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Thread: Community Relations Follow-up

jcrules3333
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:09 pm
#222

I think TH already hinted that it would be the first round of CU info.. but don't hold that against either of us if it isn't.



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Calandryll_SOE
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:11 pm
#223






jcrules3333 wrote:
I think TH already hinted that it would be the first round of CU info.. but don't hold that against either of us if it isn't.





Heh. Well we are working on a CU overview update to get things started and serve as a basis for the upcoming Developer Chat and future CU updates. That's in addition to the FF.
kgmkiorys
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:13 pm
#224






Calandryll_SOE wrote:





GrinInc wrote:





Calandryll_SOE wrote:





scall01 wrote:





Calandryll_SOE wrote:



This week's Friday Feature...well let's just say it's very cool and leave it at that.





I'm hoping that was sarcasm.




Why?







Because regardless of the Combat Upgrade, the ground game in general has been ignored as far as FF go for quite sometime and it's something we were hoping would change soon.





Understood. Well I certainly don't want to give away what it is, but I can tell you it's not about JTL.






Great !!! we'll have new forum rankings, or maybe a magnificient HOW-TO change our forum icon...

Or well, why not a very instructive lecture upon the origins of the names of the servers, this one hasn't been recycled for a long time...


Is therea chance you once in a while use this Friday Feature for something useful? You know, for the players, not for the potential customer, yopu may want to advertise and i perfectly understand that, but if you could also show us some features we don't know, that would be greatly appreciated.



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AnXdiety
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:29 pm
#225

Something I am highly curious as to is why there is a need for an NFA regarding the CU documents and its path. The number 1 cause of community discontent is that soo much of the heated debates and issues are around things that are not fully clarified. If you are doing the current Alpha/Beta the same as it was for the expansion then you would already have forums hidden under layers here currently. Why not make those forums read only for all members of the community. Just make sure we sign in and then we could only read the Combat Upgrade forums. This can be accomplished because a month after this game went live these forums themselves were shut off from all public access. Why not do the same thing for the Combat Upgrade rather than having to deal with all the legal issues and NDAs and such?

Let us create our own hype regarding the CU. Rather than having us try to trust you guys when you say things like "This will be cool" we would start our own speculation and build our own hype based on the information. When you had brought all the correspondants in for their free vacation to demo JTL and show them the CU documents they all came back giddy as school kids on a sugar high. The problem is that they couldn't tell us anything. Share the candy and let us all be giddy and discuss the future of the game. The current discussions and debates on most forums are the same cries and lost hope from over a year ago.





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Bisola
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:30 pm
#226

The trolls have taken over! Run!!



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Novock
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:33 pm
#227






Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!






Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!






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Calandryll_SOE
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:43 pm
#228






Novock wrote:





Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!






Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!








I know how to unblock them.


Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.

jcrules3333
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:47 pm
#229



Calandryll_SOE wrote:


Novock wrote:


Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!


Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!



I know how to unblock them.

Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.






/sigh, Well thats all I want for one.... so... hrmm..lets see... Friday.. Man... thats another 3 days /shrug, if I have survived this far not knowing I suppose I can wait another 76 hours or so.



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AnXdiety
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:54 pm
#230



jcrules3333 wrote:


Calandryll_SOE wrote:


Novock wrote:


Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!


Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!



I know how to unblock them.

Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.






/sigh, Well thats all I want for one.... so... hrmm..lets see... Friday.. Man... thats another 3 days /shrug, if I have survived this far not knowing I suppose I can wait another 76 hours or so.




Actually if you read a little closer it shall have to be tomorrow for the overview. Since the chat is scheduled for Wednesday. Unless they drop the overview on Wednesday just before the chat and not leave us more than a couple hours to absorb whatever information they do give us.

To further expand on my previous post in this thread is why are 200+ players elevated above the rest of us that have full access to the documents and the information currently any different from the rest of us that pay the same money per month?





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Novock
Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:56 pm
#231






Calandryll_SOE wrote:






Novock wrote:





Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!






Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!








I know how to unblock them.


Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.






I'll be honest I'm hoping you are taking lead on the issue of communication regarding the CU. It still sounds like you are going to telll us no more than what we have already heard which will be a let down not matter how wonderfully worded it is. If thats the case our hope then is that real information will be quick to follow. We have been waiting since the correspondent summint in August 2004 for details on this revolutionary change to everything we know. renamed in Octopber again left waiting. End of the year came no word nor details again left hanging. End of Deecember comes SOE_Tyrant makes this big studio update and tells us CU details will be coming out in January. I hope you truly understand what we are expecting and desiring and hope that this update will be atleast something of value for our 5 month wait nevermind all the time previous to the summit.


Anyway I'm waiting for you to throw my pessimism out the door and for you to show us the action behind all the talk you have made in the post about changing and communicating better. I am ready to be wrong and desiring to be wrong on this issue. I'm wanting so despreatley to herald your name and SOE be able to look forward again to playing the game as i once did before the Jedi/EQ wars we have now. Make me a believer again Cal!!!







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mturnage
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:06 pm
#232

Hey Jonathan. The high level overview was done here over two months ago. Anything less than details would be pointless.




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Soln
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:09 pm
#233






Calandryll_SOE wrote:






Novock wrote:





Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!






Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!




I know how to unblock them.


Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.






this is a great post


1) an admonition that players are upset, and


2) a frank description of the expectations players should have of the next Fri post, and


3) the commitment to provide a high-level description for our future expectations.


Follow through, and things will turn around. Many thanks, Ilike your approach so far. /salute





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jcrules3333
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:12 pm
#234



AnXdiety wrote:


jcrules3333 wrote:


Calandryll_SOE wrote:


Novock wrote:


Bisola wrote:
The trolls have taken over! Run!!


Too late we have all the exits blocked............... MUHAHAHA!!



I know how to unblock them.

Seriously, as I've said before, I understand that people are upset. The CU update won't answer every question that people have about the CU. It's a starting point that will give a high level overview of where we are headed now and as the basis for future updates that will have more details.






/sigh, Well thats all I want for one.... so... hrmm..lets see... Friday.. Man... thats another 3 days /shrug, if I have survived this far not knowing I suppose I can wait another 76 hours or so.




Actually if you read a little closer it shall have to be tomorrow for the overview. Since the chat is scheduled for Wednesday. Unless they drop the overview on Wednesday just before the chat and not leave us more than a couple hours to absorb whatever information they do give us.

To further expand on my previous post in this thread is why are 200+ players elevated above the rest of us that have full access to the documents and the information currently any different from the rest of us that pay the same money per month?




Ohh, thats right. Thanks! We will talk to ya tommorow then. *grin*



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