professions more credit? Im sure im not the only one who does it (radial command (examine)"hmm only 6 professions? still learning how to play maybe?"... "geez 29professions? he must be rich and has a jedi already". I'd like to see the right thing done for the people who have explored more into the game and look as if they wanted to be a jedi and worked for it.






That's so true. I get tells all the time from people asking me about my Jedi. I have to tell them that I don't have one yet. They're always in shock and say, "OMG, well you should have one."



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OlisJ
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:49 pm
#526






Zsenyka wrote:

"This is just my opinion on the matter, anyone who unlocked post pub 9, should get second slot and FS main."


I can agree with that to a certain point because if people will be 'forced' to make their main char a Jedi in order to get the second slotwould only ruin their gamepley. I shall tell you why: i'm sure not i'm the only one who worked out a nice template to play with so by forcing us to ruin this template to gain the second slot and after that regrind the original template (either on the second slot or on the main - obviously on the second cause who wants to do the whole FS and Jedi stuff on the second char when you already have it on your main) wouldutterly beyond reason.







I'm sorry this ishard to do in new system (for Developpers). The problem is that both character slots can be FS potentially. So if the new system lets you choose to create an FS character on second slot and the main still can be FS (with less effort). This is unbalanced so don't even think SOEwill be making it like that.


The neccessity to unlearn mundane skills and learn FS skills is part of the system and the way of becomming a jedi. So don't complain about that. If you get your jedi you get what you wanted.


The neccessity to work again on second slot and remake its template is the price you need to pay for getting FS skills. No one tells you when you need to unlearn your skills on main character no one tells you when you need to remake your template on second slot. It's all up to you.


I don't see a problem here as I ground to get unlocked in P9on my main (28 professions), I mastered just for help me in the game play (5 professions) on my second account.


I also mastered 10+professions on other servers with myboth accountssuch as Medic, Doctor, Musician, Teras Kasi Artist, Artisan, etc. I did master some of these professions on TestCenter just to be able to test new changes.


So I think there is absolutely no reason on complaining about that. All mundane templates can be made in 1-2 moths even for casual players without strong grinding.





Back to topic about the Hologrind rewards I want to ask SOE to post in forums the detailed info prior to pushing P10 to live servers. This is neccessary.



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Vodo-Kai
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:04 pm
#527

Well, it looks like it's based on "holo" professions. But, doing more professions will grant you better selection of skills you can unlock right away instead of waiting for weeks to get the branch you want. So, over all I think they did something that I had not even thought of. I think they did a pretty good job. Now, where is that old man...





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MajorXP
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:08 pm
#528






JustG wrote:





cbill3 wrote:


I like the idea of what you are doing Devs, just wish something would come out officalliy for those peeps that haven't unlocked yet on thier silent holo prof. I can't ask for to much, so this is good. If a DEV can respond and let us know, that's be great.


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We will come out with more info, and it will be fair.


But why not stop the grind right now? Just play! You are going to make it soon enough anyway, and the village is very fun!






I'm not quite sure this was good advice given the process outlined by TH. I would have advised to grind out as much as possible so you dont get stuck in the line.









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Ebaq9
Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:51 pm
#529

So what happened to this? Did you change it up yet again? Definition of integrity is do as you say and say as you do. <Simplified version> Can we get a little integrity out of you all or is there an additionalcharge for something we should be able to expect?




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Cafa
Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:07 pm
#530






JustG wrote:





cbill3 wrote:


I like the idea of what you are doing Devs, just wish something would come out officalliy for those peeps that haven't unlocked yet on thier silent holo prof. I can't ask for to much, so this is good. If a DEV can respond and let us know, that's be great.


Peace to the Rebellion and to the Empire...nay, kill the Empire







We will come out with more info, and it will be fair.


But why not stop the grind right now? Just play! You are going to make it soon enough anyway, and the village is very fun!







In retrospective answer to your questiion, JustG.


Obviously you rewarded the people that ruined the economies, ruined the balances of power, and quite frankly ruined most of my early SWG friends' experiences as they are almost all gone now.


So yet again you reward people who just acted like trained puppies instead of those people that work within the game to develop communities and infrastructure to support playerbases. Amazing.


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ArkonPhoenix
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:25 pm
#531

If we are to keep it fair, then anyone who has an active account for longer than 6 months should get there 2nd slot unlocked with Pub 10.


Thats just my opinion though.




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