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Arg0nus

Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:19 am

#261

dpuWookiee wrote:

interested to see how the votes really effect your rating

Not sure of the actual point totals....but figure it this way.

5 ratings. figure 1 star is 1 point. 5 Stars is 5 points.

Bob has 10rated postson him ranging like this.

3,4,2,5,1,5,5,1,2,4

Add them up and divide by 10.

Average rating is 2.7.

Joe has 11 rated posts...and for the sake of the argument....his are all the same, but has 1 more 5 star.

Average rating is 2.9

Now figure this in the hundreds of posts.

Say Mike has 100 ratedposts...and assume the total points adds up to 270

Still has a 2.7 rating.

Mark has 101 rated posts and assume the same as Joe. Just one more 5 star rating.

Average rating is 2.72

On the flip side Steve has 101 posts and they are all the same as Marks, but the last one was one starred

Rating is 2.68.

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ARC_Casper

Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:58 am

#262

Did Garva say this was going in today? or did he mean that some new info was coming today?

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DaBudo2

Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:05 am

#263

RazerWolf wrote:
I like the system, but I have a realitively low star ranking, at "only" 3.3. Starsider has a problem with one-star bandits, even threads posted in memory of players or players family who have died get one-starred. Posts get one-starred somply because they're RP posts. Plus what happens if someone has a grudge against me and goes round one-starring, as has happened before?

"...Additionally we are putting measures in to be able to track and even "title" these posters so everyone will know who they are. When we findsomeone who abuses the rating systemwe do lower their "rating" weight to prevent abuse."

Note especially the last sentence. I think the one star nazis are more common thanadmin thinks, but as I posted previously, I believe there are enough responsible and mature folks on the board to make up for them. Also, if I understand this correctly, those who abuse the system will have less of an impact on your rating than everyone else.

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Arg0nus

Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:11 am

#264

ARC_Casper wrote:

Did Garva say this was going in today? or did he mean that some new info was coming today?

He said more info coming by the end of the week.

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ARC_Casper

Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:17 am

#265

Arg0nus wrote:

ARC_Casper wrote:

Did Garva say this was going in today? or did he mean that some new info was coming today?

He said more info coming by the end of the week.

Cool thanks =)

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groovysplat101

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:15 am

#266

Rather than a posting average...why not base it off the number of stars you've been awarded (total)? So if someone awards you a 1-star, it still adds positive. It'd kill of the ninja-stars, and would also mean you can't loose your star rank. If, for example, 5 people thought my idea was great, I might get 25 stars out of the mix. If someone doesn't like the idea, I get no stars. If someone thought it was a nice idea, but flawed, maybe 1 or 2 stars. It would make the star system far more versatile, rather than having 5 "I like you" stars, or 1 "I hate you" star.

I get why this is happening, though. They're trying to cut down on trolling. It you say nice things, and people think "hey, that's a nice thing to say!", you get a higher star rank. But you're underestimating the ninjas. I had a perfect 5-star rating a few days ago...now its dropped to a 3, merely because a few people didn't like an idea, and 1-starred me every time I posted anything...

Nice system, but the star ranks are a little too fickle. If you achieve something, it shouldn't be taken away...especially not by a few malicious people with over-active clicky fingers.

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Arg0nus

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:18 am

#267

groovysplat101 wrote:

Rather than a posting average...why not base it off the number of stars you've been awarded (total)? So if someone awards you a 1-star, it still adds positive. It'd kill of the ninja-stars, and would also mean you can't loose your star rank. If, for example, 5 people thought my idea was great, I might get 25 stars out of the mix. If someone doesn't like the idea, I get no stars. If someone thought it was a nice idea, but flawed, maybe 1 or 2 stars. It would make the star system far more versatile, rather than having 5 "I like you" stars, or 1 "I hate you" star.

I get why this is happening, though. They're trying to cut down on trolling. It you say nice things, and people think "hey, that's a nice thing to say!", you get a higher star rank. But you're underestimating the ninjas. I had a perfect 5-star rating a few days ago...now its dropped to a 3, merely because a few people didn't like an idea, and 1-starred me every time I posted anything...

Nice system, but the star ranks are a little too fickle. If you achieve something, it shouldn't be taken away...especially not by a few malicious people with over-active clicky fingers.

It's an average of the rated posts. not all posts.

I have over 1000 posts...but not all of them are rated. Most...are basically ignored. lol Only the ones that are RATED count on the Star Titles.

Read my previous post about the ratings and averages.

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bigbuddah

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:26 am

#268

Well, this sounds like an interesting idea. I hope everything goes well with it.

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Wytaki

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:29 am

#269

How about a Ranking increase for those of us that only post when there is something to say, that hasn't already been said 15 times. But sits here faithfully and reads all the messages ?.

GarVa

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:30 am

#270

Ok keep in mind this next list has not been approved by TH (he's out of office until next week) but it addresses concerns some of you voiced.

It has alloted for No post requirements, post requirements, time playing, post rating all in one.

The ranks are in ascending order, meaning the rank at the bottom over-rides the rank at the top, same goes for anything in between, rank 21 overrides rank 22, 23 overrides 22, etc.

Required for rank 1 (Member same as current) 1 month minimum

Required for rank2 (Community Member same as current) 1 month minimum 50 post (Edit Granted)

Required for rank3 (Sr.Member)2 month minimum(Edit Granted)

Required for rank4 (Sr. Community Member)2 month minimum75 post

Required for rank5 (Contributor)4 month minimum

Required for rank6 (Community Contributor)4 month minimum100 post

Required for rank7 (Veteran) 6 month minimum

Required for rank8 (Community Veteran same as current) 6 month minimum125 post

Required for rank9 (Guide)8 month minimum

Required for rank10 (Community Guide)8 month minimum175 post

Required for rank11 (Elder same as current) 9 month minimum

Required for rank 12 (Community Elder same as current) 9 month minimum250 post

Required for rank13 (Advisor)10 month minimum

Required for rank 14 (Community Advisor)10 month minimum300 post

Required for rank15 (Leader)12 month minimum

Required for rank16 (Community Leader same as current)12 month minimum350 post

Required for rank17 (Advocate) 14 month minimum

Required for rank18 (Community Advocate) 12 month minimum 2.7 starrating750 post

Required for rank 19 SWG Crewman 16 month minimum (Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank20 SWG Petty Officer 18 month minimum

Required for rank21 (Pilot)12 month minimum3.0 average rating 50 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank22 SWGChiefPetty Officer 24 month minimum

Required for rank23 SWG Ensign 28 month minimum

Required for rank24 (Squadron Leader)16 month minimum3.1 average125 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank25 SWG Second Lieutenant 30 month minimum

Required for rank26 SWG Lieutenant 36 month minimum

Required for rank27 (Wing Commander)20 month minimum3.2 average rating250 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank28 SWG Commander 40 month minimum

Required for rank29 (Jedi)24 month minimum3.5 average rating500 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

Required for rank30 SWG Captain 48 month minimum

Required for rank31 (Master Jedi)48 month minimum4.0 average rating 1000 post (Gold Officer insignia appears)

The star ratings for those few ranks is based on what people have so far and what is possible, as you can see its used sparcely and does not grant much more than title changing, there is a similar unranked title. Also yes, the star ranked "officer" ranks kick in faster than the regular ones.

The system will change when we are done with it, no specific date yet other than soon. And remember I do not work on the programming of the game, sorry, or I would be doing that.

Message Edited by GarVa on 08-20-2004 09:42 AM

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TauronOrome

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:31 am Post subject:

seems like an interesting idea to get people to post more intelligent things. I hope it works out.

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leeds

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:33 am Post subject:

This sounds intresting to me. I always wondered how whe ranking system worked. Not sure if this is asked or not since there are too many pages to go through.... If we qualify for a normal level and a lower star level, will any specials attached to that star level be available?

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:34 am Post subject:

If i could fix it it would be done already, please stay on topic. as a note though, I have not had to log in since monday, you may want to check your personal internet security settings. Anything above normal does not allow for auto login on most computers using IE.

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:41 am Post subject:

We want our GATer title.

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:43 am Post subject:

Sorry there will be no special spamming title

Oh forgot to add, anyone with a special title will keep it, those are all ranked above this whole tree.

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Limbonik

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:45 am Post subject:

I'd like multiple title options at the top levels. I do not want to be rewarded with a title that says Jedi...ever.

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:46 am Post subject:

this is quite interesting!

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Limbonik

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:53 am Post subject:

You know, I just had an idea: Why don't we have titles based on faction? I'd much rather be a Moff than a Jedi. Hell, I'd even take freakin' Surface Marshall.

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:29 am Post subject:

I LOVE the forum revamp ideas. Goovy, man. Outta sight!

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:47 am Post subject:

I'm for getting rid of the star ranking system all togehter. In my experience, people tend to star rate posts based on whether they agree with them or not, instead of rating them on how constructive and/or appropriate they are. I've read (and wrote) what I thought were fantastic posts that got one or two stars because the ideas contained within were unpopular. I think each forum member should be able to judge for themselves the merit of a post without having some abritary star rating effect their judgement.

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Sengis

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:48 am

#271

I think that this is a good idea, though I do think that HIgh posters, are an integral part of forum community, whilst, I cna see that trolling isnt necessarily to be necouraged, people cna participate, with 'semi frivolous' posting, and add to the community vybe. Also general forum regulars input would be useful for 'honourary awards. Like Most colourful, (im thinking of a particular poster)

You must be able to tell out of a 1k posters posts, how many are trade, and how many are specific to their home galaxy, or proffesion, thus enabling some sort of weight to be added to their opinions of the other posters.

I think that star rating should be visible below your standard rating, asits highly likely that High basic level ranks, will qualify to varying levels of the lower star ratings, by experience.

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Rikilii

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:53 am

#272

Rikilii wrote:

If i could fix it it would be done already, please stay on topic. as a note though, I have not had to log in since monday, you may want to check your personal internet security settings. Anything above normal does not allow for auto login on most computers using IE.

Message Edited by GarVa on 08-20-2004 09:41 AM

Sorry, I'm just bitter 'cuz my fingers hurt from typing in my password every 5 minutes

I had the same thing for a while -- it kept me logged in even after shutting down my computer, but yesterday and today, it seems worse than it ever was.

ON TOPIC: If you're going for a ranking system based no the star system, that's a fine idea, but there should be a way to discount the effects of 1-star ninjas, and 5-star bots, maybe limit the number of each star rating you can apply each day, or revoke starring privileges from anyone who abuses it by giving toomany 1-stars or too many 5-stars.

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Fezzig

Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:04 am

#273

GarVa wrote:

It has alloted for No post requirements, post requirements, time playing, post rating all in one.

The ranks are in ascending order, meaning the rank at the bottom over-rides the rank at the top, same goes for anything in between, rank 21 overrides rank 22, 23 overrides 22, etc.

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't this read:

It has alloted for No post requirements, post requirements, time playing, post rating all in one.

The ranks are in ascending order, meaning the rank at the bottom over-rides the rank at the top, same goes for anything in between, rank 22 overrides rank 21, 23 overrides 22, etc.

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