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Thread: SWG Forum Ranking Changes...

meagor
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:06 am
#274

Garva, one suggestion....when you are replying to a post, would you please quote that post? Someone like me that only scans to posts to see the devs comments would be able to keep up with the flow a lot easier. Sorry, but I just don't have time to read 16 pages of posts.


In relation to the topic, I like the idea of adding diversity and some of the suggestions are spot on.



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Yogol
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:18 am
#275

As long as the new system shows who one-stars CONDOLENCES from me, I'm in favor.



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aartex
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:24 am
#276






Ultimage wrote:

other than posting is there someplace that lists our rank?







Yes Click on the Dashboard link at the top or any thread.




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meagor
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:32 am
#277

One star for my last post? Do you people actually like the fact that Garva doesn't quote the original poster when he's replying? Jeez....din realize my suggestion was that lame.



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Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:45 am
#278






Thunderheart wrote:

Please let us know what you think about this.


Thanks!







Awesome idea!This will be great for us board trol...veterans




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groovysplat101
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:58 am
#279






Arg0nus wrote:





groovysplat101 wrote:

Rather than a posting average...why not base it off the number of stars you've been awarded (total)? So if someone awards you a 1-star, it still adds positive. It'd kill of the ninja-stars, and would also mean you can't loose your star rank. If, for example, 5 people thought my idea was great, I might get 25 stars out of the mix. If someone doesn't like the idea, I get no stars. If someone thought it was a nice idea, but flawed, maybe 1 or 2 stars. It would make the star system far more versatile, rather than having 5 "I like you" stars, or 1 "I hate you" star.


I get why this is happening, though. They're trying to cut down on trolling. It you say nice things, and people think "hey, that's a nice thing to say!", you get a higher star rank. But you're underestimating the ninjas. I had a perfect 5-star rating a few days ago...now its dropped to a 3, merely because a few people didn't like an idea, and 1-starred me every time I posted anything...


Nice system, but the star ranks are a little too fickle. If you achieve something, it shouldn't be taken away...especially not by a few malicious people with over-active clicky fingers.





It's an average of the rated posts. not all posts.


I have over 1000 posts...but not all of them are rated. Most...are basically ignored. lol Only the ones that are RATED count on the Star Titles.


Read my previous post about the ratings and averages.







I get that. What I'm saying is that, right now, posts are either unrated, one-starred, or five-starred. People rarely bother with anything in between. I'd rather see people commended for having 20 5-star posts, than 5 5-stars, 5 1-stars, and 10 3-stars...or whatever. People one-star out of spite, more often than not. A system like that is not the sort of system you want to be basing a rank system on.


Another idea - scrap the stars. Just have a single "star" that you can award to a post, if you like it, if you agree, or whatever. The rating would be based on how many people starred it. Then you could do a cumulative star thing. No averages. No 1-star ninjas. Just people who like your post, or don't. Then you total up the stars, and if you have a certain number of stars, you're eledgable for a star rank. The total of your stars can't decrease, so you can't have a malicious person "steal" your rank from you. If people come out with lots of positive, good ideas, that lots of people agree with...they should be the ones that are rewarded, not the people who have the least "enemies" on the forums.



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masterkuro
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:15 pm
#280

Nice ideas, you have my vote.



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arobus06
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:18 pm
#281

Another ID title holder already posted this, but what about us with the Interior Decorator title? I personally would rather keep my title then lose it to gain another title. What do the IDs out there get with this new ranking system?



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ih8modem
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:30 pm
#282

This sounds cool.


Now if only I could get my new copy of the game ....





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Civil_CH
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:06 pm
#283

Can we also get some feedback on these extremely old forum issues?


1) Failure to authenticate login informaiton. My account does not get logged in despite entering the correct information. Sometimes it takes dozens of attempts or waiting and trying later.

2) Logins expiring. Lithium supposedly had an update a while back to fix this. It's not fixed. Occasionally I can remain logged in for several hours even after navigating away from the forums, other times my login terminates after 15 minutes of inactivity.

3) "Too many searches in progress" This message is getting extremely annoying. The threshold needs to be raised - alot.


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LacyLips
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:16 pm
#284

If you disable star rankings through your profile will that opt you out for the star rankings?



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Yec
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:36 pm
#285






Thunderheart wrote:

Please let us know what you think about this.


Thanks!







I'll tell you what I think. I think the whole star system is stupid. All it does is allow unintellectual troglodites to do drive-bys on the posts of others. Dump it entirely. You'll practically never see star ratings anyway.



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CommanderRamius
Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 pm
#286






GarVa wrote:



Ok keep in mind this next list has not been approved by TH (he's out of office until next week) but it addresses concerns some of you voiced.


It has alloted for No post requirements, post requirements, time playing, post rating all in one.

The ranks are in ascending order, meaning the rank at the bottom over-rides the rank at the top, same goes for anything in between, rank 21 overrides rank 22, 23 overrides 22, etc.


Required for rank 1 (Member same as current) 1 month minimum

Required for rank2 (Community Member same as current) 1 month minimum 50 post (Edit Granted)

Required for rank3 (Sr.Member)2 month minimum(Edit Granted)

Required for rank4 (Sr. Community Member)2 month minimum75 post

Required for rank5 (Contributor)4 month minimum

Required for rank6 (Community Contributor)4 month minimum100 post


Required for rank7 (Veteran) 6 month minimum

Required for rank8 (Community Veteran same as current) 6 month minimum125 post


Required for rank9 (Guide)8 month minimum

Required for rank10 (Community Guide)8 month minimum175 post


Required for rank11 (Elder same as current) 9 month minimum

Required for rank 12 (Community Elder same as current) 9 month minimum250 post


Required for rank13 (Advisor)10 month minimum

Required for rank 14 (Community Advisor)10 month minimum300 post


Required for rank15 (Leader)12 month minimum

Required for rank16 (Community Leader same as current)12 month minimum350 post

Required for rank17 (Advocate) 14 month minimum

Required for rank18 (Community Advocate) 12 month minimum 2.7 starrating750 post


Required for rank 19 SWG Crewman 16 month minimum (Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank20 SWG Petty Officer 18 month minimum

Required for rank21 (Pilot)12 month minimum3.0 average rating 50 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)


Required for rank22 SWGChiefPetty Officer 24 month minimum

Required for rank23 SWG Ensign 28 month minimum

Required for rank24 (Squadron Leader)16 month minimum3.1 average125 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)


Required for rank25 SWG Second Lieutenant 30 month minimum

Required for rank26 SWG Lieutenant 36 month minimum


Required for rank27 (Wing Commander)20 month minimum3.2 average rating250 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank28 SWG Commander 40 month minimum

Required for rank29 (Jedi)24 month minimum3.5 average rating500 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank30 SWG Captain 48 month minimum


Required for rank31 (Master Jedi)48 month minimum4.0 average rating 1000 post
(Gold Officer insignia appears)


The star ratings for those few ranks is based on what people have so far and what is possible, as you can see its used sparcely and does not grant much more than title changing, there is a similar unranked title. Also yes, the star ranked "officer" ranks kick in faster than the regular ones.


The system will change when we are done with it, no specific date yet other than soon. And remember I do not work on the programming of the game, sorry, or I would be doing that.




Message Edited by GarVa on 08-20-2004 09:42 AM





I like the changes. The titles are better and from what I can tell,older posters are getting more senority despite post count, which is good. This forum rank layout is an improvement from the previous layout in my book. I like the military rank titlesmore than the political rank titlesfrom before, but I do agree that maybe there should be a choice of title at the top. If not the jedi titles should be replaced by something else.



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