Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10 Feedback: Jedi Revamp Part 2, The Jedi Trials
MaxTFury
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:16 pm
#261
Being someone who is just has a faint sense of the force. Does anyone know without a shadow of a doubt, what do I do next? Do I grind more profession, Do I do more random quest for badges, What?
Renairdor
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:17 pm
#262
Renairdor wrote:
My Jedi (Dark Jedi Knight) was allowed entry into the village. It was surprisingly quiet. No other players there. Is this place instanced or something?
Talked to the first person I met and he gave me a quest to rescue villagers. Then I talked to other NPC's and found the Elder gave me a force crystal 'journal'. Neat stuff.
I followed the WP, it then generated a new WP to search. I went there. A small delay occured while some sith and a villager spawned in. It wasn't hard as a Jedi Knight to defeat the 4 NPC spawns. Each had some sort of special resource as loot. That was tough for me since my robes have no carrying capacity and I'm loaded with sabers and foodI put on a backpack, wandering around mostly unclothed lol.
The problem: The villager spawned INSIDE the tree. I could not talk to him. I tried /conv. I logged out then back in. The tree disappeared- along with the villager! The WP remained. I went back to the guy giving the mission, he still says I should be looking. I deleted the WP to try and reset things. It did not matter. Now I don't have a WP at all.
I logged a bug and put a CSR request in. Now giving it 20 mins to log in again , fresh, and see if things reset. But this wasn't asmooth first experience
Ren
Ok update- logged out for 20 mins, and it reset things. I could restart the mission. Completed it 5 times without incident, then after completing it- I get a 'congratulations' message, the reward (segment 3 of an Aurelian Sculpture and a FS line unlocked - Survival Enhanced Reflexes.) I can't take any other missions.
Logging out again for 20 mins... see if that resets things.
Ren
LunisLeova
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:21 pm
#263
Ok, devs, u really **edit**ed up big time. It seems as though everyone is upset with the **edit** hole update, might as well just get rid of it, ur truly screwed the jedi profession and made almost everyone in the entire freaking game hate u all. Hope you all have a wonderful day fixing the **edit** u screwed up.
- WHOEVER AGRES WITH ME SAY YES!!!!!!
JenniferH
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:38 pm
#264
Ok, firstly though I'm not a hologrinder and haven't even considered working to Jedi till recently, I'd like to add my voice to the "Just give them their Jedi!" call. They worked hard, they were told they'd get it, and they deserve it.
That said I'd like to put over a couple of points from a person just starting the process from scratch.
I like the fact that it's not more content based, but having to do content badges, with most content being combat based to a degree, totally locks out the non-coms again.
I thought the idea was that the play would not need to change their template.
Next, once all "glowy" and getting visited by the no infamous old man, you will be attacked by two weak sith. Well, unless this sith is weaker than your avarage chubba, then the non-coms are out again.
Then, once finally through all that and in the village, you need to unlock your trees via quests, then use fill those trees using skill points.
Again, I thought the idea was to not change our template. Most established chars will have to bin a fair number of skills to do this.
Then at the end of this, we recieve a robe, an extra toonm slot on that server, and we are sent on our way.
At this point I finally get to throw away all of my fs skills, re-learn my standard template and finally start the process of turning my unlocked slot into a jedi (from scratch).
Not the best move there guys. But rather than moan, I'm going to make some suggestions.
1. How about creating some more content that is eligable for non-coms but still hard, allowing them to become "glowey" without fighting or being dragged on missions by a combat type.
2. The Trials of the old man... Would it be possible for the system to assess a char for combat skills, and if they are not present, offer them an alternative path to the village, say the doctor being called in to save a dying young man named "luke", or the droid engineer who must urgently help get vital information out of a droid. You see what I'm getting at, not only helpful to non-coms, but immersive too.
3. The simplist one here, unlock the second char the first time someone talks to the right person in the village, giving them the option to move forward with the quests with the new or old char (but not both, if you elect to use the new char, you lose the gloweyness on the old one and it is passed to the new. And just as an aside, i'd only allow one of the two to become a jedi. Two jedi's on the one account, that's just getting sick.
Last point. factions. I'm an imperial baddie, and proud of it! I'd more likely be cheering for the sith rather than fighting them! Again, making the old man trials (for want of a better phrase) faction aware would go a long way to making the whole experience more immersive.
Well, I hopfully this is constructive and someone upstairs takes note.
I'alia Master ID (Intrepid)
Guin Master Doc/ TKA (Infinity)
Estanbrooke
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:54 pm
#265
Personally i'm so very confused, first you guys say we will have to do a quest, now I have to wait on some old bum to come and visit me and give me a spoon test? I'm so confused on whats going on, I say we cancel publish 10 roll back and allow holo-gridining again, atleast then unlocking your jedi worked and now with pub 9 jedis work so all would be well with out the fact that you can now holo grind, and recieve your char, nuts to the old man, do a roll back, who's with me? anyone anyone?
Whitt2k
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:05 am
#266
Ok. heres the deal. Now, granted, Some people may dismiss me as a loser or as a geek. But I love Star Wars. Thats why I have been playing this game for over a year. From the time I started I thought that even having an option for players to go jedi was...at best...ridiculous. No matter how hard it was to get to Jedi. Why? Because in the Time period that Lucasarts set SWG in there were only 3 known Jedi(Obi-wan, Vader, Emperor Palpatine) I'm excluding Luke because he was not a jedi yet and Leia because she didnt even know she was force sensitve yet. So get off my back. Anyway, the system was already faulted. But Like I said I love Star Wars so I have played it. Now, for the last 5+ months they have been focusing on a Profession that was never even supposed to exist in that time period. How many of you artisans, Smugglers and BH's, Etc. know there are obvious problems with your profession? How do you feel about Lucasarts only focusing on what appears to me to be only about 1% of the player population? We pay money too. And I can gaurantee all of the professions combined over the jedi pay a LOT more in comparison! Thats like everyone in america Voting and then the government saying..."Well, this election only Rhode Island's Votes count, the rest of you make sure you vote in 4 years and MAYBE we'll pick your state to be the lucky one!" So...I gaurantee if our economy worked like that everyone would move to canada. So I suggest to you SWG players. Do what I'm doing. Still love Star wars, Still watch the movies and read about it constantly. But go buy a copy of "city of heros" like I did 30 minutes ago and let the Jedi get their money's worth. Adios SWG, it was nice knowing you while it lasted.
Shadowmourn
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:14 am
#267
Ok, So here is my semi-rant.
I have been playing since a couple of weeks after launch. When I saw the game in the store I, like many others,thought to myself "hey, I bet I get to play a Jedi". Well, as all of you know, when I got the game home...NO JEDI. So, I thought "ok" I can tough it out and mabye they will add them" so,
I waited....
Then, months later, lo and behold the first jedi appreared and everyone scrambled to find out the path to the force.
Noone seemed to know, at first ,or for weeks.. so,
I waited...
Then the worst thing ever happened "the HOLOGRIND"... 30 professions later and an UNLOCK, I finally realized my goal was near when I got the message "you now feel atuned to the force. Your force sensitivity will be unlocked in patch 10" (or something to that effect) so,
I waited...
I logged in today, full of renewed hope that Iwould now be able to play a jedi, and yes play as in RPG. At first I looked around and could not find out the deal, then I checked the boards and found out the truth... SO SO SAD.
And now after a full year of play I am left waiting again...
I am not one to say I will quit or cancel my account buy I can tell you honestly that I personally know a few people who have quit over this... And I really have to say comming from someone who hasactively played in nearly every major MMORPG, if only briefly, this is the worst Dev to Community communication I have seen. As so many others have said, had we known some of details yesterday the disappointent could have been eased, somewhat. PLEASE MAKE THIS RIGHT!
Thanks
"30 profs, "glowie", 75+ badges, Unlocked, and NO JEDI"
-MG
Jedi, Bounty Hunter
cyman31
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:16 am
#268
Heres what concerns me.. i have mastered 30 profs so maybe have 1 hidden prof remaining which would grant me instant access.. or at worst have 2 hidden profs left putting me into group1 for the old style unlocking..
I am also glowing with the force and have been for along time it would seem as i havent undertaken getting any poi badges or doing theme quests for 1 month now..
So which is it... am i now in a group for doing what the game wanted me to do to get jedi.. and getting to 30 profs ..
Or because i am glowy and was way b 4 the patch was released am i granted instant access...
Or are you just trying to cover your backsides again by saying the old man will visit in 1-3 days (after you have managed to work out why he isnt anywhere to be seen )
The reason of thesethreads is so that you can at least answer some of our concerns.. not so that you can sit back laughing at us and give us no information what so ever..
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EIASNEUV
A DISILUSIONED GRINDER
EUROPE-INFINTY
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EIASNEUV A DISILUSIONED GRINDER
EUROPE-INFINTY
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Message Edited by cyman31 on 09-01-2004 09:19 AM
EggyNSassy
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:20 am
#269
this whole old man thing has me confused as hell, ok here's my deal, I didn't holo grind, never did a single holo, my first was armorsmith, I didn't do it, but did master 7 other professions, today I log in and do /check and get back "You feel an inner glow, the force is with you" or something like that. Now does that qualify me for the 1-3 days bit? or do I have to wait for group 2-3-4?
PyroFreezor
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:26 am
#270
Thunderheart wrote:
Feedback Request:
- If you finished 32 professions before publish 10, how many days went by before the old man visited you?
- What happened when the old man visited you?
- What did you do once the old man visited you?
Thanks!
If you had put the old guy in the TC rather than dumping it on us without any warning you would have this feedback, and would not need to treat the live servers like the test server.
Anyway... to everyone else... I don't thinkwe are getting anything for your badges other than professions mastered, I can only speak for myself but,I only have 5 POI badges, (Tusken / Krayt / Dath Sarlacc / Theed Falls / Marauder Base) and I have 0 theme park badges. I do have 30 professoin badges, and I did not unlock during publish 10.
/check says... "You feel and inner glow. The force is with you."
So well, all you people with 75+ badges and like 10 profession badges. I think it just looks like u get credit for only what professions you have done that matched you holocrons and silent professions.
Personally I would have to agree, getting 75 odd badges just for traveling from POI to POI and gettting jedi credit for them is wishful thinking on your part.
*Awaits to be flamed*
Tanker.
Maisland
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:28 am
#271
I want this answered also. I do not want a Jedi, but I DO want a second character slot. Am I going to have to use skill creditsI can't spare from my template andtrain Jedi skills that I do not want just to get that second slot?
Cafa wrote:
The rules, as PUBLISHED, apparently have changed again with no notice or discussion.
I quote from the Jedi ARCHIVES Vol. 3:
If I complete the Force Sensitive quests after publish 10 and open up my Jedi slot, will my main slot or my second slot be Force Sensitive?
After Publish 10, "Trials of the Jedi", a player's Main Slot will become Force Sensitive. At this point, a second character slot will open up. You may choose to develop your main character as a Jedi Knight or you may use your second character slot to develop as a Jedi Knight (thus being able to leave your main character in tact), but you will have to complete the quests from the beginning with the second character.
Now we get from TH:
When you become Padawan, you will be given your Jedi robe and your additional character slot will open up. This character can be used in any way you see fit, including developing him into another Jedi.
There is a MAJOR CHANGE HERE. I do not want my main character to become a Jedi. I just want to open the slot and run the new guy through the trails again. My main character has over a YEAR of development behind him. When the rest of the holo-grinders were basically doing everything possible to kill this game I was developing communities of people to have a strong playerbase on Tempest. Are you now telling me I can only have a second slot IF I destroy everything my crafter is and become a Padawan?
Fivo Asia
Stupmster
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:38 am
#273
this is the best post in the thread, jedi being added is VERY lame.....
hologrinders need to quit whining, it's 3 friggin' days... commando's (and some other profs) have been waiting for a year to be fixed, and we get almost nothing.... but do we whine and complain like this? go look at the commando forums, probobly the most composed forum on the boards (mainly thanks to our AWSOME corrispondents)...yeah, those who holo grinded and unlocked between pub 9 and 10 spent alot of time grinding,and this TINY wait is a little annoying for you, but how the HELL can you call it work?! it's a game for crap's sake!! you didn't work, you played... sure it may have been really boring grinding all those profs, but if you wanted to play a jedi so damn badly play KotOR, jedi academy, jedi outcast etc... and stop saying you got screwed by this 1-3 DAY WAIT... because of the massive outcry of people who wanted to become jedi allthe broken professions got screwedby having to waint MONTHS, not a couple days.... i know ANY wait can be annoying, but seriousy, suck it up and go do something else for a couple days..
hologrinders need to quit whining, it's 3 friggin' days... commando's (and some other profs) have been waiting for a year to be fixed, and we get almost nothing.... but do we whine and complain like this? go look at the commando forums, probobly the most composed forum on the boards (mainly thanks to our AWSOME corrispondents)...yeah, those who holo grinded and unlocked between pub 9 and 10 spent alot of time grinding,and this TINY wait is a little annoying for you, but how the HELL can you call it work?! it's a game for crap's sake!! you didn't work, you played... sure it may have been really boring grinding all those profs, but if you wanted to play a jedi so damn badly play KotOR, jedi academy, jedi outcast etc... and stop saying you got screwed by this 1-3 DAY WAIT... because of the massive outcry of people who wanted to become jedi allthe broken professions got screwedby having to waint MONTHS, not a couple days.... i know ANY wait can be annoying, but seriousy, suck it up and go do something else for a couple days..