Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Weekly Roundtable Discussion (Week Ending 3-29-04)
Thunderheart wrote:
Ragnaat wrote:
You missed the point of the question. IF the mayor is absentee *AND* some other player form the town are also absentee then there is NOTHING that the active players ca currently do about this situaton.
Thunderheart wrote:
How do you vote out a mayor who no longer plays when alot of the town no longer plays?
An incumbent mayor has to run against the absentee mayor and everyone has to vote for the new mayor.
How do you verify that all of these people are indeed AWOL?
Players who are absentee will lose their residency status after several weeks (can't remember how long... seems like there was bug where it was 2 weeks, and at some point it might have been 6, but maybe it's 3). Once they lose their resident status their votes will stop being cast. So their majority will be eliminated and the votes of the remaining, active players will sway the vote.
That is assuming the playing members change their votes. If the citizens are logging in and playing, but not changing their vote from the incumbant, absentee mayor then the only thing you can do is try to contact them and get them to change their votes.
Of course, as absentee citizens lose their resident status, your city may face a population problem and shrink in size...
Thunderheart wrote:
Ragnaat wrote:You missed the point of the question. IF the mayor is absentee *AND* some other player form the town are also absentee then there is NOTHING that the active players ca currently do about this situaton.
Thunderheart wrote:
How do you vote out a mayor who no longer plays when alot of the town no longer plays?An incumbent mayor has to run against the absentee mayor and everyone has to vote for the new mayor.
How do you verify that all of these people are indeed AWOL?
What if they're all my frat buddies and I know they all quit?
You're still steering around the problem in the system that is being pointed out. There's a tailspin the system can get in when # of AWOL approaches the actives that no player interaction can get a city out of - even if the active onces want to try and save their city.
Now, I don't have any brilliant ideas on how to fix the problem. Perhaps weight default "absentee" votes differently compared to poisitve votes for the incumbant. Or maybe make it so the incumbant has to acknowledge he's alive before so that solution happens further up stream. Or maybe something as drastic as a term limit system were every few cycles the election slate is cleared and all candidates start from the same spot. But you know what, I'm not the designer here, just the player pulling ideas out his #@$, so its not on my shoulders to find a solution to the problem, just here trying to help you see it.
Naufragus wrote:
Krayvex wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Any thoughts on how to stop everyother pvp player from using a jawa rifle or stun baton?
No. Do you find this to be a problem?
Sometimes I wonder if we are playing the same game, then I realize that I play pvp and you don't. Due to stun damage being a vulnerability in armor, almost everyone uses a stun damage weapon in pvp. I can only guess this is the way the designers wanted it. My question was more of a "is there a way other than stun layered composite to stop stun damage and is it the design of the game that any profession that doesn't have a stun damage weapon be worthless in pvp? Things have gotten worse since the Geno blaster came out. That thing would be a decent pistol no matter what type of damage it did. Using Last Ditch with it on other players is very unbalanced.
well that is the point in variety in armor, isnt it...its a known weakness in composite and since everyone bought the cookie cutter kinetic resist composite, you are all screwed...its called stategy..find your opponets weakness and exploit it...
there are also defense vs. stun CLOTHING you can buy...
i just dont see the issue here
Defense vs stun is defense against the stun effect, not stun damage.
Krayvex wrote:
Naufragus wrote:
called stategy..find your opponets weakness and exploit it...
You just hit the nail on the head. There's only one weakness. That's a majority of the pvp'ers are riflemen. Most of the serious ones are anyway. I agree completely that pvp should require strategy, but grinding to master rifleman and buying a jawa rifle isn't exactly what i'd call challenging. Maybe spamming headshot3 is what you'd call a strategy, but it's not what I'd call one.
I don't know if stun dmg is the whole problem. I guess you could add in the fact it rarely gets buffed and that it's not healable too. Don't give me that CM line. Any CM who has the time to heal your mind in a large pvp fight isn't doing his job (poisoning). Stun dmg to the head is the weakness. So instead of cookie cutter armor, we have cookie cutter players and no strategy past the choice of a profession.
The filling effects are not cleared.
Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Assistant Community Manager
And that's a bug, right? No plausible reason for it to be that way.
FangbonerX wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Krayvex wrote:What's the status on stomachs being emptied on cloning? Wasn't it supposed to be in the last publish?
No. The effects of food buffs are not cleared when you clone. They have to naturally time out.
This doesn't make much sense to me. Why would your clone start with stomach contents?
The best, and most succinct argument to remove all references to "cloning" in the game, and instead call it "intensive bacta treatment."
There has never been a convincing argument to call it cloning except "we want to cater to folks who have only seen Episodes I and II."
RbT
You've skirted every Player City-Politician realated PLEA that has hit these boards! The Politicians in this game are exceedingly anxious about the future of their cities. The understand that the effects of DEV "adjustments" to the way player cities work are permenant. If a player city fails, and SOE realizes it was for the wrong reason, you will NOT be able to fix it. Another city will have already taken the slot.
On the issue of House-Turds left by inactive players, you pretty much said "We're leaving the houses incase they come back." How about if we can produce a genuine, signed statement from the EX-Owner that they promise to never return to the game? Can we get the houses moved then? Or how about a genuine Death Certificate? Would that be enough to get a house removed?
I have admin to a house in my city with 2+ years of maintenance paid. 10 seconds befor the guy logged off for the last time, he said "I quit. The house is yours. I put all my cash in maintenance, and put you on admin. Bye."
This guy is NOT coming back. And if he DOES, he sure doesn't expect to have a house when he does. I spoke to him on the phone to see if he could log on one more time to Deed the house. His account was finished.
Your cookie-cutter view of why houses should remain is fanciful, and inadequate to deal with the dynamics of this game.
We, the Mayors and Politicians, and indeed, the entire SWG community BEG OF YOU! Please give this some objective, quality consideration.
Thunderheart wrote:The filling effects are not cleared.
Skedoozy wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Krayvex wrote:What's the status on stomachs being emptied on cloning? Wasn't it supposed to be in the last publish?
No. The effects of food buffs are not cleared when you clone. They have to naturally time out.
Okay now you will have to clarify. You say the EFFECTS of Food Buffs are not cleared. But the EFFECTS are what clears when you clone. The only thing that stays is the TIMER. Your HAM goes back to normal when you clone and the TIMER remains. If the EFFECTS are not supposed to be cleared you have a nasty bug on yer hands that needs to be fixed ASAP.
Could you please explain this. After cloning, I can go get buffed again, and I can take Spice immediately. Why can't I take food? It does not seem logical that my stomach does not reset to empty.
A Mayor MUST log on once per week to be eligible for retaining their Mayoral position. If a Mayor does not log on between two elections, that Mayor is not eligible to win the second election. Any votes for that Mayor are discarded, and the next most popular candidate wins the election.
If there is no other candidate, the City is declared a Ghost Town, and if the situation is not rectified at the next election cycle, the City will be DISBANDED. A City can go from Metropolis to disbanded in the space of two weeks, if it is uncared for.
In other words, citizens who care about their city merely need to put in one candidate for election per week, and have at least one vote for that candidate. Only active candidates will be elected. Thus, only votes for active candidates will count. Cities that truly are dead will vanish, allowing other cities to grow in their place.
Cities with active Mayors will not be affected.
There was a space of about two weeks in which the Forums did the right thing and remembered my login. When the new skin was released, it broke again, but not quite in the same way for me as it has for you. In my case, when I open the browser in the morning and head to the Dev Tracker via a direct bookmark, the Forums treat me as logged on. If I try to reply, however, I get told I need to be an active community member (I get told this in my chosen skin, not the default one!) The Login page always has "Remember my login" unchecked, so I always check it again. After that, I'm all set for a while.
There's a timeout on the login period now. What I suspect is that Lithium is setting a cookie in my browser for my login session. When I first start the browser in the morning, that cookie still exists, and I appear to be logged in. However, when I go to reply to a post, a more specific check to see if I'm a community member is done, and at that point a timeout against my login session is triggered, and I'm asked to log in again. This sets a new cookie, and I'm able to post again, but if I don't post for a sufficiently long period, my session expires again and the next attempt to post will require another login.
Everybody hates 'em. Properly labeled as such, they can be used to build merchant experience ("click me for experience"). Anyone who has any other good reason for them, send me a PM. I'd love to hear it.
Wouldn't it be grand if a vendor, after not being stocked or maintained for 61 days, disapeared? The surplus maint could go the the owners account. There would be no product, because it would all have moved to the stockroom after 30 days, and would have poofed in another 30. all offers after 30 days of inactivity would have to be refused, or the items offered automatically returned to the offer-er. Or even send the offer-er an email telling him he had 5 days to come and re-claim it.
This will likely meet with the same responses that the politicians are getting about inactive house-turds, but here it is. Please consider it.