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RethPilot

Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:43 am

To JanuHull.

Since long time ago, I played lots of online games and all different kinds, likeChess,Age of Empires II,Combat Flight Sim,Asheron's Call, etc.etc. And I played both modes, PvE and PvP. In all thisgames I havealwaysseenallwhat you are refering in your post. Ina very hight porcentage ofcases of PvP this problemhas been there. All kind of cheaters.

But this, my friend, it's not a problem from the PvP mode, it's the problem of the Human Race!. It's a pity but that point we can't change.

Of course we can't generalize and say that every PvPer is a cheater (I've never did and I will never do)

But the question here in SWG is: If this game has been created to allow bothmode of players (PvP and PvE) first of all, take it easy, you have to assume it and don't get desperate. If this dual concept causes so many problems it's not the problem of the PvPers. It's the problem of the Devs. They knew (or they should have know it)which is the problematic about create a game that confrontsboth styles of playing in the same server.

Anyways I trust in the Devs, and I think there are so many possible solutions, that's why here is a forum opened to new ideas, suggestions andfeedbacks. To try to be constructive and to contribute with our all best wishesto get this game the best one.

Also Isincerely recomend you for once: justtry to play in the PvP mode, there is nothing more exciting in an online game!!! (under a fair play, of course

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Long Live the Rebellion!

Colonel Dare of the Rebel Alliance. Yavin4 Sector.

Message Edited by RethPilot on 06-25-200408:05 PM

Message Edited by RethPilot on 06-25-2004 08:05 PM

Sir_Voor

Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:29 pm

#197

With the new jedi system and JTL coming up, it the goal of the dev team to have everyplayer to have one Jedi/pilot character and one FS/mule by the end of the year? If it is or not that is what will happen. Holocron's killed entertaining professions, forced stat migration killed IDing, Two character per server will kill crafting professions and to finish the game off everybody will become jedi.

Thanks RuneSWGsabre

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Naeto

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:00 pm

#198

I 100% agree with your solution. It just seems so simple. If you're a covert and you group with an overt, you've just declared a side for as long as you're grouped with them and should be changed to Overt status. Once you leave/disband that group, the TEF should stay with you for a while. I don't think 1 hour is unreasonable, makes sense from the point of "going back into hiding." 5 minutes isn't enough to disassociate yourself.

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Rorenikibi

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:07 pm

#199

Actually, I find the one hour covert timer to be a pretty ham handed way to force unwanted PvP exposure on players returning to covert status.

There are way to many penalties on interactions between overts and coverts to make people who maintain permanent overt status worthwhile.

Its a time sink that caters to griefers.

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whoadae

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:42 pm

#200

group tef doenst become a problem till there's a combat medic using it. Every other combat class can at least provide a fair fight covert/overt/tef whatever.

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Naeto

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:52 pm

#201

"Actually, I find the one hour covert timer to be a pretty ham handed way to force unwanted PvP exposure on players returning to covert status.

There are way to many penalties on interactions between overts and coverts to make people who maintain permanent overt status worthwhile.

Its a time sink that caters to griefers."

But I think if you were to make it where grouping with overts pushed you from covert into overt status, it should take a bit to switch back. You shouldn't be able to just drop from the group and be safe again. That would be just encourage another form of griefing.

The idea of grouping with overts making you an overt yourself for a while is simply an extension to the philosophy that "if you you want to PVP, you need to be an overt." But, it gives players more flexibility in the length of their participation.

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mmanubis

Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:11 pm

#202

yeah GTEF sucks

BarlokKincaid

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:17 pm

#203

kimirahi wrote:

Group TEF needs to be abolished.

It completly ruins one's fun. Take this for example;

Bobby Tom is an overt imperial raiding coronet he attacks Marey Anne (who is overt) and kills her, suddenly Bobby Is poisoned/diseased by a blue dot? And then head spammed by another blue dot. Tell me how this is fair/fun.

Overts ONLY should be able to participate in PvP.

Message Edited by kimirahi on 06-25-2004 03:36 AM

Well, maybe Bobby Tom should have checked to see if "Marey Anne" was grouped with anyone else. Stupidity causes cancer. Stop trying to blame the game because you weren't bright enough to think just A LITTLE ahead. Most people have the ability to LEARN something. If you get wasted by grouped coverts, then maybe you could LEARN to expect that in the future. The game is A LOT more fun when you understand the basic mechanics of it. As for fair? If you want a fair fight, that's what duels are for. Last time I checked war wasn't supposed to be "fair." It's just naive to assume that an overt is not grouped. It's not the game's fault that you were stupid, so stop trying to blame the game.
Honestly, all it takes is a little thought to see the reasons why TEF or specifically GTEF exists. If you don't like how it works, learn and adapt, like the rest of us do.

Message Edited by BarlokKincaid on 06-25-2004 06:25 PM

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Erym

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:20 pm

#204

I feel that the TEF should be kept ingame..but like someone else mentioned if you are covert and group with an Overt you Automatically get a TEF

RemainsIntact

Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:33 pm

#205

no one likes tef, remove it. especially group tef

RemainsIntact

Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:34 pm

#206

whoadae wrote:
group tef doenst become a problem till there's a combat medic using it. Every other combat class can at least provide a fair fight covert/overt/tef whatever.

a tkm group teffing w/ dizzy/kd = fair?

actually my friend it = fight over.

SVX007

Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:34 am

#207

I think the gtef is a viable point of the War I'm not a PVP type but i gotta beleive that in any war RL or not that if I attack a member of the enemy side his group is going to open up on me, War isn't some movie where a guy walks in to a town and fights all the enemies one at a time, granted that could be role playing to the extrem but hey its a matter of responsibility. Not fair? what about war is?

Admiitedly there are some matters that need fixed I think once your clone card gets pulled there needs to be a timer so you cant run right out and start fighting again.

thats just my 2 cents frm a non PVP

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Nuckman

Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:31 am

#208

Make us Master Brawler

and add 4 more trees past TKM (new title for Current TKM changed to TK Artist)that already exists

Give us a speed penalty when we use a VK

4 More trees would give the opportunity to make mediate regen faster(currently same as sitting)

and FOW timer lower and Power Boost better ( at least longer)

Or id rather see a quick Power Boost at 75% that we can do in battle

Make the new TKM weapon gloves with brass knucks or put spikes on it, another idea,

Would make craftable spikesthat act as a power up for boots.

Real TKM leave your Ideas i dont think any of this would make us

overpowered

4 new trees

2 for Meditate

1 for Sencing Force being USED not inactive jedi no mission terminal but make us track down a TKM NPC that must give us permission to "warn" the Jedi

1 that adds a few more moves with MINIMAL attack mods- maybe +15 for spd and damage in the whole tree another +10 at master

Make the XP for the Sencing line Combat

And make the XP needed like the BH weapon lines with 2 450k Boxes needed.

I wouldnt mind getting 2 450k boxes of combat xp and 6 450k boxes of unarmed

Meditation

200k

300k +5 to regen while meditate

400k

450K +5 to regen while meditate

Combat Focus

200k

300k Battle Power Boost 50% str able to do in combat

400k +5 Combat Focus

450K Battle Power Boost 75% str

Finese

200k +10 Dodge

300k +5 Unarmed Spd

400k +5 Unarmed Dammage

450k +10 KD/stun/dizzy

Force Attunment

200k +5 Active Force Sencing 100m

300k +5 Active Force Sencing 200m

400k +5 Active Force Sencing 500m

450k+5 Active Force Sencing

Master

Will of The Atunned FOW timer 20 min

+5 regen while meiditating

Combat Focus 100% in Battle, must wear off before you can do reg PB that is better and last longer

+10 Dodge/Unarmed Damage, Spd

Unarmed KD3 area Dizzy/KD attack

Force Sencing ability must seek TK NPC for his permission to find the Jedi Misusing power

Message Edited by Nuckman on 06-26-2004 08:10 AM

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