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Thread: Publish 8.2 Feedback: Death Watch Bunker

ZeckAzuenden
Wed May 26, 2004 8:27 am
#300

After doing the Corvette, getting praticly one shot (while fully buffed)by a SBD, I have 0 interest in going back there or even hitting DWB. Making content this annoying is pointless. Face it, when folks start saying go to the Corvette naked because you will die so much, something is not ballenced right. I like a good challenge, but challenge implies that it can be done.





Zeck Ravenclaw
BH,day one player, Eclipse

Jaggid
Wed May 26, 2004 8:29 am
#301

This probably wont be read on the back end of the post, but i dare to say that some of you people are very SELFISH. All i ever here is lets have more easy content, lets have more warrens.


That being sad theres a CRAPLOAD of soloable and rewarding content IN THIS GAME ALREADY. There are 3 COUNT THEM 3 HIGH END Pieces of content in this game.

AND 2 of them can be completed with less then 10 people.

The Corvette -- 10 elite people can complete this bring bomb droids.

The Geno Cave -- 1 person can solo this pretty far down.

The Death Watch Bunker -- 30 People is reccomended to complete this area.

Now take a hard look at this everyone take a long hard look. 3 areas of this game are conciderd elite 1 of them can be soloed so now were down to 2. The vette is hard, but with the right tactics and if you master your prof instead of hologrinding, and build on your prof, you can do this with a mere 10 people. If you dont know 10 people join a guild. Or Do the quest and get a ticket and hang out at the vette areas, ive gotten into a couple groups that needed extra people on the vette.


As for the deathwatch bunker, FINALLY large guilds, and mine isnt the hugest, HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ALL THERE PEOPLE.


I understand everyone wants the best, but the fact is it doesnt happen like that, like in life you have to work somewhat for your reward, can a casual gamer get mando armor? Sure. Join a guild and when ur casually playing hunt Black sun NPC's once you finally got your BH armor, take a trip with your guild to the deathwatch bunker and probably your guild will craft it for you. WOW its that simple. The only difference is is a casual gamer might take 6-8 months to get the best, a hardcore gamer is gonna get it asap. Unfair? no because you have the choice to be a hardcore gamer or a casual gamer.


The devs will add much more Warren type soloable content, but for god sakes everything in this game is soloable except for Vette and Deathwatch. Are you people saying its to much to ask to have SOME high end content in this game?? So you would Penalize the Hardcore gamer because you casual gamers are to selfish to sit back and wait your turn.


You know what the casual gamer is getting MASS JEDI DUMPED right onto every server, you happy? no now you wanna solo the deathwatch bunker.

Gimme a break grow up and be fair.


BTW GREAT JOBS DEVS, i cant WAIT to go into the Deathwatch Bunker to Die =)
Ennoryt
Wed May 26, 2004 8:32 am
#302


Just a follow up example...


Padme one shots battle droids all through Episode one with a rebublic blaster. Naboo is safe, all is well.


Lets replace the movies battle droids with the Devs version... hmmm...


Padme shoots a battle droid with republic blaster... and shoots... and shoots some more... Her security forces notice that she is having a hard time with it so they start shooting... and shooting... and shooting...

Oh look there are 4 more droids in the room. They security forces drop one by one along with Padme... hmmm...

Naboo falls, the republic falls, and the trade federation rules the galaxy because the Emporer falls, as bad ass as he is, hecan't hang with more than 3 super battle droids at a time.


Sound like the same Star Wars that we all know and love?



Aoneov Loke,
Zinn Loke,
Member of the BBB
Rogues Landing, Corellia, Kettemoor
Jango Fett had an armor hole too... right between his helmet and his chestplate.
TK316de
Wed May 26, 2004 8:36 am
#303

Hi,




Jaggid wrote:
This probably wont be read on the back end of the post, but i dare to say that some of you people are very SELFISH. All i ever here is lets have more easy content, lets have more warrens.


That being sad theres a CRAPLOAD of soloable and rewarding content IN THIS GAME ALREADY. There are 3 COUNT THEM 3 HIGH END Pieces of content in this game.
[...]



I suggest you read my postings in this thread.

It's not that there is NOTHING to be done, but that the existing stuff gets boring after some time.

Now that you heavy duty killers have your stuff, maybe us casual gamers (or whiners, pick the one you prefer) who do not want to be forced to group up and have done the existing stuff already can have our share.



Hotte Hue
Bothan from Hell
Troll Initiate
TARQ > ALL
Escoh
Wed May 26, 2004 8:43 am
#304

Bunker Rockz, Had a great time first day, Got some loot killed some Droids. verry nice..


Nice high level content. Got 0 lag.



--[ =Escoh= ]--


R.I.P SWG 04/27/2005
Jaggid
Wed May 26, 2004 8:43 am
#305



TK316de wrote:
Hi,

Jaggid wrote:
This probably wont be read on the back end of the post, but i dare to say that some of you people are very SELFISH. All i ever here is lets have more easy content, lets have more warrens.


That being sad theres a CRAPLOAD of soloable and rewarding content IN THIS GAME ALREADY. There are 3 COUNT THEM 3 HIGH END Pieces of content in this game.
[...]
I suggest you read my postings in this thread.
It's not that there is NOTHING to be done, but that the existing stuff gets boring after some time.
Now that you heavy duty killers have your stuff, maybe us casual gamers (or whiners, pick the one you prefer) who do not want to be forced to group up and have done the existing stuff already can have our share.






Couldnt have put it better myself, how do u think hardcore gamers feel who have hit these same dungeons OVER AND OVER AND OVER more then a casual gamer ever has or will.

So the devs added content which should keep us busy for a while and your absolutly right now lets add some lower stuff. Im not an UBER L33T D00D, my char is a Bounty hyunter not masterd, and i have trouble doing anything on my own at the geno cave level, but i see a need for the high level content, and i also know that the stuff i find fun like you , like warren type encounters WILL be added, but lets not take away from the high level stuff that someday you might be enjoying yourself.


And another thing i didnt say in my previous post, when the combat revamp comes and everythings changed i dont think these High end content will seem as high end as they do now.
TK316de
Wed May 26, 2004 8:45 am
#306

Sorry, I forgot to comment on the following:




Jaggid wrote:


The devs will add much more Warren type soloable content, but for god sakes everything in this game is soloable except for Vette and Deathwatch. Are you people saying its to much to ask to have SOME high end content in this game?? So you would Penalize the Hardcore gamer because you casual gamers are to selfish to sit back and wait your turn.




How long exactly do you expect us to wait ?


Another 3 mini-publishes in which a profession gets revamped (ID) or another hardcore-dungeon is added ?


As I've said before, I think it's a common agreement that not everyone can be made happy all at once or at the same time.


But 3 hardcore dungeons in a row isa wee bit too much focused at heavy duty fighters IMO.




Hotte Hue
Bothan from Hell
Troll Initiate
TARQ > ALL
Jaggid
Wed May 26, 2004 8:51 am
#307



TK316de wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to comment on the following:

Jaggid wrote:


The devs will add much more Warren type soloable content, but for god sakes everything in this game is soloable except for Vette and Deathwatch. Are you people saying its to much to ask to have SOME high end content in this game?? So you would Penalize the Hardcore gamer because you casual gamers are to selfish to sit back and wait your turn.

How long exactly do you expect us to wait ?

Another 3 mini-publishes in which a profession gets revamped (ID) or another hardcore-dungeon is added ?

As I've said before, I think it's a common agreement that not everyone can be made happy all at once or at the same time.

But 3 hardcore dungeons in a row is a wee bit too much focused at heavy duty fighters IMO.







But the thing you dont realize is Geno can be done with 3 people man thats not that hardcore, and drops excelent loot.

Corvette can be done with 10 Mastrerd professions, thats still not that hardcore.

The deathwatch bunker is the only true hardcore thing that has been added to this game, and you can bring a raid level crew to make it easy.


I want other content to be added, but the point is all that content has been in the game they needed high level content.

I DONT expect you guys to wait as long as we all waited. what 7-10 publishes before we got high end content.

Be patient like we were and give the devs good critisism and you will get your content. But coming on here flaming the devs, telling them there game is crap which not you, but alot of people have done, those people can leave for all i care.

I want there to be content for everyone hard content and simple content and medium content. and in my mind Geonosian Cave was Mid level content everyone can and does enjoy, least on eclipse.
kronck
Wed May 26, 2004 8:54 am
#308

Well sounds like everyone want the mando armor easier to get suprise, suprise. I think the dificulty lev is good thus far. I went solo up to the bunker and joined a group of 6 or so, and we were able to make it to the first room that you have to find they key from the named npc. I was actually very suprised that I could tank as well as I could after hearing all the rumors of how difficult the mobs are. After a Week or so everyone will become more organized in that bunker and I believe that the dificulty complaints will become rather a small minority. The spawn rate is high, which throws all of the confusion and unorganized fighting in, which in turn gives everyone the feeling that its too hard.

Anyway i give it two thumbs up! New content, challenging, something i did not complete the day it went to live, and i have someting to work towards.



Kronck McKroncksky
Ahazi
Black Watch Regiment
Resource Vendor @ -4207 3068 Just outside of Theed. Open Since October of 2003.
COOLMAN55
Wed May 26, 2004 8:56 am
#309

READ DEVS.


I understand the certification for the mandalorian armor is master so that not just people who pick up novice can wear it, but for BH it is unfair, the other 3 professions can be mastered and a person can still choose another profession they want and master it, using the mandalorian armor withtheothermastered profession. For BH on the other hand, with master BH you can't master anything else. I would just go master commando for the cert and then do a profession I want to do, except I want to do BH but I don't want to spend all my points mastering it. BH should only have to be novice for the certification because they already have to have 2 professions mastered which uses up most of the skill points and that would allow them to also choose another profession they want to do like the other certified professions allow.
Greenlion
Wed May 26, 2004 8:57 am
#310

I say it whould be this hard, maybe harder. I mean, the whole point of this dungeon was to put the Mandolorian armor in the game and keep it rare. It being this hard does that.


Everybody wants a set of this armor, but can you honestly say that you want to see every Fett fanboy running around Coronet in Mandolorian armor?


Ennoryt
Wed May 26, 2004 8:58 am
#311

I don't want Mandolorian Armor to be easier to get. It should be one of the rarest items in the game. I just want the dungeon to be more playable. There are other ways to make the armor rare than stacking SBDs at the entrance of the dungeon and requiring 30 person groups to get anywhere.



Aoneov Loke,
Zinn Loke,
Member of the BBB
Rogues Landing, Corellia, Kettemoor
Jango Fett had an armor hole too... right between his helmet and his chestplate.
MaddogKilla
Wed May 26, 2004 9:00 am
#312

coolman55


LOL...I find you to be hilarious. Don't sweat it man that you need to be a Master BH, Master Commando. Master Squad leader, or Master Ranger to wear the armor because your never going to get it...LOL hahahahahhahahaahahahaaa never ever..hahahahahahaahhahahhahaha...
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