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Thread: Membership has Its Rewards!

Hegnauer
Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:21 pm
#274






Kaessa wrote:





Hegnauer wrote:

I really wish it wasn't a 'per account' deal. It doesn't seem fair to those who have their fiance or little brother play on their account. Rewards should be per character, and non-tradeable







You aren't supposed to have more than one person playing on a single account, so I'm sure they're not going to allow for that.





DeQuosaek
Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:42 pm
#275






Hegnauer wrote:






Kaessa wrote:





Hegnauer wrote:

I really wish it wasn't a 'per account' deal. It doesn't seem fair to those who have their fiance or little brother play on their account. Rewards should be per character, and non-tradeable



You aren't supposed to have more than one person playing on a single account, so I'm sure they're not going to allow for that.









It's true, but...


*pssst...*
/whisper I don't think they really mind that much. But you didn't hear that from me.






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•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

Kaessa
Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:04 pm
#276


DeQuosaek wrote:


Hegnauer wrote:


Kaessa wrote:


Hegnauer wrote:
I really wish it wasn't a 'per account' deal. It doesn't seem fair to those who have their fiance or little brother play on their account. Rewards should be per character, and non-tradeable

You aren't supposed to have more than one person playing on a single account, so I'm sure they're not going to allow for that.



It's true, but...

*pssst...*
/whisper I don't think they really mind that much. But you didn't hear that from me.





/whisper They may not "mind", but I'm pretty sure they're not going to make allowances for it, either.

Message Edited by Kaessa on 02-03-2005 10:06 PM



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Starcasmd
Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:25 pm
#277




Calandryll_SOE wrote:





BHM wrote:

Can we have a clarification about weapons?


-They can't be insured but you said that we can use the no decay item on weapons


-If that is the case, will it stop battle decay? Because they don't decay upon cloning.


In my opinion the rewards should be non-tradable but it makes no sense that you only get 1 per account. If they aren't tradable (like mark of hero ring) there's no cross-server trade problem.. yet it allows those who play on more than one server to actually enjoy the rewards.


Anyway, they should really be non-tradable: everyone is worrying about no decay items used to save the condition of exceptional weapons, but in the other hand if they are tradable one could keep a BE suit with skill mods forever.. which would once again raise the price of CAs.





-Correct. The anti-decay kit can be used on weapons.


-Yes, it stops battle decay.


As far as the items being tradable, remember you'd have to actually find people willing to part with their rewards. While there will be some people willing to do that, I don't think it will be the norm. Especially for the 6 and 12 month rewards.








Sorry to say it won't be that uncommon. Especially for veterans. A new player won't get 3-4 accounts to start off. But most veterans I would say are managing at least 2 accounts by now and have access or the ability to gain a few more. I played with a few that had about 8 accounts at one time. Not everyone quit SWG in my PA when WoW or EQ2 came out. They put their accounts up for adoption. Now that SWG is on the Station Access those guildies are coming back meanwhile all of those accounts were accruing time towards veteran awards because they remained active.


The whole purpose of a PA is to pool resources and work as a team. If many are going to pick the anti-decay device, a community effort will be in place to ensure maximum result. And because these are tradeable, well need I say more? ThePA's that have the most accounts and that have been around since launch will benefit most from this. I'm not sayingPA's will have 30 anti-decay armor suits at their disposal. But gathering 2-3 suits with a few anti-decay krayt weapons is definately achievable without lots of credits or cross server trades (which were diminished when you made them "by account"). And those accounts that aren't at the 12 month milestone... will be eventually. So there's a few more devices. Keep adding these devices and the economy of the WS and AS will be affected. People do drop their professions and trade their weaponry and armor.


My suggestion would be to remove this item. The decay on items forces a demand for new armor and weaponry. Take that away then it's just EQ in space no matter what milestone its set at.




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jkbond
Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:13 am
#278

I'm just going to throw this out here, not sure if its been posted already and I really don't wanna start anything serious, just giving a suggestion cause I think many people would like it.


Since Jedi do not buy weapons, and we create our own lightsabers, and they require crystals/pearls to operate efficently with them, why couldn't those be enabled to use an anti decay kit? I see why everyone would need them for weapons and armor, but since our crystals and pearls decay very fast and require new ones every couple weeks, could we have anti kits useable on crystals and pearls?


I realize the devs don't want us paying outrageous prices for these items, but that is the case and usually they go for millions of credits, now with the krayt increase, this is a little easier, but I personally haven't seen a huge spawn increase. Could you please reevaluate and look over again before deciding anti-kits can't be used on crystals and pearls since we have to replace them often and are unable to buy them from vendors without using huge amounts of money.


Thank you for all you're doing.




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Braydin
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:08 am
#279






Starcasmd wrote:

I fixed my post when I saw that weapons are included. The request for a Dev response is not so muchfor which items, it's how will the anti-decay device work. Does it apply to any and all decay or just after death cloning decay? Although it may not be common there are ways to get full anti-decayarmor suits through lure of credits, a few alts, and a PA effort. You'll just have to browse the Trade Forums to see the requests. I know I will be able to get 2 of these from the 2 accounts that I own. I have a wookiee so that's a big part of our armor. If I can swing 1 or 2 more pieces I'll never buy armor again!






As a wookiee armor decay is nasty.. first you gotta find a smith that makes the stuff, on Sunrunner this in and of it self is an epic quest some times. Second the chest plate is head and chest so it takes huge amounts of damage. I go thru a chest plate a week and thats with repairing it atleast twice. If this freezes decay I will be at the armor smith buying a brand new suit of armor right away and getting it all sliced, which means I will likely be spending alot of credits right off the bat to get the exact slicing i want. Then I will us my 2 accts rewards to get kits to freeze all decay on the chest and legs. Then all thats left are wrists and they arent near as expensive to get as the 2 main pieces.



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ITALi0n
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:34 am
#280



Vash72 wrote:


Calandryll_SOE wrote:


SonGouki wrote:
1) Will the 6 month reward, "Crate of any existing resource (30k)", include all resources that have ever spawned or just current ones?
2) Will the 12 month reward, "Anti decay kit for 1 item", work for Crystals/Pearls?
Thanks



1. It's any resource spawning at the time.

2. The anti-decay kit only works on weapons and items that can be insured.



for those saying it does not work on weapons. This makes me think that it stops all "battel decay" which i think is a common question so far.

dev responce please






Yes please, tell us how the antidecay kit is going to work, if it's going to have any restriction or it will just make a weapon like a mabari belt, with no condition at all. If it's going to be a permanent mod, or just for some time (or uses).









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Czar_Tim
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:59 am
#281

*gasp* a dev made a mistake, thank God they didnt promise an update o a profeession similar to smuggler and still havnt diliverd. that would be tradgic.



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Barb-Wire
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:59 am
#282






Calandryll_SOE wrote:

Ah drat! Yes you are correct, I misread his post. You can get someone to trade items with you, but since it is only ONE item per milestone per account you'd have to find someone willing to give up a reward choice. Sorry about that.





technically they wouldnt be giving up a reward by using a different tier to swap for one in a cross shard trade. but thats an aweful lot of trust in someone you prolly dont know...




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DMSL
Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:48 am
#283

Make these rewards per character.


The harvs and the anti-decay kit are bad ideas. Will give people with multiple accounts a huge advantage.


IMHO multiple accounts per player are bad too and should no longer be accepted. This is a multiplayer game after all.


Aurelius_Pendragon
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:13 am
#284



DeQuosaek wrote:


Aurelius_Pendragon wrote:


DeQuosaek wrote:


Leezeldafuz wrote:
Alright, fine. Different scenario. Say I have two characters, on different servers, on the same account, and I play both of them regularly. Same principle.

Pick one of those two characters. He/she gets the reward. That's the way it has to be.



Perhaps the way it is, but certainly not the way it has to be.

Devs gave all characters holocrons, not just one per account. All characters could get Life Day presents, not just one per account. (And if I recall correctly, originally only one Jedi was supposed to be possible per account, and now every character can aspire to become a Jedi.)

I hate to seem ungrateful when this is such a wonderful gift. But because it is such a wonderful gift, limiting them to one per account just causes so many problems for families.

But then all 8 of my characters will have a reward and I can trade with people on other galaxies and have 8 gifts for my character for each milestone. That would saturate the game with these items and dramatically decrease the value or 'uniqueness' of these items. (much like it did with Holocrons, Life Day gifts, anniversary paintings, etc, etc.) They wouldn't be much of a wonderful gift anymore. They would be commonplace.

Maybe it doesn't have to be that way, but it ought to be that way.




Well, I just don't see that as much of a problem. What I see as a problem is fighting over who gets the goodies.



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Kevie
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:20 am
#285

my account was started the day of launch and had a few month hiatus and just recently (about two or three days) was cancelled by mistake...... will my account be considered only a couple weeks old?




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Aurelius_Pendragon
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:37 am
#286



Kaessa wrote:


Hegnauer wrote:
I really wish it wasn't a 'per account' deal. It doesn't seem fair to those who have their fiance or little brother play on their account. Rewards should be per character, and non-tradeable





You aren't supposed to have more than one person playing on a single account, so I'm sure they're not going to allow for that.


So I was supposed to tell my kids "Sorry this is my game, you aren't allowed to create any characters of your own" ????

I don't think so.....any more than I can say "All the veteran goodies are mine, mine MINE !!!!!"



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