Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Jedi Revamp Phase I

Eldrikk
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:21 am
#235







Magdalene wrote:





Borwin wrote:


Make new Jedi choose a faction at character creation and they stick to this faction. This would balance the sides by roughly making them equal in size instead of forcing Jedi to all start out as rebels.



This would not make factions roughly equal in size. The faction bias on some servers is evidence of this.





When it comes to the added number of imperial Jedi being forced into playing rebels until they get apprentice it does. Currently 90% of the Jedi in the game are Rebels this is because of 2 reasons.


1. All Jedi are forced to start out as rebels even though their main was imperial.


2. Light Jedi is considerably more powerful than dark Jedi.





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Magdalene
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:24 am
#236






Eldrikk wrote:




When it comes to the added number of imperial Jedi being forced into playing rebels until they get apprentice it does. Currently 90% of the Jedi in the game are Rebels this is because of 2 reasons.

1. All Jedi are forced to start out as rebels even though their main was imperial.


2. Light Jedi is considerably more powerful than dark Jedi.






But, seeing as existing characters will become force-sensitive in addition to their old professions (by all indications in this thread), it's a moot point. Faction will be preserved.

Eldrikk
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:27 am
#237






Magdalene wrote:





Eldrikk wrote:




When it comes to the added number of imperial Jedi being forced into playing rebels until they get apprentice it does. Currently 90% of the Jedi in the game are Rebels this is because of 2 reasons.

1. All Jedi are forced to start out as rebels even though their main was imperial.


2. Light Jedi is considerably more powerful than dark Jedi.






But, seeing as existing characters will become force-sensitive in addition to their old professions (by all indications in this thread), it's a moot point. Faction will be preserved.





Nope if you read the statement Jedi still wont be able to choose faction until the Knight tree. Therefore the point is still valid.




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RobtheRed
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:39 am
#238

I like it, just get rid of the composite armor and let the jedi craft robes with special protection or somthing. Just an idea.



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RAMBOW
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:49 am
#239

Way to totally bork the game.. the way it sound now Force Sensitivity will not be rare at all.. I seriously think they are trying to ruin this game



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DeanWeaponX
Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:20 am
#240

Yo Dudes how the hell can you lot say the jedi revamp its gona ruin the game i tell you wot ruins the game you holo grinders useing 3rd party programs and game exploits you dont deserve to be jedi and players who do find its to hard and complicated at this time the new revamp is gona be awasome so stop crying! and THUNDERHEART is doing his best so stop geting out your pram and just chill out! keep up the good work THUNDERHEART...!
Nafka_The_hutt
Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:26 am
#241

It would figure that you all start changing things when i have just started holo grinding in any case to all of you who are complaining let me say I understand but remember this:



1. When in the past has SOE or the dev teams for any games including Everquest EVER realy listened to players about there concerns .....granted sometimes they do but usualy its too late by then (like problems in EQ now).


2. Have you ever wrote SOE or DEV teams? they usualy send you a general email they send out to everyone and you rarely get a personal response back.


I guess what im saying is they we are going to have to ride the wave of this change even though many are confused and dont like these changes...just as many of us did with EQ (we can only hope thsi does not become an EQ let down).


I myself am like you and hate riding the wave of change but we have to look at it like this....do we realy have a choice? Sure we could all cancel our accts but the point is they are going to do this weather we like it or not.


If it is a huge mistake we can all sit back and yell at the top of our lugs WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!! oh wait they wont even lisen to us then either.



Oh well i guess I will just ride the wave and try and have fun wich is what the game was ment for...just hope i dont drown



Have fun everyone and I will see you somewhere out there biwan:



Akfan on the Gorath server


Ice-Cold
Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:51 am
#242

Well... am gonna be a Force Sensitive Pistoleer then eh?



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"I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe" ~ Jango Fett
Orfen_135
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:09 am
#243

I really like the quest idea, and a lot of the other ideas... I'm confused at a lot of this stuff, but I will not repeat what people have kept repeating, but I do have one question... when is this happeneing? next month? the month after that? I mean, if I like it, I'll stay on here, but I've been thinking of doing th Matrix Online, if this doesn't work out well... I wanted to know when this is to happen so i can tell what I will do with my char, and what game I will play!




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neelong
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:17 am
#244






DeanWeaponX wrote:

Yo Dudes how the hell can you lot say the jedi revamp its gona ruin the game i tell you wot ruins the game you holo grinders useing 3rd party programs and game exploits you dont deserve to be jedi and players who do find its to hard and complicated at this time the new revamp is gona be awasome so stop crying! and THUNDERHEART is doing his best so stop geting out your pram and just chill out! keep up the good work THUNDERHEART...!






I hate to sound bitter.. but play this game for a few months first. Thunderheart does have a hard job, they really need like 10 thunderhearts. But he is losing is popularity quick with us by not posting the truth.. or the lack of posts overall. He is scared to post now.. he was in an email with someone and stated he didnt like to post because it would get flamed. If he cant take flames from people then he does not need to be in the position he is in. If he cant post what he feels or what we feel.... then I am afraid he needs to find another hat to wear. He is the "Assistant Community Manager". You should be able to communicate effectively to be in this position. Thats just my opinion. If anyone wants a link to the thread where he said he was scrared I can post it.



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majorslappy
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:29 am
#245

Thunderheart


There are a great many good ideas in here. I hope that some of them are addressed and included in the Jedi revamp. I can only ask you to remember that it is not SWG that is driving the Star Wars Universe, but the other way around. Step back from the "we are developing a game" frame of reference and ask yourself, "Does this make sense in a SW movie script?"


Would Luke have to grind through professions to become a jedi? How did he start the path? Hmmm, he sought out a jedi. That jedi began to train him. He went on adventures (quests) with friends and associates. He lost his jedi master and had to find another. More adventures and then the ultimate, he had a task that was his alone. It was unique to him. He had to defeat his own father in combat and most importantly find in the Force the decision to become a jedi in the face of certain defeat by the Emperor.


Doesn't sound like too tough a story to follow. It also doesn't sound like it would be too tough to use it as a launching platform to create content for jedi wannabe's.

As you develop this content, please don't forget that the PvP population is a small portion of the overall population of SWG. Don't make any portion (to include the "end game") about PvP alone. Give those of us who wish to play a jedi as a non-PvP player a chance here too. All the way to the top. In 5 films, you have seen Yoda fight one time. One time. The jedi are not all about combat or even if combat, PvP.


"War does not make one great."


Seems a very wise person said that.



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OSULugan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:30 am
#246

Yup, you've finally done it.


/quit



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majorslappy
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:30 am
#247

Oh and if my point got lost in that last post:


DO NOT make PvP the center point of jedi. PvE is a great game too.



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I don't like pointless grinds.
Thank you for reintroducing decay!!!
I like a complex, immersive world simulation, full of possibilities, challenges and roleplay.
I want a player driven, crafting-based economy.
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