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Thread: Friday Feature May 28th, 2004 – Jedi Archives Volume III

VladimirDrake
Fri May 28, 2004 3:57 pm
#27

Quick Question about skill box transfers that was a little unclear --->


An existing Jedi who lets say is a Knight would have 36 boxes to choose (Counting novice initiate up to knight). Is that 36 boxes of force discipline skills, after the 24 force sensative skills are chosen? Or will we have to use 24 of the 36 boxes to choose force sensative skills? I guess im a little confused about the two.


Gaenjin
Fri May 28, 2004 3:59 pm
#28






Will my Main slot be FS? Or will I have to redo all the quests if I want him to be Force Enhanced too?

Yes, you're main slot will be force sensitive, but it will be at a Padawan level with all of your original skills intact. You may choose to develop your Main Slot up through Jedi Knight. If you develop this main character up through Jedi Knight, you will have to sacrifice your regular professions. If you want to develop your second slot as your Jedi Knight, you may choose to do all of the Force Sensitive Quests over again thereby unlocking the slot. By completing the Force Sensitive quests you can make your second slot Force Sensitive also. You may even choose to develop your second slot as a full status Jedi knight. You may even choose to develop both of your slots as Jedi if you wish. There are many possible combinations, but because there is a quest based system in place now, your main slot must be the starting point of Jedi character development after Publish 10.





This appears to be an answer to the 2nd part of my question, but I find itis confusing. You said inpart 1 of myquestion that:


If you already have an existing Jedi character, your existing JEDI slot will remain the Jedi slot and your main character will remain as it is. So yes, you may continue to level your main any way you wish.


I may have misworded, so let me correct myself:Current Jedi: Will our Main slot be a Force Sensitive too? ie. will we have Force Sensitives on both slots? It's not as critical as the first part on what slot got Jedi, but still worth wondering if we get a little "reward" for dealing with the old system.


Thanks for including those questions, btw. I've been getting frustrated without knowing what to do over the past few weeks. At least I can get my characters properly prepared without worry of loss of time and credits.


LeJediFou
Fri May 28, 2004 4:02 pm
#29

Will my Main slot be FS? Or will I have to redo all the quests if I want him to be Force Enhanced too?

Yes, you're main slot will be force sensitive, but it will be at a Padawan level with all of your original skills intact. You may choose to develop your Main Slot up through Jedi Knight. If you develop this main character up through Jedi Knight, you will have to sacrifice your regular professions. If you want to develop your second slot as your Jedi Knight, you may choose to do all of the Force Sensitive Quests over again thereby unlocking the slot. By completing the Force Sensitive quests you can make your second slot Force Sensitive also.


I really don't have a problem with the whole article, except for that.

1- "Will my Main slot be FS?" -> Who is asking that question? Someone who already has a Jedi on his 2nd slot or someone who has not yet unlocked his 2nd slot?

2- "Or will I have to redo all the quests if I want him to be Force Enhanced too?" -> REDO ? If he already has his Jedi on his 2nd slot, he has never done them (will be introduced in Publish 10). And if he doesn't have his Jedi yet, his main will have to those quests!

3- "Yes, you're main slot will be force sensitive, but it will be at a Padawan level with all of your original skills intact" -> The way I understood the system is that first you had to do the FS quests, then you should go to the Padawan Trials when you had 24 FS skills. Why would the main slot be a Padawan in any case?

4- "If you want to develop your second slot as your Jedi Knight, you may choose to do all of the Force Sensitive Quests over again thereby unlocking the slot" -> unlocking the slot? If you're working on your 2nd slot character, well... then the 2nd slot is already unlocked.


I hope you can clarify this Thunderheart, because I'm really lost with that question. Everything esle is crystal for me, but this one is too difficult.



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Andriko
Fri May 28, 2004 4:06 pm
#30

What about Searing damage for lightsabers?




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Gaenjin
Fri May 28, 2004 4:11 pm
#31




Thunderheart wrote:





raz1337 wrote:

Ok, I don't know if I read this right


Say a player has an account on live with his 2 slots, a main, and a jedi


When Publish 9 hits live, our Jedi will still be intact, and still be Jedi, while our main will now be force sensitive, and be at a padawan level, without sacrificing our current professions or completing any further quests?





You already have a Jedi, so what happens is you will need to select skill for your new Jedi and thats it.


The FS and padawn stuff is for players who have not yet unlocked their slot.






Confusion comes from uswanting to know only about current Jedi and their slots. Especially since our main slot was what we unlocked with under the old system.


What wewant to know is, what will be the exactstatus be of our main slot? Will it have credit for completing the Force Sensitive Quests? Will it have credit for completing the Padawan Trials? Or will it be just a regular character that has to start the Force Sensitve Quests from scratch?


Jedi is current Jedi slot, I got that much. Question is whether I have to do the Force Sensitve quests on my Main again, or is he ready to take Padawan Trials?


Thunderheart
Fri May 28, 2004 4:15 pm
#32






philip_i wrote:

I think there should be some way to convert your main's race if you make it to jedi, maybe only if you get it by pub 10 or something. Also if we can't do that with our main then how long (game time wise) would it take to create the second slot into a jedi?


Another solution could be to make it where you choose to make your main a jedi and have a reg second char or a jedi second char and set your main back to zero on the jedi quest path.


Any possibility of this in the future?


Thanks




Sorry, but no. What you would have to do is open up your second slot, choose the race you want and go through the quests again...





Ookla_mok wrote:
Will there be a way for those that didn't unlock our FS slots before the publish (or for those of us who didn't grind at all) to find out what our Holo professions were? I am very curious... My first one said Master Dancer, I would like to know what the others were.

Thanks!
-Ooklamok
Valcyn




The script that had that info will be on your character, butgetting that info would not really be feasible. Its a chewing gum thing. If we did it for one person, then we'd have to do it for everyone and then the next thing you know, everyone would want to know...


(I want to know too =P)


I'll try to answer the rest this weeknd. If not, then Monday.


Have a great weekend





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
bugonguitar
Fri May 28, 2004 4:18 pm
#33

What we need is someone official to say one of these things, to alleviate all ambiguity and/or confusion on this point:


When Publish 10 goes live, existing Jedi will have their main characters completely unchanged and their Jedi characters adapted to the new system. Main characters of existing Jedi will have to complete force sensitive quests to become force attuned.


--or--


When Publish 10 goes live, existing Jedi will see their main characters become force attuned, retaining all of their previous professional skills and may advance this character through the Jedi skills from scratch, while their Jedi characters will remain Jedi and advance to a level commensurate with their advancement in the previous system.


We're not begging for two FS characters. We just want to know if that's what we're getting or not. I assumed not, but I certainly won't throw rocks at someone if we do get that.





Caas Masturn, Interplanetary Man of Mystery/Major, Rebel Alliance

"They may cut your --- in half and serve it to a pig,
And though it hurts, you'll laugh, and dance a ----less jig.
But that's the way it goes, in war you're shat upon
Though we die, La (Rebellion) lives on."
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bugonguitar
Fri May 28, 2004 4:20 pm
#34

Crap. Edit's not working. I meant Publish 9. Told you I was not bright.



Caas Masturn, Interplanetary Man of Mystery/Major, Rebel Alliance

"They may cut your --- in half and serve it to a pig,
And though it hurts, you'll laugh, and dance a ----less jig.
But that's the way it goes, in war you're shat upon
Though we die, La (Rebellion) lives on."
--Gregory, South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
Gaenjin
Fri May 28, 2004 4:22 pm
#35




LeJediFou wrote:

1- "Will my Main slot be FS?" -> Who is asking that question? Someone who already has a Jedi on his 2nd slot or someone who has not yet unlocked his 2nd slot?





That was a question I'd asked in a post,a couple days ago. I have a Jedi on 2nd slot. My fault I guess for not wording it more clearly. It was2ndpart toa2-part question, and actually goes with the question right before it in the Article III. At first I got excited,Two FS!!!.... then I read the rest and was like... hmmm...
neelong
Fri May 28, 2004 4:22 pm
#36

TH.. i think you should just look at my character and tell me which one is my secret, I wouldnt tell anyone


On a serious note though, I was confused on one part of this Friday Feature. I do thank you guys for putting this information out and even though its frustrating at time, this is good information. One question I have is.


While it is true that when we added "Master Badges" to the game so that players could display what professions they had mastered, there was no way for us to determine which professions had been previously mastered. Because of this, any professions mastered and also dropped before master badges were in the game, they couldn't be counted, but the Jedi Professions Tracking system is a different game system.

There is a bit of code on each character that tracks the raw number of professions a player has completed and whether or not that specific profession was required to unlock their Jedi slot. In short, yes we do know how many professions each player has completed and whether or not it was required to unlock the player's Jedi slot.


** So you can actually tell how many professions someone has mastered and in the credit ( whatever that credit may be ) phase we will be credited for every profession we have mastered? Or


** You know which professions where mastered that counted toward FS because your system tracked only those professions?


The reason I ask is because I am in asomewhat unique situationto where I didnt have any holo professions, my first holo was silent and had mastered 7 professions when I read it.. I dont know which ones were holo ones. In my case it would be good for me to remaster some of those seven to make sure I get credit for them? Or if they are indeed counted then I wouldnt need to do them.





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Mooko
Fri May 28, 2004 4:22 pm
#37

Will it still take 20 years to unlock if you don't give up your social life and become a grind slave to sony, I don't grind yet i feel i've seen most of seenof what this game has to offer, been playing over a year. Please try and make Jedi more accessable to people. I feel i will never get the chance to play as a Jedi simply because I don't spend my time grinding away the factory production process, or have a 3rd party macro program do it for me.
LeGoLaS_EcHeLoN
Fri May 28, 2004 4:23 pm
#38

I'm confused about the test center 2 thing.... do we have to have a Jedi on Bria to have a Jedi on Test Center 2? My main is on Bria, I tried going to Test Cetner, and he isn't even on there.




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bugonguitar
Fri May 28, 2004 4:29 pm
#39






neelong wrote:

** So you can actually tell how many professions someone has mastered and in the credit ( whatever that credit may be ) phase we will be credited for every profession we have mastered? Or


** You know which professions where mastered that counted toward FS because your system tracked only those professions?



I think what they mean, neelong, was the raw data of "professions mastered" and "fs required professions mastered" is stored in your account information. So, they know both the total number you've mastered and the number you mastered which were required for FS. What they don't know is what any one of those was specifically. So picture mastered professions as entries in a chart. FS requireds are a "1", while simple masteries not required for Jedi are "0". They can tell how many total entries you have in the chart and how many 1's, but beyond that they can't get any other info...or so they say....




Caas Masturn, Interplanetary Man of Mystery/Major, Rebel Alliance

"They may cut your --- in half and serve it to a pig,
And though it hurts, you'll laugh, and dance a ----less jig.
But that's the way it goes, in war you're shat upon
Though we die, La (Rebellion) lives on."
--Gregory, South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
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