Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
lunatin wrote:well i have read all of yalls complaints about publish 9 but ut is know ones fault but yours...the gave us all the chance to log on to the test center and play for the sole reason of finding bugs...so in my eyes if you did not go to the test center and try it then stop whinning...every time i went to the test i got ambushed by a bounch of jedi that did not care about testing the game...so i stopped going...well later and have fun...
I NEVER GOT THAT CHANCE I WAS TOO BUSY WORKING MY ASS FOR 6 MONTHS GRINDING FOR JEDI CAUSE THE BEST THEY COULD DO WAS COME UP WITH THE HOLO GRIND 29 USELESS PROFESSIONS
I unlocked 1 week After the deadline at creating a Jedi on test
DraxellX wrote:
StumanKadir wrote:Issue: Launchpad continually does a full rescan everytime I try and log in to the game.
What he said. Takes me 35 mins just to log on. /flail
What they said and this started this EVENING not with the patch. I logged in 2-3 times during the day
without problem. Now this evening it does the full scan every time. (I thought it was Windows Media player
9 which I downloaded between the login that worked fine and the ones later that now do the full scan.
-Indene-
KJFett wrote:
IndySWG wrote:TH the smugglers are quite upset by our stealth nurf.
"Profession: Smuggler
You will no longer be able to slice an item by using a tool in a crate. You will have to remove it from the crate first."WHAT?! WHY!?! How is this an issue in any way shape or form!? Why would you do this !? This is just crazy. Uncalled for Nurf.zofo64 explained:We said.....We are having problems with our laser knives. We are having to pull them out of crate to get 10 uses out of them. If we leave them in the crate we only get one use. Please fix this...
What they Heard....
Blah blah blah.. Have to pull out of crate to get 10 uses... blah blah blah... Please fix this...
This was your solution!? Make is so that you cannot auto pull CHARGED tools maybe ... but not mol. clapms and WUKs/AUKs.
The issue here is that this "fix" ... fixes NOTHING. It mearly addes NEEDLES double clikcing and drag-dropping to each slice. This is a value add in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ... yet it was tossed it in (completely by passing the step where it was supposed to hit test center) in a mindless nurf.
There was no balance issue here... there was no economy issue (the tools will still be created and stored in the same quantity and in crates ... you just added 3 needles double clicks per slice.) NEEDLESS AND POORLY THOUGHT OUT KICK IN THE NUTS TO SMUGGLERS!
Nobody at SOE thought to themeselves:
"Gee this doesnt really fix anything and I Can't imagine why smugglers would want it....why are we doing this again?" !?!?
Nobody at SOE thought to themeselves:
"Hmm...we probably should have tossed this onto TC for a day at least to evaluate what this does to the smugglers we claim to care about now"
Someone suggested that this may have been done to make smuggler a more difficult profession to master. If that is the case ... I have zero faith for our revamp. This does not make smuggler harder to master in any meaningful gameplay. It mearly ADDS mindless and needless tedium and mouse clicking.....
I've been in this since beta...I'm done with smuggler if this remains the exmaple of your understanding of our issues.Please say this "fix" is poorly worded and is actually something else...or is being removed.Edited for type-oMessage Edited by IndySWG on 06-29-2004 10:33 AM
Wow, go to the smug forums and you'll see this is not the case...now aren't you glad you got on the devs bad side with all that ranting?
I dont give a DAMM i pay for this game and this is asburd maybe if we make enough noise seems to be the case of most issues in this game or we hit their pocket books will they take action
LeBob wrote:
LeBob wrote:
Issue: Jedi should not be allowed to be neutral since the Emperor would never allow the public use of the force except to further its own cause.
Given that Jedi are not allowed to be neutral, they should receive a TEF for any use of the force or activating a light saber for the reason mentioned above.
Server: every
Planet: every
Location (x,y): all
Your profession: N/A
Instructionson how to recreate the bug: allow my subscription of SWG to continue
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Lord-Brisbane wrote:
KJFett wrote:
IndySWG wrote:
TH the smugglers are quite upset by our stealth nurf.
"Profession: Smuggler
You will no longer be able to slice an item by using a tool in a crate. You will have to remove it from the crate first."
WHAT?! WHY!?! How is this an issue in any way shape or form!? Why would you do this !? This is just crazy. Uncalled for Nurf.
zofo64 explained:
We said.....
We are having problems with our laser knives. We are having to pull them out of crate to get 10 uses out of them. If we leave them in the crate we only get one use. Please fix this...
What they Heard....
Blah blah blah.. Have to pull out of crate to get 10 uses... blah blah blah... Please fix this...
This was your solution!? Make is so that you cannot auto pull CHARGED tools maybe ... but not mol. clapms and WUKs/AUKs.
The issue here is that this "fix" ... fixes NOTHING. It mearly addes NEEDLES double clikcing and drag-dropping to each slice. This is a value add in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ... yet it was tossed it in (completely by passing the step where it was supposed to hit test center) in a mindless nurf.
There was no balance issue here... there was no economy issue (the tools will still be created and stored in the same quantity and in crates ... you just added 3 needles double clicks per slice.) NEEDLESS AND POORLY THOUGHT OUT KICK IN THE NUTS TO SMUGGLERS!
Nobody at SOE thought to themeselves:
"Gee this doesnt really fix anything and I Can't imagine why smugglers would want it....why are we doing this again?" !?!?
Nobody at SOE thought to themeselves:
"Hmm...we probably should have tossed this onto TC for a day at least to evaluate what this does to the smugglers we claim to care about now"
Someone suggested that this may have been done to make smuggler a more difficult profession to master. If that is the case ... I have zero faith for our revamp. This does not make smuggler harder to master in any meaningful gameplay. It mearly ADDS mindless and needless tedium and mouse clicking.
....
I've been in this since beta...I'm done with smuggler if this remains the exmaple of your understanding of our issues.
Please say this "fix" is poorly worded and is actually something else...or is being removed.
Edited for type-o
Message Edited by IndySWG on 06-29-2004 10:33 AM
Wow, go to the smug forums and you'll see this is not the case...now aren't you glad you got on the devs bad side with all that ranting?
I dont give a DAMM i pay for this game and this is asburd maybe if we make enough noise seems to be the case of most issues in this game or we hit their pocket books will they take action
The only reason they're not complaining about this is because IT'S NOT IN. Yes, this is in the patch notes and not in the game. What is Sony doing?
Aside from that, this appears to be a typical Sony path-of-least-resistance "fix" for the bug where knives in crates would use an entire knife per slice instead of one charge (out of ten). Instead of actually fixing the underlying bug causing that, theydo a half-assed fix that technically eliminates the problem but causes yet another annoyance to the players.
Well, that latest publish pretty much convinced me that it's time to cancel my account. If, by some miracle, actual SoE employees read this post, I'd like to list just a couple of the reasons why (all of the reasons would be too numerous to mention).
Issue: Armor Now Takes Forever to Put On
I don't normally like to flame but, adding a delay to wearing armor? What kind of a sick nut job thinksup this crap? It's a *GAME*! It's supposed to be fun! It seems to be a continuing theme that adding *wait* time to aspects of the game is suppose to somehow enhance gameplay. Newsflash: many of us have actual jobs and family lives and taking an hour to play a game at night, where 30 minutes of it are spent waiting for shuttles at numerous cities(as if it's believable that there's a single shuttle handling all traffic to all destinationsat a starport), or waiting to wear armor (again.. emphasize that it's a game here,not REAL!), is rediculous.
You don't understand that if you build the game right, you won't have to add wait times to keep people online longer - they'll play just because they're having fun *continuously*!! Get it?
Issue:Severe inconsistency with actual Star Wars storyline
SoE, in my opinion, made a mistakeby tying SWG too closely to characters from the original movies. Doesn't SoE realize that the Star Wars franchise is much bigger than Luke Skywalker? Instead of adding to the richness of the universe, as many authors of Star Wars novels have already done, SoE reached out its marketing hand, and without care or consideration of impacting the original storyline, twisted (and keeps on twisting) Star Wars into a quick money-making scheme. Unfortunately, many like myself, who are real fans of the movies and novels, kept playing because we were hopeful that it will all be fixed someday, and our dream to adventure in the Star Wars universe would be realized. Not by mindlessly killing nests, or delivering items to NPCs, but by participating in meaningful, luscious storylines that are well thought out and seem to *fit* togetherand actually impact the universe we play in.
SoE would have been better off positioning SWG 1000 years in the past, where jedi were numerous (as they are now in the game), and where they could weave a storyline that added to the richness of Star Wars, instead of taking away from an icon of our times. Set in such a time, you could maybe allow players whose only desire was to *play* a jedi, to actually create a jedi character. Again, key word here is *play*, not mindless, unpaid work, whose sole purpose seems to be to beta-test your game.
The only real reason I even played SWG was because I wanted to play a jedi in a social environment. Given the rediculous inconsistency of the storyline and terrible and buggy gameplay of the game in general, I don't see why I should continue to hopelessly struggle, whether through grinding or jedi trials (in six plus weeks), to try and achieve jedi. You ruined the experience for me, SoE. Absolutely ruined it.
I'm done wasting my time and giving you my money. If anyone reads this, I strongly advise you to walk away from this game as fast as you can. It's never going to be the game you hoped it would be, they've seen to that already.