Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10.3 Feedback
Merxion_Levoy
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:34 pm
#222
Tiggs wrote:
Profession: Jedi
All bounty TEFs should now be cleared correctly upon death from a bounty hunter.
This does not work. Tef remains after Deathblow upon rez they can redeathblow BH said he got extra money for second death blow.
This might be an intermittent bug as the next few times I was killed the tef cleared immediately. Latency issue maybe.
Message Edited by Merxion_Levoy on 09-22-2004 05:57 PM
Tokra100
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:35 pm
#223
Thunderheart wrote:
snipaho wrote:
Why not answer the question everyone wants to know?
IS PHASE 2 HERE YET?!?!
We aren't going to say.
A Jedi should know patience...
Ok make me a jedi and I will be happy to be patient with you, but as it is I am not so how about we stop messing each other about and get down to the buisness of you putting phase 2 out so we can all go back to the mad grinding and you can go back to whatever the hell it is you do all day.
Staveeno
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:36 pm
#224
Hey, I have a revelation for you guys, you know why phase 2 questions haven't been answered yet in this thread? Maybe you should read the Title "Publish 10.3 Feedback" Which means to me, what is your feedback, bugs etc. having to do with this hot fix. That is what this thread is for. Where in the original poster's post does it say to provide feedback on stuff NOT in 10.3? I will say it again, and again, how are Devs supposed to get anything done when 90% of there feedback request have nothing to do with what they are wanting info on? I'm sure the Devs are well aware of the FS quest time line, they don't need a 1000 users reminding them on a message thread that was asking for answers on a different topic.
Message Edited by Staveeno on 09-21-2004 04:38 PM
DealBreaker
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:40 pm
#225
Thunderheart wrote:
snipaho wrote:
Why not answer the question everyone wants to know?
IS PHASE 2 HERE YET?!?!
We aren't going to say.
A Jedi should know patience...
In other words....You dont have a clue when it will be active because the bugs arent worked out of it yet.
Tokra100
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:40 pm
#226
Staveeno wrote:Hey, I have a revelation for you guys, you know why phase 2 questions haven't been answered yet in this thread? Maybe you should read the Title "Publish 10.3 Feedback" Which means to me, what is your feedback, bugs etc. having to do with this hot fix. That is what this thread is for. Where in the original poster's post does it say to provide feedback on stuff NOT in 10.3? I will say it again, and again, how are Devs supposed to get anything done when 90% of there feedback request have nothing to do with what they are wanting info on? I'm sure the Devs are well aware of the FS quest time line, they don't need a 1000 users reminding them on a message thread that was asking for answers on a different topic.Message Edited by Staveeno on 09-21-2004 04:38 PM
I agree mate, but there isnt any other area in the 'In Live' forum to post these messages and here just seems the best place to put them. If they want to add a general complaints forum then I am sure we would all be happy to move the complaints to that forum.
Slammer612
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:42 pm
#227
ALL: So when is phase 2 going to be released?
TH: We arent going to say, A jedi needs to know patience
ALL: Ok then what about the combat revamp when will that take place
TH: We arent going to say,The combat professionsneed to know patience
ALL: Hmmmm. Dare I ask about the GCW?
TH: We arent going to say,The people that want to play something starwars have to know patience.
ALL: Ummm ok... Is there anything you are sure of that you can tell us?
TH: The Greatest Saga of all time is now on DVD. Go buy the Star Wars Trilogy.
ALL: Whats that gotta do with the game?
TH: We arent going to say,People that play the game need to know patience
Romado
Message Edited by Slammer612 on 09-21-2004 03:22 PM
Tjak
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:42 pm
#228
Well Staveeno... perhaps if they acknowledged it or said why it was delayed then maybe we'd stop posting.
All it takes is a small bit of info..
The reason people are spamming posts is because they wont even acknowledge it.
Marvin5
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:43 pm
#229
I see that the BH mission payout and jedi xp loss system was made so the jedi/bh dident exploit the system to gain alot of cash, but the stupid part is, now the bountyhunter can choose his targets and we all know that its the low end and medium end jedis thats gonna suffer for this.
Why pick a 250k mission you cannot complete when you can take a 100k mission you easily can take. As all jedis must have24 skill points in FS skills andall jedis worth mentioning have all novice skill boxes, thats 40 points right there, and probably LS 0042 and thats 34 points.
That makes 98 skill points, thats 98k for a kill easier than a sharnaff...
Now, when the BH kills the jedi the jedi looses 196.000 XP, and if the doc wont get there fast enough... thats 200.000 more...totally its 396.000 XP the jedi needs get back. At that level a fair Jedi can get about 200k per buff session, thats 6 hours of gaining the xp back, on that time a BH could easy get 3 more Jedi kills.
The devs missunderstand the players, BH dont hunt for cash, they hunt just for the sake of hunting, it doesent matter if its 14k or 100k.
Is the Jedi in the game for players that have worked hard to gain their jedi to finally play the caracter they want, and to have fun, or are they in the game so the BH can have some content?
Some suggestions:
Make jedi hunting master bountyhunter only
Half the payout for jedi mission
make the xp penalty for death as before, or remove the jedi clone XP loss.
Introduce Knight/padawan system where the knight could protect the padawan, teach skills and gain xp for teahing.
Nerf the spawns at Geolab
If the Jedi is killed by a BH, make so the Jedi is removed from all players as a mission, removes him from the terminal and give him3 weeks of immunity to visibility.
If the BH is killed by a jedi make him suffer a Investigation XP loss and skill loss, plus the Jedi gets the cash for the mission
Give us:
The combat revamp documents
Smuggler revamp (atleast fill in the text for the master smuggler box, is it really so hard?)
A update on the dev cycle, as the patches has shifted this information is vital.
A chance for players to speak up for upcoming changes, or atleast the correspondents.
Listen to the players, we actually play the game, why not use our experience?
You DO know its us that pays your salary?
/Benah
Cassaundra
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:45 pm
#230
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Thunderheart Wrote:
We aren't going to say.
A Jedi should know patience...
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Do me a favor will you? Stop trying to use the characteristics of the Jedi characters incorporated in the movies, and books of Star Wars into this game. Especially when YOU are the ones failing to give information.
Further...since you seem to know what a jedi should, or shouldnt have...I cant remember Yoda telling Luke "The way to the lightside is to go out and kill every living thing that you see..."
Alot of us havebeen patient. Most people arent asking for a whole lot more, than information.
Patient through bugs..patient through failed Jedi systems, patient through lost gear...patient through alot.
If you arent going to give out information...fine say so...but as forposting your views on another persons character traits, (essentially calling people impatient)
keep that to yourself will you?
Saraie
TDevout
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:46 pm
#231
Thunderheart wrote:
We aren't going to say.
A Jedi should know patience...
Jedi should know a working system too, but we don't have that either.
Right now you've rewarded BH's for hunting jedi on a skillpoint per credit basis, and you dock us XP based on the number of points we have into skills, while at the same time you have the skill point costs for skills BACKWARDS.
Do the math - It is both more profitable and more likely for success to hunt BRAND NEW PADAWANS and young jedi than it is anybody else in the game. Does this make sense? When you can get 128k for an automatic kill vs 250k a challenge? You can even chain-hunt them.
Fix it. This is the dumbest non-issue ever.
But don't fix it for me. You're a year late and many dollars short for that. I'll waste no more time here.
Tripp85
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:48 pm
#232
Nadev wrote:Listen Mr Arse.I guess you missed it. so I'll tell you. CSR's Do not Answer Questions, they are here to help enforces the rules for the game, they are NOT here to answer questsion about how to play the game, why something was or was not done, or are they here to play the game for you. If you have questions you bring it to the forums. One of the reason why wait times are as long as they are, is because of people like yourself that do not under stand this.And insist on sending in tickets time and time again asking them Questions about how to play the game or why something was done. They do not know and they should not even tell you if they do know!So as you a jedi you should play the game rather then asking.
First off it's Asre Not arse there is no need to be rude
The Definition of CSR is Customer Service Representitive
The job description of a customer service representitive is to listen to and address customer concerns and complaints therefore it is their job to answer customer questions and if they do not have enough information to answer said question then it is their job to point said customer to whatever authority can answer said question
and if you would read my post you would see that I was not expecting an answer to the question just an acknolladgment of said question. If they couldn't answer it thats fine point me in the right direction instead I and many other people were ignored.
I have never seen anything regarding a Customer Service Representitive being descibed as an official to enforce the rules however I am sure as with any other company that is also a part of their responsibilities.
Please refrain from being rude in the future it is not necessary as I, just like any other customer here was voicing a legitimate concern and do not deserve to have that concern illegitimized by someone.
Viinn Asre
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jr2988
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:51 pm
#233
I don't think you guys get it at all. The whole reason for the gating is to force you to just play the game. No more grinding, no more trying to get to Jedi as fast as possible. You have to wait. In the meantime, just play the game. You guys are all more whiney that Luke in ANH!
Hurricane0
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:55 pm
#234
/cheer x3 .... Twiggy i would just like to echo my agreement and comment that this is probably the best post i have ever read on these forums! thanks!
-Stormy