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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor
Vizsla and the bulk of the Death Watch, including the vile Montross, were finished off by Jango Fett but a few escaped their just reward and are no doubt free in the galaxy still.
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Well, after reading 4 pages worth of posts, i just couldnt read anymore without commenting.
In my opinion it should be a very hard item to come by, nothing should be easy about it. But I also feel that there needs to be some restrictions to who exactly can have the armor. But how about a concept like this:
#1) Theres a requirement to have a Elite Combat Profession (ECP)to wear it
#2) Depending on the ECP you have, the armor would have different stats or abilities to it, thus making each professions armor unique. And from there, the armor crafted always maintains those stats for the type of profession its crafted for. That would limit dabbling and require people who want to use the armor to invest time in the profession and not just grind through it and go.
#3) It would help the crafters as well, if that indeed is the intent, because then they would have the ability to make differnt suits for the different ECP's.
But as always, what does happen to the races who arent allowed to wear full suits of armor?? Myself being a Wookie, I would assume will be left out of the loop on this.
Im sorry if any of this was already covered but I had to voice my opinion after reading the first four pages of posts.
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Thrive wrote:
Just read this... so one last comment....
Jedi shouldnot be able to wear ANY armor, they need the maximum range of movement and unblocked sences. I was greatly suprised that they were able to wear everything from Bone to Composit but i would find it even more suprising if they could wear Mandalorian..
It is rumored that the the metal from Concord Dawn used to create the Mandalorian armor is unique and has the quality of not only blocking light sabers effectively, but acting as a barrier that keeps the wearer safe from attack by the use of the Force.
Well your wrong, thats stupid...
a Light saber is pure light, a heat so intence it can burn through anyhting... Metal is a naturaly occuring element.... it can be destroyed... even bulletproof armor can be melted...
Jango wore it and YES he was suseptible to the force, and althow he met his demise when Maces saber went between the Helm and Chest Plate, this is because Mace is the uber saber master of the universe...
I dont know who told u this rumor but i suggest slapping them with some sort of small mamal , because its stupid...
Have a marvelous day
Syro Tantor
Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master
Naboo, Kettemoor
P.S. Thrive... that page long post u wrote has already been coverd by many many othere players... But u rased some very good points.
Syro Tantor
Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master
Naboo, Kettemoor
I won't see the Mandalorian Armor being the next "composite" in the sense that everyone can wear it. Only MBH with a specific mission should get it. Devs, you've already destroyed the myth of Jedi. Do not destroy the myth of this armor.
For this armor, I though for a low-emcumbrance one, but with good protection like 60-70% all.
Iggep wrote:
For gods sake, STOP THIS MADNESS. DO NOT BRING THIS ARMOR IN THE GAME. A few months ago I was all for it, especially since it was rumor to be a master BH quest of epic proportions, but after playing this game since July I have little faith that SOE can do this in anything approaching a proper fashion. You create loot fests, that lead to millions for either weaponsmiths or Armorsmiths. If any of you actually play this game you'd already know how ridiculously fast armor degrades (so why the heck does it decay in PvE at death then????) as do weapons. This game neither needs further entries to enrichment for the crafters, or another static spot for looters to camp 24x7. Heck with it, leave the armor out of the game. We're all better off without it.
You reading all these posts Devs? For gods sake, leave this armor out of the game! You continuously post about the imersive feel of the game, and then you come up with plans such as this because some Lucasarts employee has been lobbying you? Read these 14 pages of snide remarks and demands, and you quickly get the feel of this being nothing but a devisive issue. This is a RARE armor than in canon only one person is known to have at the time. Your plan is likely to create yet another lootfest that will further enrich a class that neither needs more money, nor the hassle of handling yet another product. I do not want to see 10000 people walking around in this armor! You want to keep the starwarsy feeling in the game, fine, then do not allow 10000 people to have an armor that only Boba Fett is known to have in this time line!
Another issue is that armor all looks alike. Other than color, everyone looks alike. How about create additional artwork for armor instead of introducing Mandalorian? I'd like to see at least 10 different versions of each armor type and allow custom configuration of each, such as being allowed to add personal items onto the armor. That way everyone would look unique in a way and we wouldn't destroy one of the most cherished items in the star wars universe -- that being Boba Fetts armor!!!
llaunay wrote:
Well your wrong, thats stupid...
a Light saber is pure light, a heat so intence it can burn through anyhting... Metal is a naturaly occuring element.... it can be destroyed... even bulletproof armor can be melted...
Jango wore it and YES he was suseptible to the force, and althow he met his demise when Maces saber went between the Helm and Chest Plate, this is because Mace is the uber saber master of the universe...
I dont know who told u this rumor but i suggest slapping them with some sort of small mamal , because its stupid...
Have a marvelous day
For starters, calling someone stupid won't make them see your point. Especially when you're don't check your "facts".
From starwars.com: At the press of a button the energy contained within is liberated and forms as a shaft of pure energy about a meter long.Its shimmering blade is capable of cutting through almost anything, save for the blade of another lightsaber.
Although light is energy, a lightsaber is not a beam of light.
There is a substance called cortosis that is able to resist lightsabers and short them out for a short period of time. It doesn't make you immune to the Force though.
And as you say Mace is the uber saber master. he was able to slice between Jango's helmet and chest piece where there was no protection.
Jedi shouldnot be able to wear ANY armor, they need the maximum range of movement and unblocked sences. I was greatly suprised that they were able to wear everything from Bone to Composit but i would find it even more suprising if they could wear Mandalorian..
It is rumored that the the metal from Concord Dawn used to create the Mandalorian armor is unique and has the quality of not only blocking light sabers effectively, but acting as a barrier that keeps the wearer safe from attack by the use of the Force.
Bleylock wrote:
FYI, I am reading the Tales of the Bounty Hunters right now and Jaster Mereel was the original name of Boba Fett, not his superior.
This correction brought to you by the letter Q and the color Mauve.
This correction is brought to you by Starwars.com, and myself, lol.
Jango Fett was orphaned at an early age, the son of simple Concord Dawn farmers killed by brutal marauders. At the age of ten, he was picked up by Journeyman Protector Jaster Mereel, who introduced Fett to a harsh world of mercenary life. He was raised among great warriors, learning to survive in the rugged frontiers. Though the Mandalorian supercommandos were wiped out by the Jedi Knights, Jango was one of the few left to still wear the armor.
Jaster Mereel commanded the Mandalorians after Madalore was killed by Death Watch on the battlefield. When Jaster died, Jango became thier leader.
Heres a bit of history as well....
The Sith War: This war was started by Kun and Qel-Droma who were marked as twin Sith Lords by the oldest and most powerful of the great Sith: Marka Ragnos. They along with Aleema began a long and terrible war against the Jedi. Mandalore became involved when he lead his best and most skilled Journeyman Protectors from Concord Dawn to the base of Qel-Droma and Aleema. He demand that they surrender their armies to him and then he would use them to bring back peace and justice in the galaxy (basicly take over the galaxy but in a manner he saw fit). Qel-Droma challenged Mandalore to a honour duel with the winner gaining command of the loser's forces. Mandalore was defeated and because he could not break his oath of honour he and the Journeymen Protectors sided with the Sith against the Jedi.
The Mandalorians, near invulnerable to the Jedi weapon of choice (the lightsaber could only cut through the armour at its weakest points: the neck, the joints, the gaps in the armour plates etc), became the shock troopers of the Sith Forces and saw the most fighting against the Jedi Order. Towards the end of the war Mandalore himself was killed by the Jedi and the Mandalorians were defeated. The Jedi pushed them back to their home system and planet of Concord Dawn. There they isolated the Mandalorians as a form of misguided punishment for what they had done in the war. From there, lead by Ulic Qel-Droma the Jedi struck down Exar Kun and effectively ended the Great Sith War. After the Sith War the Jedi forgot about the now isolated and broken Mandalorians but they, on the other hand, never forgot about their enemies.
Jaster Mereel: Jaster Mereel was the leader of the JMPs who fought during the civil war against Vizsla and the Death Watch. He was descended from Mandalore himself as were many of his clan and they still wore the colours of Mandalore: black armour with red. I will get into how the clan bit is set-up a little later. What is known of Jaster Mereel is that he was a great leader and the best of the Mandalorian JMPs alive (Jango Fett Open Seasons #1 and #2). The Death Watch attempted to shame him and his clan when Jaster killed another JMP (it was strictly forbidden to murder another JMP). The reasons behind Jaster killing a fellow JMP are unknown. Confirmation that Jaster killed a JMP is found in Tales of the Bounty Hunters.
Note that Jaster Mereel and Boba Fett are not the same person as the story in Tales of the Bounty Hunters would lead one to believe. It is a recount of things that Jango had related to Boba when he was young. Jaster was killed by Vizsla when his second in command, Montross abandoned him on the battlefield. Jango witnessed Jaster's death and it would forever effect him.
There is much more history to the Mandalorians, and to discredit it by letting Bounty Hunters lay claim to thier armor - theonly thingthey left behind -would be shameful, unfair and take away from the history of one of themost admired organizations of the SW universe.
As I said before.. the Madalorians were NOT iconic of the Bounty Hunters Guild, rather Boba Fett and Jango Fettare now icons of Bounty Hunting which was causedby the movies.
The armor is truly the icon of the JMPs and of Mandalore, and thier history belongs to all of the SW Universe, not only Master Bounty Hunters.
I guarantee, when you go to the Death Watch cave.. none of them will say '(Master Bounty Hunter)' under thier name. But they will ALL be wearing Mandalorian armor.