Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
Shropt
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:46 pm
#2237
My bet is tomorrow at 4:30pm, thats TH's favorite time to post.
Also, if you love Taco Bell, check out my petition to delay JTL till we get Taco Bell into SWG.
Raiyne
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:49 pm
#2238
Shropt wrote:
My bet is tomorrow at 4:30pm, thats TH's favorite time to post.
Also, if you love Taco Bell, check out my petition to delay JTL till we get Taco Bell into SWG.
/sign and be full!
Omg! See it's people like you that make it so hard for me to quit...
TheFoolOnTheHill
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:49 pm
#2239
My emtional revamp was scheduled to be handled in the CB patch and as you know that will never happen within the next year.
Terenas
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:49 pm
#2240
Snikrop wrote:
I bet JustG does the posting as he's the one always asking us to leave the emotions at the door. I'll leave mine at the door the day I am certain SOE's put the DEV's where the forum posts by the DEVs say they should be.
Ive left mine at the door, i just think this announcement is the most ridicolous thing i have heard from SOE and TH in a long time and i am just about ready to throw in the towel.
It is unbelieveable that the Devs and SOE cant even attempt to cater to the community's needs. Maybe they listen but they dont care or try.
What a load of crap.
:
oops on Devs::
oops on Devs::
Night_Mayor
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:56 pm
#2241
This is the worst gaiming exp i have ever had.
I am so sorry I ever bought this game it has sucked so much time and money from me I can never get back it makes me sick.
The only reason I still play this game is because of the lies I have been told over and overabout combat revamp, shuttle times being shorter stupid insane holo grind, force powers took away from night sisters for no reason the list goes on and on bike warping food and drink not reseting when you clone, and I was a MBH dont even have to go there.
this is the last straw for me, I just hope like hell someone gets fired, goes bankrupt.
but alas SOE has won the war, they have allready made enuff money off of us and when JTL comes out the pile will just get bigger.
nerfing buffs nerfing armor free jedi robes that dont decay perma death gone, Log off log on log off log on jedi exploit, and the list still goes on.......
Haywood
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:02 pm
#2242
/get water
/drink
/read Jolt Review of SWG
/think "they really shat on SWG"
/back to forums
DarthMinos
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:03 pm
#2243
Well, I don't want anyone to get fired, but I am disappointed that we got no acknowledgment on this topic from JustG or TH today. You would think that after having started this topic so close to the weekend last week, we'd get some more feedback on it this week.
Hopefully, no news is good news, but I somehow doubt it.
Nerj
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:05 pm
#2244
Here is a comment from
garvin wrote:
In light of TH's recently announcement of the CB being delayed again and more promises, I know a lot of you have responded back with "Yeah Sure, why should we believe anything TH or any other Dev has to say..."
Well...there has been something that has been privately discussed for some time now that I finally have permission to reveal it...There is going to be a Corresponent Summit...and best of all...it will be at SOE's Headquarters...
TH and the rest of SOE is going out of his way to showtheir determination at seeing us get the fixes we need for our Communities...So much so thattheyare flying us Correspondentsdown to Austin to discuss it face to face...and it won'twait untilafter JTL...it is tentatively scheduled for end of August...
The main point of this Summit will be to discuss, debate and refine the Combat Balance Master Plan...If all goes well, that means we'll be coming back with...dare I say it...specifics!!!! I will also make it a point to focus directly on all of those other issues that are important to us Commandos...
Personally I think this is a fantastic move on SOE's part...how many other online games out there would go to this degree to speak to it's consumer directly...I only wish I could take all my loyal Commandos with me, but I know you'll all be backing me up in spirit...
Remember, this is tentatively setfor theend of August...the date may change, but TH has said that IT WILL HAPPEN...Closer to that date I will work on refining the issues you all most want to me to drop directly on their desks...
By the end of the Summit, TH and the rest will understand why we say "Diehard Commandos Die Hard!!!"
This is in the Commando Forum.
A Simple acknowledgement of what is happening would have been good "Community Relations". Thankfully, our correspondents are trying to get the info out and the job started. Thank you GARVIN
Hopefully, without any input in the DEVTRACKER from TH today, he is working at handling the current uproar from the community. I would expect a posting concerning this issue and the anger within the community from him within the next couple of days.
Message Edited by Nerj on 07-19-2004 08:14 PM
jalia
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:06 pm
#2245
We are still in BETA. We are Paying for BETA. We are BETATESTERS.
I submit the following example of deductive reasoning for your consideration...
a) The 'Finest MMORPG' gains notoriety as being 'flaky' & 'buggy'with a 'suspect' combat system.
b) Devs aknowledge that the current combat system needs a TOTAL (not partial) overhaul
c) A TOTAL overhaul involves re-writing and replacing most of the code for the combat system
d) The combat system is, along with crafting, ONE OF THE TWO PRIMARY GAME SYSTEMS
e) If a PRIMARY GAME SYSTEM is being COMPLETELY RE-WRITTEN than it will eventually be a DIFFERENT SYSTEM
f) The system we are playing with today is TEMPORARY because it is scheduled to be SCRAPPED
g) Temporary, unfinished software, is otherwise known in this world as BETA.
b) Devs aknowledge that the current combat system needs a TOTAL (not partial) overhaul
c) A TOTAL overhaul involves re-writing and replacing most of the code for the combat system
d) The combat system is, along with crafting, ONE OF THE TWO PRIMARY GAME SYSTEMS
e) If a PRIMARY GAME SYSTEM is being COMPLETELY RE-WRITTEN than it will eventually be a DIFFERENT SYSTEM
f) The system we are playing with today is TEMPORARY because it is scheduled to be SCRAPPED
g) Temporary, unfinished software, is otherwise known in this world as BETA.
I have retrieved the only relevant defenition for the word from dicitonary.com, enjoy:
___________________________________________________
beta
/bay't*/, /be't*/ or (Commonwealth) /bee't*/ n. 1. Mostly
working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'. In
the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software often go
through two stages of release testing: Alpha (in-house) and Beta
(out-house?). Beta releases are generally made to a group of lucky
(or unlucky) trusted customers. 2. Anything that is new and
experimental. "His girlfriend is in beta" means that he is still
testing for compatibility and reserving judgment. 3. Flaky;
dubious; suspect (since beta software is notoriously buggy).
working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'. In
the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software often go
through two stages of release testing: Alpha (in-house) and Beta
(out-house?). Beta releases are generally made to a group of lucky
(or unlucky) trusted customers. 2. Anything that is new and
experimental. "His girlfriend is in beta" means that he is still
testing for compatibility and reserving judgment. 3. Flaky;
dubious; suspect (since beta software is notoriously buggy).
___________________________________________________
Look at definition #3 - Flaky, Suspect, Buggy
Anyone care to argue that this game is NOT flaky, suspect, or buggy?
Still think BETA ended last year?
Think again.....
polurbana
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:06 pm
#2246
It's common business practice to break bad news on a Friday. There's less chance of any kind of fallout when the weekend is there to act as a cooling-off period.
pjmchem
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:07 pm
#2247
with all the locked threads...all I can think about is....
DENNIS:
Ah, now we see the violence(censorship) inherent in the system.
ARTHUR:
Shut up!
DENNIS:
Oh! Come and see the violence(censorship) inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR:
Bloody peasant!
DENNIS:
Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
DENNIS:
Ah, now we see the violence(censorship) inherent in the system.
ARTHUR:
Shut up!
DENNIS:
Oh! Come and see the violence(censorship) inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR:
Bloody peasant!
DENNIS:
Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
RedMangg
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:07 pm
#2248
While waiting, here's another emailto inform a gaming site of SOE's beloved future plans
Although I don't believe they have ran any recent articles... saves boredom while waiting for a response.
Message Edited by RedMangg on 07-19-2004 05:08 PM
RohmEnari
Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:08 pm
#2249
Nerj wrote:
Here is a comment from
garvin wrote:
In light of TH's recently announcement of the CB being delayed again and more promises, I know a lot of you have responded back with "Yeah Sure, why should we believe anything TH or any other Dev has to say..."
Well...there has been something that has been privately discussed for some time now that I finally have permission to reveal it...There is going to be a Corresponent Summit...and best of all...it will be at SOE's Headquarters...
TH and the rest of SOE is going out of his way to showtheir determination at seeing us get the fixes we need for our Communities...So much so thattheyare flying us Correspondentsdown to Austin to discuss it face to face...and it won'twait untilafter JTL...it is tentatively scheduled for end of August...
The main point of this Summit will be to discuss, debate and refine the Combat Balance Master Plan...If all goes well, that means we'll be coming back with...dare I say it...specifics!!!! I will also make it a point to focus directly on all of those other issues that are important to us Commandos...
Personally I think this is a fantastic move on SOE's part...how many other online games out there would go to this degree to speak to it's consumer directly...I only wish I could take all my loyal Commandos with me, but I know you'll all be backing me up in spirit...
Remember, this is tentatively setfor theend of August...the date may change, but TH has said that IT WILL HAPPEN...Closer to that date I will work on refining the issues you all most want to me to drop directly on their desks...
By the end of the Summit, TH and the rest will understand why we say "Diehard Commandos Die Hard!!!"
This is in the Commando Forum.
A Simple acknowledgement of what is happening would have been good "Community Relations". Thankfully, our correspondents are trying to get the info out and the job started. Thank you GARVIN
Message Edited by Nerj on 07-19-2004 08:07 PM
Just more smoke and mirrors. They will say anything at this point to keep us paying to Beta test their game.