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Thread: Publish 7 Feedback: Droid & Droid Engineer Enhancements

Salporin_Wookie
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:54 pm
#14






Animi wrote:

I'm not sure if that stuff works or not, but thanks for stealth-nerfing my prenerf probot.


Prior to the publish my probot was:



  • 40% Resists to All

  • Medium Armor

Now, my probot is:



  • 12% Resists to All

  • No Armor

I don't think it's right for you guys to retroactively nerf legacy items.







this really stinks! I'm a crafter with ZERO combat skills! I've lost track of how many times my probot with medium armor has saved my hide while out doing harvester runs! He certainly could not do much damage, but he was able to tank the attacker long enough for me to get away! I don't use droids for hunting and only used this droid for protection.


Thanks a bunch! now I know I can't be safe out in the wild anymore!





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ReptileSpit
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:58 pm
#15






Nimus wrote:

I agree whit Phryx.


Now why can't we have droiderkas? or similar?


Why not have the figth module visible, like a turrent?








They've actually been trying to put these in game without totally unbalancing the game for months now. Unfortunately, they seem to have reached an impasse.


nolan007
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:01 pm
#16






Ciirybeccaskyr wrote:

DE enhancements huh lol



where are the ones advertised?


Where are the ones that can fight?


Where is any real use for the coolest looking droid and most epencie(ABLL) aside from a crappy 10 item stoage. At leaste make this one hold 30 or so.



Droids are just as useless as before if not more so.








What I don't understand is why the "COMBAT" droids are Creature Level 10 ?


Creature level 10 is about as useful as having a gnort for combat.... CL 10is an outrageous joke as far as combat is concerned for any Novice or higher. It's basically 2 seconds of hassle before they're dead.


Am I missing something?






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phryx
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:05 pm
#17






nolan007 wrote:





Ciirybeccaskyr wrote:

DE enhancements huh lol



where are the ones advertised?


Where are the ones that can fight?


Where is any real use for the coolest looking droid and most epencie(ABLL) aside from a crappy 10 item stoage. At leaste make this one hold 30 or so.



Droids are just as useless as before if not more so.








What I don't understand is why the "COMBAT" droids are Creature Level 10 ?


Creature level 10 is about as useful as having a gnort for combat.... CL 10is an outrageous joke as far as combat is concerned for any Novice or higher. It's basically 2 seconds of hassle before they're dead.


Am I missing something?









Yes youre missing the same thing everyone else is, that is where the heck did SOE get "combat" in Combat Droids from? did they pull it out of thin air? Well i cant answer your questions, maybe a nice developer or someone else employed by SOE can explain it? Pretty please? Pretty pretty please with sugar ontop? Were really anxius to see where the word combat droids came from. I have a kitten at home, but i dont call him a combat kitten because hes growing claws, hes still a kitten without armor and as much fiestyness ass my remote control has on a bad day.



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Tarne_Monter
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:05 pm
#18

On the non-complaining side of things.
When a droid with combat modules is finished being crafted all you get is the HAM and Combat Module Rating in the examine window, and in the final crafing window. It would be nice to be able to see the damage range, to-hit, and attack speed so that customers know what they're buying before they buy it and put it in their data pad, and so DE's can label the droid deeds so people know what they are.



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Animi
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:05 pm
#19






kandee wrote:
Since the pre-nerf probots are now stealth nerfed, were all the people that paid a premium to have one stealth refunded since they have been ruined?







Ha. I wish. I've submitted a ticket, we'll see what bogus answer I get.


And just to be clear, this was a pre-pre-nerf probot. It used to have 3194 HAM with 40% resists and medium armor. Now the resists are crap and there's no armor.


Thanks a ton, SOE.




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JaykLogaan
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:06 pm
#20

All I can say is that if you did the same retroactive nerf to say... a T-21 you'd have a huge portion of the community dropping on you like wolves and a maimed doe. But no its just the DE' and they seem to be getting the real short end of the stick. Maybe if you make some decent combat droids from this point on we can accept that but at the moment it seems the nerf bat has yet another grand slam.



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AudioOrgana
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:19 pm
#21




  • Every player with a droid that had any type of armor has been nerfed, and they are *MAD*.



  • I've made a droids by hand to test them out, but am not doing factory runs until the crafting changes are reverted - not going to get stuck with more useless/less quality stuff over this (like I am now stuck with nerfed droid deeds made pre-patch). It's what we expected - nicer HAM (especially on the LE), slightly higher damage possible on Probots, but it doesn't matter to most people who laugh whenwe explain the situation after theyask what's wrong with the armor when it says Armor Rating : None.



  • The change initially publishedof allowing one creature pet and one droid out at the same time - which would have been our one saving grace - wasn't implemented.



  • It now takes a DE 21 parts to make a Probot now, up from 9. This means costs need to go up - yet you have killed the market we had for them as mini-tanks for some professions with the armor nerf.



  • I haven't made any of the repair kits because no one has wanted any - no one has even shown an interest in what we have to offerand simply offer condolences when they are told the only droid we can make in the wallpaper was the R5 and that yes, armor iseffectively gone for Droids.


Conclusions :


1) Unless you un-nerf the armor, you have killed the attraction of anything but Med and Crafting droids.


2)Any good done with the additional chassi being made combat capable and the stimpacks is totally negated by the armor nerf - people weren't asking to have to continually stim droids, they simply wanted a way to heal one in between battles.


3) Even if it has no better stats than a Probot, please just give us the Droideka art - even if they are as weak as what we have, it would give people SOMETHING to tangibly see as a Droid Invasion.



"They aren't laughing with us anymore. They are laughing at us..."



Audio


Helstrum
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:23 pm
#22

Combat modules are stacking correctly.


Probot with 5 modules is listing as combat level 13 right now, but still able to call it.


Main problem I have seen is due to a lot of confusion produced by that wallpaper and newsletter image that was put out by SOE. All of my customers won't believe me that we didn't get any new droids or any thing better then a level 10 BE pet. A lot of non-DE folks do not seem happy about this. (as is the DE community)


I think you'll be getting an ear full on that screenshot.
ArkonPhoenix
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:23 pm
#23

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Two Thumbs and Two Big Toes down.


No Battle Droids!


No Droideks!


No Super Batlle Droids!


No IG-88's


Not a single new Droid.


Lame!


Lame!


Lame!



I was so looking forward to this, way more than the laughable Imp Crackdown (which is more like the Imp Slap-On-The-Hand-Down). But this has really let me down and shown me that you are not working very well on creating new content for this game.



Now for my Rant:
I get the feeling that this game is like a movie that was a sure sell, it has everything it needs, Great casting, Great Art Direction, Great Cinematography, Great Editing and even a Great Directior and producer. But the reason why the movie flopped is because the studio hired a scriptwriter to re-write a perfect script, and turn it into meaningless, nothing like the original story or feel, direct to video, Costco selling, buy one get 5 free, Tax write-off.


I dont enitrely blame the Development team, but I feel the problems with this game come from the top. Like the old saying "Crap rolls down hill".



And now back to our regularly scheduled program"Holo Grinding". If theJedi system gets the same same treatment, you will loose a loyal customer who pre-paid for this game and has been playing since launch.



:-)





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MainMor
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:25 pm
#24

I agree with Audio, new art would have helped a lot. Even if they were CL 10... at least it would have looked more like a Droid Invasion.

I fear getting online tonight, I will be hiding my Title to help lessen the tells I get.

Begin sarcasm - I would like to thank you for the armor Ninja Nerf - End Sarcasm

And now I am bringing to life my Droid Haiku I posted long ago:

Hi Mister Probot
Fly into Battle, uh oh
Made of Balsa Wood...

and the ever popular

Now Attack Probot
Zap Zap Zap, Lasers Fire Fast
Gnort Laughs, That Tickles



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And I stood with one foot on the shore and one foot in the waves and it was the time between times...
Naufragus
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:30 pm
#25

why does the R3 have better ratings than the Probot...


The R3 is now the most powerful droid we have.


Droids dont do anything new.


No new Chasis


Still no use for 1/2 the droids avaible...



Pretty much nothing in this patch to even warrent calling it a Droid Invasion


SOE has basically hyped a complete lie.
darthfodder
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:31 pm
#26

Thats great, I was a DE from Aug to Dec and finally dropped for the hologrind was about to pick it back up once the publish went through. Looks like I can hold off on doing that, since figuring out what buffs and foods cand do coupled with good armor I use my probots for storage only.


I hope this armor nerf is an accident but I guess it doesnt matter driods are pretty much worthless.


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