Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10 Feedback, “The Jedi Trials”: Live Issues and Open Discussion
Nothmund
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:30 pm
#352
Ok, I've been playing since last October, I went to fanfest, and I have been a stalwart supporter of the 'give them a chance, they will get it right' approach. But this publish pushes even my limits. First we get the news that instead of fixing broken things that we've lived with for nearly a year, the Jedi system will be re-vamped. And that will take 2 full publish cycles, soif you don't plan to be a jedi,nothing for you for the next 2 months. (beenover 6 months or so since we've seen any story-line based content, this has been one long ImperialCrackdown.)
Then the bigone:AtFanfest, thebuzz-word answers for every problemwere Combat Rebalance, or GCW Revamp. So it was quite a blow that we get told flat out, that we have to pay for this broken crap untill after the expansion for it comes out before any effort to fix it happens. (It's been nearly a year for me now, and I have seen nothing to make me believe that they will not deliver JTLS in much the same shape that SWG is now.)
So when you ask for my feedback on this publish, I have to think in overall terms:
1. You said that the Idle NPCs will now despawn.I still see large clumps of NPCs in major cities. I doubt that there 50+ artisans per cities doing crafting missions per 5 minute window. Not fixed.
2. My vechicles now pop cool wheelies when going up even gentle slops.
3. Bounty Hunter Investigation 1 is still totally broken, (and I guess the higher levels are now even more bugged)
4. My harvestors now seem to choose at random what they harvest.
5. My planet map seems to choose at random what cities it shows.
6. The gungan sacred place npcs still have no dialog in some of their talk windows.
7. I spent 5 minutes traveling over the same 500m over and over in some kind of 'warp bubble' this morning, and the servers are a lot less stable.
8. I should be happy about the few things that did work in the new publish, but all the things that didn't work have overshadowed the fact that I can now turn off screenshake, and my resources display their values in the crafting tools. And maybe one day the 'old man' will come see me and I can become a power gamer for a month before that too gets old.
I realize that when testing a new version on test center, you are able to start clean, and that some unforseen glitchs will pop up when intergrating it onto an existing server, but this is ridiculous. After this amount of time I would expect more for a service I pay for. So are the people that answer the phone in the front office in charge of scripting untill all the development team is done with JTL?
... And when is that beta going to start?
Holding on, but just barely.
Nothmund (Tempest)
Lunatic_
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:35 pm
#353
Ok. I'm sick of this. Everyone Complains.
To the players:
The Devs, CSR's, and everyone else, realise that there are problems. This is painfully obvious, as the servers have been brought down for repair at least once since I've gone to work at 2 pm PST.
Let me give you a brief rundown of the structure of a company. There is this thing called managment. They're generally over people like the ones you're all sitting here crying at like idiotic children. Stating that one person, or a group of persons working on a project, is idiotic, regardless of how eloquent you are, is pointless. If you have issues? Request that a message be delivered to someone in managment. Flaming the guys and girls who have to put up with your collective BS continually for something that they have no controll over is.. well, to put it in your terms, idiocy.
How about something CONSTRUCTIVE for a change? When you see a problem, send in a customer service ticket. If you feel it's nessicary,put somethingsemi-intelligent here for the dev's to see it. Let them bloody well fix it, instead of crying like a 2 year old who had a friggin' sucker taken away.
Now. Do I agree with how things are being done? No. There are endless problems in the game, especially at the times of publish releases. I, personally, believe they should stop releasing new content for a month or three, and get what they can fixed of what's out there. Do I blame the Dev's? No. Managment tells them what to do, ultimately.
For you computer-idiots out there (most of you, apparently) - whenever you change lines of code in anything, computer games included, there are going to be errors. Personally, you brainless fools that are on here so constantly complaining? I'd love to see you do a better job than the people currently working on this project.
To the Dev's/CSR's/whoever else is listening, offically and unofficially.
Things are screwing up. Understandably, people are upset, we do pay for this game afterall. I, personally, would like to request three things.
- More effort put into fixing the major issue bugs already in the system. (IE - Client Crashes)
- More effort put into preventing bugs at Pub release time. They're bound to be some, but all efforts to avoid them are appreciated.
-Another official forum strictly devoted to the posting of player suggestions, be it about general game play, content, or whatever else.
To those with enough brain to listen - thanks.
To those without? Eh.. flame me, complain at me.. I really dont care.
Martbar
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:43 pm
#355
I have the maximum number of vendors now allowed at my skill level (3 - im novice merchant). Yesterday everything worked fine after I removed 3 of my vendors to comply with the new vendor rules but today (Wednesday) I tried relistingitems that had expired and even offering new items for sale but i keep getting the message that I have "too many vendors" but I don't have too many vendors. I have exactly3 vendors which is exactly what should be allowed at my skill level.
reward123
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:46 pm
#356
well i am trying to organize a shut down the game for an hour demonstration to let soe know that we expect our force sensitive slots. i think that if on the thrid day u have not been given your slot as now promised twice we need to pick a time and everyone log off to show soe that this is how many potetial custmer s they will be losing. if this doesnt get thier attention then its true that thier foolish actions were truly the end of a great game.ok if your intersted please log off server on the fourth day sept 3 6;00p.m (pst) please anybody that has worked as hard a s i ahve to get this slot please participate a huge number will make soe stop and rethink thier position to there customers givieng them oppurtunity to fix this NIGHT MARE.
Sin-Kwan
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:48 pm
#357
can anyone help me with this issue? where do the screen shots save to? i cant find them anywhere? thanks.....
jp_alone
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:51 pm
#358
This is gonna be burried amongst all the whinging about having to wait but here it go's anyways.
Last night i got my visit from the old man and i now have the crystal, evrything looks ok right down to the log showing me having done the talk to the old man quest.
I am now back to running missions waiting for the next step in the chain of events to get to the village.
One thingI did notice was thatI had a harvester mining one type of resourcethat ended up with three in there, it was a small matter as the resources are only used to fuel a faction hq anyways and has since been replaced with a fusion powerplant as the city artisans need that more 
Iknow three other ppl that have glowing characters and so far two have been visited and the others are still waiting
nuff said really.
Neval31
Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:52 pm
#359
THis is just great. I grind 24 professions and unlock after patch 9. I get a message that says I will be able to make my Jedi with the comming of patch 10. For 2 days now I have been waiting for some stupid old man. Now if I was just in a long line of other post 9 unlockers I could understand. But get this!!!! 2 guild mates who did not unlock have already been visited. THIS IS TOTAL BULL CRAP!!!
Add one more to your ever growing list of pissed off customers. I have already canceled 2 accounts. I see City of Heros in my near future.
MajkStone
Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:13 pm
#360
***** Bug found *****
FS Village - Phase 1
Combat Quests
Patrol 3 / 10 will not complete. It kept saying i messed up, but i had not seen any raiding party. . . i killed the 1-3 siths that appear at the other patroll points as the instructions say to.
Tried it about 20 times, and logged out/back in to try some more still got the bug.
Please address asap!
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FS Village - Phase 1
Combat Quests
Patrol 3 / 10 will not complete. It kept saying i messed up, but i had not seen any raiding party. . . i killed the 1-3 siths that appear at the other patroll points as the instructions say to.
Tried it about 20 times, and logged out/back in to try some more still got the bug.
Please address asap!
****************************
santachristo
Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:31 pm
#361
btw, my ingame name is realize.
you wanted feedback, now respond plz to it.
i really start liking the new features, and i can live with some bugs. but plz, show any signs that you are working on it.
you wanted feedback, now respond plz to it.
i really start liking the new features, and i can live with some bugs. but plz, show any signs that you are working on it.
Megerea
Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:55 pm
#362
On Sept 2, I was visited by the Old man, and given the crystal, I then logged off, to get on another account to craft an AV21 for a guild member. After I finished, 5 minutes later, I logged back on and my crystal was missing.
Logged off for 15 minutes, still no crystal.
I had plenty of inventory space, and did actualy have the crystal before I logged off, but didn't use it.
I submited a CSR report, and am logging off for a couple of hours, hopefuly it comes back, and doesnt mess up my vist from the sith...
Char name: Megerea
Server: Kettemoor
Logged off for 15 minutes, still no crystal.
I had plenty of inventory space, and did actualy have the crystal before I logged off, but didn't use it.
I submited a CSR report, and am logging off for a couple of hours, hopefuly it comes back, and doesnt mess up my vist from the sith...
Char name: Megerea
Server: Kettemoor
QuadShot
Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:25 pm
#363
This is just completely screwed up.... I'm in "Group 1" and there are people in "Group 2/3" that have been visited by the "Old Man" (They must be Imps!).
And secondly Management is Responsible! They make the decision to go ahead with the release or not to go ahead with a release. Unless they do what Microsoft does...(send the test team home, have a meeting and "Ship because there have been no new bugs found!"). Some of these issues were reported from the Test Center last week! Yea it makes sense, we know its a bug, so publish it and then we'll do a hot fix at 3am next week! NOT! IDIOTS
And secondly Management is Responsible! They make the decision to go ahead with the release or not to go ahead with a release. Unless they do what Microsoft does...(send the test team home, have a meeting and "Ship because there have been no new bugs found!"). Some of these issues were reported from the Test Center last week! Yea it makes sense, we know its a bug, so publish it and then we'll do a hot fix at 3am next week! NOT! IDIOTS
Jaso1975
Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:33 pm
#364
I was hanging out on Dathomir waiting for the Sith to come visit me. No dice. A fellow guildie recommended that I go to Syn, since that's where he found the Sith. I shuttle into Syn, and as soon as I load, I am under attack from three Sith. No problem, EXCEPT- some other guy starts blasting them as well!The three Sith were quickly dispatched, and I was able to loot the data disk from one of them. Phew. The data disk gives me a waypoint to the Sith camp, about 800m away. So I head out to the camp, and as soon as I arrive at the waypont, the WP disappears and there is no camp to be seen! ARGH!!!
Questions:
1. Does that idiot shooting my Sith have anything to do with my mission being borked?
2. Will I have to be contacted by the Sith again in order to get the camp waypoint again?
Questions:
1. Does that idiot shooting my Sith have anything to do with my mission being borked?
2. Will I have to be contacted by the Sith again in order to get the camp waypoint again?
3. How do I get the Sith to come back?
Any ideas? I have a ticket open with customer service, but havent been able to check it since I left for work to see if they responded.
Any ideas? I have a ticket open with customer service, but havent been able to check it since I left for work to see if they responded.