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Thread: Stratics House of Commons Chat Thursday March 18 5 PM Pacific

StrayCat1212
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:58 pm
#27


Just to be clear to the player community at large. There are NO NEW DROIDS that are player made that us Droid Engineers can make. The chat that was held is misleading and is false advertising. For more information, contact your local Droid Engineer or visit the Droid Engineer forum.


I repeat, stop asking DE's to build you a blastomech droid, droideka, or any of the cool droids in the picture. They are not player made and you were misled.



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ResourceMonkey
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:09 pm
#28

For the record, I didn't appreciate being /banned from the chat due to the following question submitted:


"So, no new droids for players to use?"


If I shouted it in caps, used profanity, was disrespectfulor spammed it over and over again, I could understand but just that one question was grounds for /banning? I am curious as to how.


For the record, the question was made as people kept asking about new droids and the responses were only about new droid components.




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Haruspex77
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:16 pm
#29

I am really concerned about SOE statements about the Droid Invasion.



In response to a question about new droids in Publish 8 "Runesabre replied: Publish 8 will see the introduction of several new and interesting droid utility modules." and commented about NPC droids.


Is 4 "several" in your book? Moreover the response to those 4 has been underwhelming. I like 2 of them(Exploding and Merchant), but seem to be nearly the only supporter of even those.



In response to a question explicitly about "new player controlled droids" Blair responded : "We rolled out additional combat droids wiht publish 7 that you will see in a few weeks."


Which is at risk of being misleading, since it is clear from TC that he is talking about the NPCs on the Corvette.


While I understand a corporate desire to keep a positive attitude, it is offensive to try to paste a happy face over a wound. It concerns me that, perhaps, recognition of the real situation is being systematically supressed within you office as well as in public. That will make it harder for you to solve your problems.


I would have appreciated a reply along the lines of "We encountered unexpected problems, and were unable to introduce any new droid schematics orreally majorupgrades with the Droid Invasion. We hope that when Publish 8 is out, you will feel like the total is more of an improvement than a nerf. But we are still working on those problems, and the good things will eventually arrive."


The current approach to communication is highly unsatisfactory. I am just a droid fan, not a DE at this time, and I am offended by the way you sound. My existing probots lost most of their value alongwith their armour, and (so far) the replacements I can buy lookthe same and work onlya little better than the old ones. Your communications need to face that reality.



DeptSS
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:23 pm
#30






UntoldGlory wrote:
While I'm very excited that unlocking Jedi will be quest oriented, I must say I'm dissapointed that I'll have to use my same character, unless unlocking Force Sensitivity also grants you enough bonus skill points to Master Jedi. I was looking forward to being able to keep a Master Crafter available, or at least someone who could attend events or walk around without worrying about getting whacked constantly.





[Keldarin] Enabling your Force Sensitive skills will no longer require revoking skills or significantly changing you character.
JTGAlpha
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:39 pm
#31

I really love how what, three questions? were all,


"Are there gonna be new droids?"


"Yes."






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Arnwald
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:42 pm
#32

One word DISINFORMATION :



[17:07] [Haden] Best of all (from my perspective), players will be driven to the Corellian Corvette via story-driven missions. And, it's really HIGH END content...


Well you really had to put this in caps because so far the content is pretty low...


[17:07] [Haden] Now I'll hand it over to Keldarin to talk about the Droid Invasion...


Where is the NPC terms? all players knows it is a Droid NPC invasion, and so far I saw no doid invading all the place I when to...


[17:08] [Keldarin] So I hope everyone has been enjoying the new Combat Droids in the lastest Publish, Droid Invasion. We have even more planned for the upcomming publish with additional droid modules to add lots of new utility and fun functionality to brings droids even more to the forefront of the SWG Universe.


You let the non player reader thing there where player droids wich is false


[17:09] [TH] Also, the Live Events team has been running some great live events with the droids in many cities.


Many starts at 2... so far I didn't saw any of you droids but in pics same for all my friends and guildmates



[17:10] [Brannoc] *Shiggins* Hi Devs , Just Wondering How Many New Driods do we Expect is Publish 8 if any?

[17:11] [Runesabre] Publish 8 will see the introduction of several new and interesting droid utility modules. We also have some new droids coming up in some of the new adventures we are developing.


Your answer makes people think there will be players droids, but you are avoiding the question and replying there will be new modules (not new droids modules) and new adventures droids = NPC droids



[17:17] [Brannoc] ·Dhashian· Are there any plans to restore the Probot medium armour, because right now it has no tanking abilities, which is the main point of the combat droids.

[17:18] [Runesabre] In order to maintain the proper combat balance of the game, it was necessary to reduce the probot armor to appropriate levels. The current probot armor was akin to what a level 150 creature would have.


Please show us a level 150 creature with 1k ham lmao!!!


[17:18] [Brannoc] *Valeria* When are there going to be new player controlled droids added to the game?

[17:18] [Blair] We have plans to implement new droid modules for the next publish. Additionally our art team is hard at work on new droids. We rolled out additional combat droids wiht publish 7 that you will see in a few weeks.


Same answer : new modules, not new Droids. The future will tell us pretty soon if there will be new PLAYER combat droids... in few weeks, how much is few in your mind?


[17:19] [Blair] With each publish more droids will be released.


You mean new NPC droids I suppose?


[17:20] [Brannoc] ·K[r]u|aw|· Have you ever considered addind some kind of looted or quest rewarded droid components/modules that could bring the droids up par to, let's say a Bio-Engineered non-ch pet ?

[17:21] [Blair] We really want to add additional high level combat droids to the game. It's fun, it's Starwars, and I love the idea of having a droid in combat.


All this crap, well I try to keep my calm but this is ** Self Edit ** YOU DON'T CARE at all about the droids and the DE's :

you didn't added new PLAYERS droids, and you "nerfed" the old probots.


[17:22] [Blair] Just handing high level combat droids to players, even on a limited basis, wouldn't be a good idea.


Nobody asked for such a thing



[17:25] [Keldarin] Droids are a big part of the theme for the next publish but that not all it will be


Well this publish was the "DROID INVASION" I hope the next one will be named "PLAYERS RETREAT" so we may see new droids... (oh and I forgot to add PLAYERS DROIDS!)


[17:42] [Keldarin] There also won't be a specific Force Sensitive slot anymore, you will actually enable the Force skills for your current character and progress from there.


Well this is the worst idea you had so there is two speed : you grinded fast enought and you get 2 chars, you are too late and welcome to one char only. Very kind for the newcomers...



[[17:43] [Brannoc] *Illian[Eclipse]* My question pertains to the new geonosian dungeon and the ris armor. Now that ris armor has been in the game, and upgraded with the drop from ackley, I'm wondering why only three races can wear the armor. When picking the rodian race, I read nothing about not being able to wear one of the most renounced pieces of armor in the galaxy. I'm curious as to whether or not that selection was intentional

[17:43] [Blair] So, our philosophy of cool drops is to make sure each thing we drop is cool, unique, and fun. From a design point of view, I don't have a problem with only certain species getting certain abilities. Over time, these things tend to balance everything out.

[17:44] [Blair] In this case, we didn't have time to make a helmet for the Rodians.


Well if you stick with this dumb idea make players able to switch race. Why should a devoted player have to delete his main char with 50 badges and all things he done just to be able to wear a helmet he would like to have?


[17:53] [Brannoc] [[AHAZI]QuinlanTheInferno] Are there any plans of rectifying the stat inequities for non-humans and such. As a Twi TKM, I have to use doctor to keep my mind and my HA bars up!!

[17:53] [Blair] Each species has a bonus that makes it unique for certain professions. Twi's are great entertainers, so they get huge bonuses with these professions. Twi's have a hard time with some of the combat professions. Wookiee's have an easier time being creature handlers.

[17:53] [Blair] We want each species to do any profession, but each species should have a unique experience.


Do you ever play the game? Whycan human be better than any other speices? Why a human can be stronger than a Wookie, have more willpower than a Zabrack and so on, reading this make me really sad


DarkCobra
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:43 pm
#33



[17:39] [Brannoc] [Cloner] But a question on everyone's mind, I'm sure, is the question of the future way to unlock the force sensitive slot. Is there any progress report on the new path?

[17:40] [Keldarin] We've been actively working on the Jedi Revamp and I think you will all be pretty excited about what we have planned.

[17:40] [Keldarin] We're moving away from the skill based enabling that we have now and moving to a complete quest driven system.

[17:41] [Keldarin] Enabling your Force Sensitive skills will no longer require revoking skills or significantly changing you character.

[17:42] [Keldarin]
There also won't be a specific Force Sensitive slot anymore, you will actually enable the Force skills for your current character and progress from there.







Im sure i misunderstood but does that mean that everyone unlocking BEFORE the jedi revamp will be awarded 2 characters but people that unlock POST jedi revamp will be unfairly refused the right to have 2 character on the same sever?

I dont doubt that if this is true,there will be something balancing the fact that POST revemp wont have 2 chars so whats gonna happen? The way to unlock it will be easier?POST revamp will be able to have force skills and normal too?
Bitmap
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:06 pm
#34

we translated the chatlog into german ... if there are some germans out there: follow this link

http://www.swg-database.com/articles.php?action=show&id=276
Drunkenjedi420
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:12 pm
#35

Hey guys whats the deal - we get a group of developers to come out and give us some kewl info and everyone is tripping out. Take a minute to thank them for putting together the game you SPEND hours playing everyday. You do play the game dont you? Its a great game and nothing is perfect (everyone has had their ups and downs) - lets show some respect to ourselves and the game we so enjoy created by them- otherwise get the fook outta here and go play Diablo. Sorry but Im just getting heated from all this negative crap. Go play Everquest or something or just be a Man ( it wont be easy for some) and deal with it.


Note: Even I get pissed sometimes - not always for the right reasons at the right people.



Note 2: I also saw a Handfull of the CORE SWG team ( TH - Ronda - Q - and you know ther rest). I am very happy that all of you took your time to make it. Very kewl.



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DarkCobra
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:18 pm
#36

Thanks dev for answering everything.


But we do need info on the issue i brought still cause we got an half answer and all thats commin out of it is lots of apocalyptic thoughts from normal players that didnt unlock yet AND jedis that already unlocked


DeQuosaek
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:40 pm
#37






Arnwald wrote:

One word DISINFORMATION :


[17:10] [Brannoc] *Shiggins* Hi Devs , Just Wondering How Many New Driods do we Expect is Publish 8 if any?

[17:11] [Runesabre] Publish 8 will see the introduction of several new and interesting droid utility modules. We also have some new droids coming up in some of the new adventures we are developing.


Your answer makes people think there will be players droids, but you are avoiding the question and replying there will be new modules (not new droids modules) and new adventures droids = NPC droids





Did you miss the huge thread where the majority of posters said they wanted UTILITY DROIDS and not combat droids?


That's what the majority of players involved in the discussion said, so that's what we get. You have mainly the Droid Engineers and other players to thank for that one, NOT the Devs.





Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

Kane_Firestalker
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:46 pm
#38






DarkCobra wrote:

Thanks dev for answering everything.


But we do need info on the issue i brought still cause we got an half answer and all thats commin out of it is lots of apocalyptic thoughts from normal players that didnt unlock yet AND jedis that already unlocked








Sounds like a perfect topic for the Friday Feature tomorrow *nudge* *nudge*



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DeQuosaek
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:47 pm
#39






Drunkenjedi420 wrote:

Hey guys whats the deal - we get a group of developers to come out and give us some kewl info and everyone is tripping out. Take a minute to thank them for putting together the game you SPEND hours playing everyday. You do play the game dont you? Its a great game and nothing is perfect (everyone has had their ups and downs) - lets show some respect to ourselves and the game we so enjoy created by them- otherwise get the fook outta here and go play Diablo. Sorry but Im just getting heated from all this negative crap. Go play Everquest or something or just be a Man ( it wont be easy for some) and deal with it.




Absolutely. You'll find that the amount of respect these ingrates have for most anybody is highly underwhelming. The people who created this fun game from scratch deserveall of these players'respect. They wouldn't have anything to get their panties in a bunch over if it wasn't for them.


Hell, they even gave you whiners the 5 minute shuttle time and you're still bitching.


Thank you all for taking the time to share the info and have the chat with us.


Keep up the good job, and keep making this great game even better. RESPECT.






Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

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