Development Cycle Archive

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Xader_Vartec wrote:

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Naufragus wrote:

Loot will not kill crafting. Looted items will wear out just like everthing else.

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If the loot is an end product that is just as good or better than what a crafter can make then you are wrong. It will kill crafting.

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Then how do you explain UO? Loot that was superior to crafted items, yet Vendors all over the place selling.. crafted items AND loot.

Raph should be able to give some decent UO Loot/SWG Loot comparisons from the Dev perspectivehaving been involved with both. I'd be interested to read how he would compare the two.

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Rela wrote:

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Xader_Vartec wrote:

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Naufragus wrote:

Loot will not kill crafting. Looted items will wear out just like everthing else.

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If the loot is an end product that is just as good or better than what a crafter can make then you are wrong. It will kill crafting.

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Then how do you explain UO? Loot that was superior to crafted items, yet Vendors all over the place selling.. crafted items AND loot.

Raph should be able to give some decent UO Loot/SWG Loot comparisons from the Dev perspectivehaving been involved with both. I'd be interested to read how he would compare the two.

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WHAT?

Raph made UO. Raph is the one that decided that uber loot wouldn't be in SWG.

So......you think Raph just ignored what he learned in UO and decided to piss of players by not having uber loot?

I think it is obvious that Raph had reasons for there not being uber loot. Raph as stated in the past that (at least) one reason for this was that it conflicted with crafters.

So.........your saying that Raph didn't know what he was talking about?

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Sogan wrote:

Destroy Missions from Coronet on Chilastra are not paying nor disappearing from your data pad upon completion.

When zoning into a raining atmosphere, rain is frozen in your immediate vicinity.

Corjo - Chilastra

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Georb79 wrote:

Guys if you have a question about proffessions go to there forum threads. Yes This month is Chef revamp and some DE additions and changes.

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Are you just making stuff up?

There is NO INFORMATION THERE!!!

For example: this is one of the latest posts in the DE forum by the correspondent:

I can neither confirm nor deny any allegations of sm... Oh, sorry wrong question.

Its been fairly quite on the DEV front today. I know that there was a meetingtoday to go over some things, but thats about all I know. Publish 6 should be on its way tomorrow. There are at least5 items related to DE that will be going in on this publish, but they might not be the be all to end all that everyone is hoping for. The first and foremost concern that Sintrosi, and now I, pushed forare bug fixes.

As for the Droid Invasion info, I really can't say much at this time. Take that statement as you will, it is purposefully meant to be vague, but at least its an update.

This post is just shy of useless. It's obvious that even if the Devs ARE giving the correspondents information they are explicitely telling them to keep their mouths shut.

It has become obvious that there is a concerded(sp) effort to shut down communication to the player via the boards.

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Georb79 wrote:

Guys if you have a question about proffessions go to there forum threads. Yes This month is Chef revamp and some DE additions and changes. Also we are going to be expecting Combat phase 2 implementation. I dont know what this is going to be yet. People are egerly waiting on test center for this info. Their were a few snags in the update for test center soo they are hammering them out. As we speak. You have to remember they have a internal server and everything must test out ok there first before release onto any server including test center. Be Patiant. It is comming with in the next week. Let them hammer out there problems internally and wait until TC update.

If you guys really wana help create a character on TC and help them out hammering out more bugs when this update goes there. It will prevent silly bugs from arising. So stop asking for a hand out and help yourselves by joining the test center and hammering your bugs out. Yes I know you pay to test stuff out. But would you rather this make it to live and then whine all day about it?

BTW SOE guys here is a idea. If people are complaining about playing and paying for beta whynot offer playing time on the test Center for free every monthTherefore you can get what you want (Increase in TC server population) and people can get what they want to beta test for free.

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many of the profession forums are basically 4-5 people discussing topics of no interest to anyone but themselves

and the test center people are just creepy.

i dont need to test the game any more, i beta'd.. i dont have tiome to waste grinding on a FAKE server

and from what we have seen reporting bugs and problems on test center works just as well as posting them here.

Test center is a just a little cliche of the type of people i generally try and avoid. the only thing i want to do there is get elected mayor and destroy their towns..

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Xader_Vartec wrote:

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Georb79 wrote:

DE needs help, soo they have dedicated 2 publishes to DE. Some of the next publish and almost all of the next. So dont complain until we see what they have done. After that you can say what ever you want because it has been released. Until then ask for there idea.

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And if they're ideas are terrible and actually HURT the DEs or the players hate the new changes?

We aren't supposed to get involved intil AFTER they have been published to live?

I'm sorry. But if you believe this then you do not believe that the players opinion hold any value because if the players opinions to changes DO hold value they need to be heard BEFORE changes are put to production NOT AFTER.

The communication is the reason A LOT of players have stayed with this game as long as they have. Communication was GREAT during Beta and shortly after release. Even with the problems the good communication gave many confidence and hope that the devs cared about the game. It has gotten steadly worse to the point of non-exsistant.

You seem to think this is ok. That's fine. I guess you don't need it. But without a good product, many of the players that have stayed are going to just give up and leave. Don't believe me? Look around you.

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Let me ask you this. If you were leading your army into battle. Would you ask your troops what they thought of your plan or would you ask your Generals what they though. If you did decided to ask all your soldiers, then you would be listening to 100's of thousands of people at once. This is why you are suppose to correct you correspondent when he brought up the top five issuse to the DEs. So he can hammer out what you guys want done first.

Simple proccess, if there was a problem in the proccess you should have asked someone or brought it up and the problem would have been addressed, but sinsatri(sp?) did a great job in what he wanted to get done and if you had any faith in him you wouldn't be worried as to what will be comming. Bugs are part of the game but designs are created by everyone. Ifthe design you handed the dev's was flawed then it was your responsibly as a player to address the issuse to your only outlet(Proffession correspondent) and rework it.

Simple Proccess.

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Xader_Vartec wrote:

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Georb79 wrote:

With the release of the next publish will come test Center update notes. You can always read those. What do you wana know? Ask me maybe I know something that can help you out. Please be specific. Also do you belong to a PA or a group of some sort? Do they have any information that might be usefull to you? I am just tired of people complaining we are not babies and dont need to be grouped with them. Simple questions if you want more in depth detail please Post a request on the DE forums asking for a general idea of what is comming. They will not answer really specific questions. Ask for a outline of the upcomming project.

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Ok...you call me a baby...Your a tool.

I've been an AVID supporter of this game since about a month ago when communication basically halted. Check my record.

What part of the DE correspondent won't tell us anything because he has been instructed not to don't you understand? That post I quoted was from yesterday. He said in it that "this is all I can say".

Yes. I am part of a group. I only know 1 DE and he is the ONLY one in the group. So......the group is supposed to know about these changes how?

You can argue that communication is fine all you want. The facts show you are wronge. The subscriber numbers will show you wrong shortly unless something is changed.

The communication at this point is WORSE than it ever was in EQ.

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Georb79 wrote:

Let me ask you this. If you were leading your army into battle. Would you ask your troops what they thought of your plan or would you ask your Generals what they though. If you did decided to ask all your soldiers, then you would be listening to 100's of thousands of people at once. This is why you are suppose to correct you correspondent when he brought up the top five issuse to the DEs. So he can hammer out what you guys want done first.

Simple proccess, if there was a problem in the proccess you should have asked someone or brought it up and the problem would have been addressed, but sinsatri(sp?) did a great job in what he wanted to get done and if you had any faith in him you wouldn't be worried as to what will be comming. Bugs are part of the game but designs are created by everyone. Ifthe design you handed the dev's was flawed then it was your responsibly as a player to address the issuse to your only outlet(Proffession correspondent) and rework it.

Simple Proccess.

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Your still a tool.

This isn't a battle. This is a game. I am paying a subscription price for this game. I and others have a track record for provided positive input into how good or bad changes would affect the game. It is better for the devs by providing them PROACTIVE feedback and it is possitive for the players by providing them a way to shape the game they are playing for.

You don't have very good reading comprehension. I have no problem with the DE (and it's not Sintrosi anymore, BTW) correspondent. My problem is the devs NOT ALLOWING THE CORRESPONDENT TO TELL US WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. Nor the devs asking for our input anymore. Nor the devs telling us where the development of the game is going.

And BTW, how am I supposed to know about these Chef changes? There was no post about it in a forum *I* read. I got lucky and spoted a post here describing it. If I didn't know then one day I would have gone to my chef and asked for my usual and might have been told "Oh....it doesn't work that way anymore......". What part of this is bad communcation don't you understand?

ALL other MMORPGs have at least a communication to tell what the devs are addressing at the moment. As far as I'm concerned they are sitting on their thumbs right now. And their games aren't as buggy. I'm about ready to just go there where at least I know what they are addressing in the comming months.

It is obvious that you do not have a good sense of history behind the communication this game has had in the past. Your history of MMORPG communication is questionable at best. The silence since the beginning of the year AFTER we were told communication would be improved is horrendous.