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Thread: Publish 6: Released Wednesday Morning

Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:16 am
#222






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:




Yes, some people do things better than other classes and fill differant rolls concerning skill points. What I think you would object to though, is if you were not allowed to fire a pistol as a pistoleer unless you were a certain faction rank then make their skill mods even better than if you had master pistoleer.


A stretch I know, but it is the class defining skill of the pistoleer so having to do that is rediculous, the same applies with smugglers and smuggling. It is our class defining skill so it should not be taken away by a faction rank.






Ok gonna revise that cause when I read it i made little sense.


Master Pistoleers spend many skill points to be the best with pistols. They excel in them.


Then lets say as as perk they give Captain+ in rank for the rebellion the certs to use any kindofpistol, and an even better set of pistol mods than they get at master pistoleer.


Btw I know that smuggler has the best pistol specials, its balanced by our lack of skill mods. May we never get any. Amen.


This is rather silly that a captian+ rank in the rebellion can use any pistol a pistoleer can, and have even better mods isn't it?


It is the class defining skill of the Pistoleers, why should it be given to some rank or another.


So we feel about smuggling. It is not something you gain access to at a rank, it is an ability you work on and spend skill points.


It is also the defining skill of what it is a smuggler does.


So like the pistoleer example, why should we tolerate it being given to a rank in the GCW?






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ArkonPhoenix
Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:21 am
#223

I cant wait, Thanks allot for working hard and putting up with everyone's imapcience here on the forums.


And I think I speak for everyone when I say thanks for removing the (Factional) Decay.



PS: I can post messages again, yeah!






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RougeSmuggler
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:22 am
#224






DanteSkrum wrote:
OK, for reading all the GARBAGE on this thread i need to have a beer. Anyone want me to smuggle one in for ya?







I dunno, are you an Imperial Officer? I wouldn't want my beer confiscated if you were to mess up....




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DanteSkrum
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:27 am
#225

Nah.....i am actually some guy sitting in front of a computer with a beer. I dont like the Empire.........they have issues



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exc
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:44 am
#226

Wooohooohoohooooooooooo.


DEV really begin to rock with this.


When combat system will be balanced it will be perfect.





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AsGoodAsDead
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:49 am
#227



Isure don't hope that the european server will have to wait untill US morning before getting the patch or else it will be taking down the prime time of playing

and it's ok if we get the patch before the americans...after all we did get up 6 hours before them



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Ostracized
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:22 am
#228

To me it doesnt matter if its a group or a single person trying to Smuggle.


If an Imp that is covert BTW (which means HIDING the fact they are an Imp anyway!) gets an immunity to Smuggling... and im a master Smuggler and get busted... its still unbalanced.


Many keep saying "well you cant smuggle now so be happy!" well let me give some mroe examples.


Pistoleer - one of the things they ask for is 2 pistols. they dont want Uberness just the look. SO lets say An Imperial or Rebel can get a 5000fp benifit that lets them equip 2 seperate pistols. Now they also give pistoleers the ability to wield a NEW pistol... which is equivelent to a NON AR1 DX2 in damage and speed.


You think pistoleers are gonna be happy????


Or Image designers that have been hoping for more Body alterations. but for 5000fp a Rebel can change Race and Sex! I mean theya re Rebels... they should be able to disquise right!... Oh but lets not forget the IDers! Lets let them hmm.. change Sex only.


Should the IDers be happy now???


I think the answer from the majority of pistoleers and the majority of IDers will be a resounding NO!



This is whats happening... Smugglers are being given just a peice of actual smuggling content... then seeing the devs hand a whole pie to the Imperials for faction points which can be resplaced...


... my skill points never can!



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Oculus
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:12 am
#229

Well, seeing as the number of Overt Imperials has just skyrocketed in anticipation of the upcoming gank-fest aided by beefed up stormtroopers who don't give FP, I'm glad they managed to get no decay in

And yes, I play on a server with more Imperials than Rebels. Not every server have an Imperial faction that is incompetent in the most Star Warsy GCW Imperial department, propaganda




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Gundarkfarmer
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:34 am
#230

About being scammed, well, the profession is a smuggler.... They can scam people all the time, Here I'll open your container for you (takes out any crystals or other valuable item drop in a 1 unit sample of ore in its place here you go bud). Oh you wnat a slice sure thing... Here is a 35% weapon slice, 3500 credits please or whatever the going rate is you get the weapon back and its a minimum slice if any) sorry man thats what it said... make a csr ticket (*snicker*)


Seems like Sunrunner has a _real_ bad smuggling community.


On another note, yes, sure, I feel a bit cheated when high ranking Imperials is a better "one person smuggler" then me. But hey, atlast we got a role inside a team now as the whole team will gain benefit of our new smugglings skill. It isn't 100% true Star Wars, sure, but as some ppl have said, Han Solo is "smuggling" Ben & Luke around in ep IV. Again what people must come to understand, this isn't true EU canon star wars, it it would have been, Smugglers would smuggle spice, not make it, and same goes for slicing, which is what you do when you hack into computers or security systems. Weaponsmiths and Armorsmiths should be the ones who "slice" armor/weapons anyway.


However, the game is how it is now, we can't make radical profession changes to make all professions more true (more then the smuggler profession that is a bit... out of content of what it really is) so we have to try and make the best of what we have been given.


I am very happy that smugglers get it's first fix right now, and just that makes it easier to ignore the whole"imp high ranking-everybody-is-smuggler" deal. After all, the crackdown can always be harder in the future so that even high ranking imps won't get away scott free.



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ApollyonTB
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:45 am
#231

How can anyone be so blind as to NOT see what is going on here?


Devs implemenet scans, these scans are made by Imperial troops to search for contraband.

A rebel caught and gets a TEF.

An imperial gets caught, and if he has rank, he gets away with it.


So whats the point of even putting this in?


Get Master smuggler and Col in the IMP Army and you are impervious to all scans.


They claim they are adding Smuggler content, but they fix the 'content" in a way that everyone can get away with it...and you dont have to be a smuggler.


So they added content = good, then they added a penalty = good, then they added a way for non-smugglers to get out of it, completely negating the content.


This patch = waste of time.



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mib666
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:51 am
#232

Groan, still babies crying over there precious smuggling skills, GET OVER IT!!!!!



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AlaManQ5
Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:00 am
#233

Hey People!!!! Its called a "CRACKDOWN" for a reason! Smugglers and Rebels are criminals to the Empire, so its only natural for an Empire such as this one would want to viciously limit the activities of said criminals to reinstate some kind of "order" for the common good of the galactic races *insert laughable pah!*


And yes an Imp will be more powerful in some regards then a smuggler who had to invest points. Thats the point, an unfair advantage to the opposing side. The Empire is reinforcing its hold on the galaxy, with a few kicks to its underbelly.


Me, I can't wait for the publish to load. I was happy to see it a day early, I knew something like that would happen.

And this is just a premonition, but i see the Devs pulling a fun surprise on us today. I'm not sure what, but it will be more than they've told us. (I.E. a large force marching into each city today as we wake up our chars and meander about wondering if anything is different, stuff like that...)


WOOT!!!




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Gam8it
Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:06 am
#234




/woohoo;/woohoo;/woohoo

<launch fireworks>


Look ... all you people winging about Imps being immune ..


THEY ARE NOT IT IS DOWN TO RANK AND OOOOOOH WE HAVE TO USE OUR FACTION POINTS UP TO GET UP IN RANK SO IT WOULD APPEAR IT IS NOT A FREE GET OUT YOU FOOLS.


Read theDev Tracker / Test Centerposts FFS


anyway .. should have been imp shouldn't you, the point is that there shouldn't be as many rebels as there are!! so this is going to change that, so the galaxies will start looking the waythey should, less rebels and all you current rebel scum keeping away from the populated imp places!


/woohoo

<another firework>


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