Development Cycle Archive

Thread: New Team Comments

Shynns
Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:52 am
#40

From everything i see on the boards, it's just smoke and mirrows. You ask for info on how to make smuggler's. How many month of this Smuggler's fourm information do you need. When SWG launched it was stated that smuggler's were not finished, and we still wait. Instead of finishing the professions that were not done, the dev team twick and adjust the professions that were finished at launch. Than before finishing all the professions you were about adding town, mount, and badges.


Let's just ask it plain and simple. Are there any real plans to have the Smuggler Profession finished before Space get's added to SWG. If the Dev team want to be REALLY HONEST with us they would give us some real answers and time frame. If you'd give us honest answer about our profession we could either do other things on other server's or even play other game's till your ready for us



GIVE US A REAL ANSWER NOT JUST SMOKE AND MIRROR'S ARE WE GOING TO BE FINISHED BEFORE OR AFTER SPACE GET'S ADDED

Vashner
Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:53 am
#41

Thank you Shug and rest of the staff. And have a happy New Year!







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mlucas
Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:54 am
#42

A nice littlke post that was great for players that done play but for thoose of us that do we know that most of what you added is still broke including issues from beta



Dungoon have huge bugs


Quest's are still broken


GCW is simply not even intresting in the game


/GCW featurre does not work


Most of the added items you listed while being released is good have huge bugs on top of isses that were still severe prior to old issues.


Hopefully the quality of the patches in the upcoming year will increase as to be honest they cant be much worse and still work at all . The biggest issues youall need to address in IMHO in internal testing there are simply way to many bugs hitting live servers for this game to be retail the lack of QU makes it more like a late stage beta version and not retail.

Jazerai
Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:18 am
#43

To whichever Sony employee ends up reading this string...


I've spent alot of time on the forums reading and have rarely posted. Much of the time, i've been herelearning about ways people have found to get around the bugs. Or worse yet, I'm here reading which classes are bugged and how badly (Smuggler semed so cool...), soI know if I should even bothertrying them. Just about every time, someone has already written about whatever new bug is annoying me that day so I have no need to post it. Actually, by the time I come across the bug, there is usually a string a few pages long about it somewhere.


Now I find myself playinga game whereIchose classes, thatI don't want to try as much as others, because they're the only ones thatwork right. I spend as much time on the forumslookingfor bug solutionsas playing. I'm starting toavoidloging into avoidgetting frustrated. (Having that bike gradually fall apart beneath me for no reason on a planet with no garages,then vanishingso I have to destroy it further to get it back really bites. And this is one of thesmallest of the problems. I only mentionitbecause it happened five times today...)


This is coming from someone who spent two years obsessively playing a crappy, buggy flight sim that hardly anyone else even heard of.The gamewas horribly designed and never updated. But it was incredibly fun. So I always went back. Iplayed that game enough tobecome one of the top ranked in the world. (Like I said, hardly anyone else ever even heard of the game, so take that for what it's worth)


Point is...Ikept goingback.Everytime the screen locked, or the controls went out, or an opponentwarped 500m behind me and shot me to pieces, I went back. Logout, login. No problem. It was still fun.I stillgot off the ground andthe guns still fired. All of the planes and weapons were functional.All of the core systems worked so itwas worth enduring the problems. But I'mlearningevena die-hard gaming geek canhave limits.


I'm starting to find myself not going backto this game. When that'final straw' bugpops up, Ilog and walk away. It used to be for a few minutes, then a few hours. Now it's the next day before Itry again.I haven't quit yet because of the potential (Smuggler still sounds cool) and this game has so much of it. But Idon't think I willbe for much longer if things don't change. It's not even anger talking, just a gradual loss ofinterest. You have to fight the game to play it. I'm sure there are games out there where you don't.


Want to give us a Holiday gift? Try it. Have everyone who works on this game, come down toWanderhome and play it with us. See what it's like.We'll get all the big PvPers and solos. Call out the AT-ST's,the big pets and therocket launchersand we'll go on a huge hunt, then blast the crap out of each other. Sounds fun, huh?


The sad realityis we'd just lagwarp across the screen repeatedly, fire weapons that don'tdo much ofwhat they're supposed to, at targets whoareno longer thereand injure ourselves with our own actionsto the point that a wandering chuba incaps us all. We could all laugh, when we wake up,as the AT-ST's pilots decide that watching their commanders geteaten by the wildlife is a better idea than defending them. We couldsnicker atthe bounty hunter investigatorswhile they run around in circles trying to find people 250m away.Or place bets on how many dozen swings it takes the pikemen to kill a meatlump. Maybe we could make a bonfirewithour burningvehicles and listen to the tune of the repetative, skipping, off-time entertainer's music. The novice artisans could take turns beating the tar out of the master sharpshooters, after the only shot they get off with theirfearsome T21's before melee range, misses.


I could go on but there's no need. After reading that much, I probably wouldn't take us up on the invitation either...


Please fix it. Fix it all. Get the core systems working, then add thereally coolstuff. We appreciate the news ofinteresting new additions, but they're starting to become pep talks to stay rather than something great to look forward to.


Enough said, Happy Holidays all.



Colonel Jazerai'Rix - Alliance Army


Wanderhome

twosweeeeeeeeet
Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:10 am
#44

Hayden Blackman wrote:



We are going to continue to give love and attention to all of the professions. Those at the top of our list include all of the core combat professions, Chef, Droid Engineer, Merchant, Squad Leader, and Smuggler. At least one of these is a leading candidate for a publish theme...




What about BH we are the weakest of the professions now, **edit** a smuggler could kick my butt if he had some TKA exp with pistol or carbin exp to



Hello....use the force and fix what's wrong before you do something new




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vovchancyn
Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:21 am
#45

what can i say that hasnt already been stated? well not much. FIX the game. FIX the game. FIX the game.


Im just not impressed with a vague description of things to come. I can understand why you have chosen this course of action. If I were in charge of developing this game, i wouldn't admit to any of the problemseither. I wouldn't address players with specific answers to thier questions. I would not commit myself (nor my staff) to working retro-actively in regards to fixing the many bugs that have plagued this game.


I can totally empathize with you and the current situation.


now that i've said that....where do I send my resume?




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Eminemrapman101
Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:47 am
#46

I really start to wonder if this is NEW content or stuff that was supposed to be in game when it was released that they didnt put in it to meet the budget



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Jokuzui
Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:17 am
#47


HOW MUCH POT DO YOU SMOKE A DAY?


FIX STUFF BEFORE ADDING MORE CRAP ONTOP OF BROKEN CODE! IS IT REALLY THAT HARD OF A THING TO GET THROUGH UR **edit** HEAD? I LEARNED THAT THE FIRST DAY OFMY PROGRAMMING CLASS.


Tons of your quests are broken. Professions are broken despite your claim of "continue[ing] to give love and attention to all of the professions" Take pistoleer for instance...I have no clue what "disarming shot" does, it doesn't even tell me, let alone "disarming shot 2". "Multi-target pistol shot" LITERALLY does nothing but take off action. "Fanshot", which is supposed to hit ONE target, hits multiple targets. YOU CAN'T SHOOT THROUGH ROCKS BUT YOU CAN SHOOT THROUGH THE GROUND, am i the only one that gets angry at that?! BECAUSE ITS PRETTY DUMB THAT U CAN'T SHOOT THROUGH TEENY ROCKS BUT YET HUGE MOUNDS OF DIRT. The droid engineer is totally useless, aside to crafters and probots make OK tanks at best when built on a MASTER lvl. I MEAN ITS NOT LIKE DROIDS WERE A HUGE PART OF STARWARS OR ANYTHING. The game is more **edit** that starwars with CH and the design, not that i care because I like **edit** but this is starwars. Have you tried to survive w/o a pet?! Its pretty **edit** hard if you live on a rough planet. Im not even talking about crap design here though, like shooting 4x4' bases instead of a large scale base that would actually be fun...or actually feel like like u are part of the galactic civil war instead of random pve spawns or 'quake' style pvp where ppl camp the recruiters. IM TALKING ABOUT BROKEN CODE, BROKEN QUESTS, BROKEN PROFESSIONS, BROKEN COMBAT SYSTEMS AND THE COUNTLESS BUGS U ADD WITH EACH PATCH. HAVEN'T U LEARNED SINCE U WERE A CHILD, IF U HAVE NO CLUE WHATIS CAUSE A PROBLEMSSSSTTTOOOPP! AND FIGURE IT OUT!


Christ, i want to punch you in the face ( not literally, but to get my point across ) sometimes, mr producer. You have a phenominal engine that you are putting to waste! HIRE ME, I KNOW I COULD DO A BETTER JOB! And i mean that 100%, cuz who ever is in charge of this is either 1-NOT A GAMER 2-MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MONEY AND CORPORATE INTEREST THAN QUALITY OF GAME OR 3- A COMPLETE IDIOT IN A MANAGEMENT POSITION!


I could write tons more, but you already have tons of posts to read. Just wanted to get my NEGATIVE point across so maybe you could CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE DOING and fix things and maybe tweak what you ALREADY HAVE to make the game MORE ENJOYABLE, instead of ADDING TONS OF CRAP to stuff that IS ALREADY MESSED UP. before i GET SO ANGRY I STOP PLAYING THIS GAME AND TAKE ALL OF MY FRIENDS WITH ME. btw the holo thing is totally lame and your excuse of ther 'not being many jedi' in this time period is so bullcrap...i mean how many zabrak were on tatooine at this point, I DIDN'T SEE ONE TILL EP 1, thats amazing huh? Therse tons of things that don't hold true to the movies, and **edit** if u weren't gonna use holo's as some sort of scheme to get ppl to play, you know EVERYONE IS GOING TO WANT TO BE A JEDI. So why not make it take place earlier in starwars history? Oh yeah, cuz you wanted to do this lame NOT FUN scheme of holocrons. Im sorry but the real quest for absolute power doesn't come from following ur holocron...it comes from stickign to whatever idea u had for a character to start with, not to some dip developer that thinks u shoudl waster ur **edit** time doing stupid crap so he can get his paycheck. Theres cooler things u can do to make the game take up more time or be enjoyable. TONS OF THEM. **edit**, EMAIL ME AND I'LL TELL U TONS OF IDEAS.


i am sorry, i know u get tons of crap...like you need more. but this game is amazing and you're Ef'ingit up with crap management.


-joku

Rounlin
Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:10 am
#48

thanks Shug
teamdoa
Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:27 am
#49

What I want to know is how the helldo all these bugs find there way into the game when they have people testingthe contentfor them forFREE on a test server.



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mrrpmnick
Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:29 am
#50

Yup, gotta fix the bugs. But why stop and wait , press on with new content. The devs can do both, new content is gonna have bugs too.. SO WHAT???? This is not some little game, its larger or as large as life. Im not a master anything, and i can solo any creature or lair or npc or anything in the game. Its called tactics. Ever hear of it?? You want to stop head with a group, you can. You want to solo something, you can.. It gives you freedom.. Oh and why grind for anything? JUST PLAY! Bugs will get fixed, new content will be added with new bugs and all, the game will press on.


If you cannot laugh at the bugs in the game your taking it too seriously. I traveled 10k meters to earn 50 credits and the second half of the mission doesnt work.. Oh no, time to quit. BIG STINKIN DEAL! Its the same as if you play chess and one of the pieces is missing. If you LIKE to play, youll get through the game.


Keep up the good work devs, yall have the best game out there....


mrrpmnick


Corbantis


Master of nothing yet!


Self proclaimed uber nerfer

Drakforge
Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:40 am
#51

Last patch is still broken.


1. number of vehicle issues (example: auto storing still and weak hull strength)


2.Creature handler profession was messed up and they new tree abilities specail 1, 2 and ranged do not work (ranged sometimes, specails only when the creature does it on its own.. no control using the command.. in other words ..it is broken.)


3. My mask sent at master scout seems to be broken 80% of the time now on dathomir.. pre patch i wasnt master and it hardly broke at all.


4.Loot... still bites.


5. Badges.. now its grand you added more, although i have 20 something now and it fills the screen with almost unreadable scribble (when i /examine myself... no! not like your thinking! in game fools!)


THere are many other bugs listed thoughout the forums.. but it isnt my job to bring them to you attention. I /bug in game and tell others to .. thats about all the power we have.


Fix what was done this patch please before the new year..




Been there... Done that..
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tman5219
Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:24 am
#52

  • Oh, and we're working on some changes to the Jedi system and more Jedi-specific content too...


  • Ah. Suffer the nerfs, ye of Jedi born . . .




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