Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Weekly Rountdable Discussion (Week Ending 1-25-04)
Neroir wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
The timetable was changed because the Droid Engineers were very clear in telling me they wanted Droid Engineering and Droid Handling as two seperate professions.
I cant believe what Im reading. DO YOU ACTUALLY READ THE DE FORUM?? Maybe you havent noticed the poll saysvery clearNO the the Droid Handler profession
Ellesa, an indignated Droid Engineer
Funny thing is they also think that the Jedi system is an overwhelming success! The crap the put out for PR is just spin, plain and simple. The crap they feed us here, shielded from public view, is just that . . .crap! They dont care what we think, period. They have proven that time and time again.
This whole new year, new commitment to communication was truly more smoke up our arses!
VolatileMan
WOOKIEE ARMOR....please padded will do i dont mind
Vashner wrote:
IMHO Adding another professions for DE's is dumb.
It's a group of people that are stuck up and they think exising DE profession is written in stone.
And no it does not make sense to make 2.
Basically they just nerf themselfs skill points wise.
About one of the dumbest ideas I have ever seen in SWG. Oh well I am not DE I was just lobbying for them to get combat droid. They want to act stupid and nerf themselfs then so be it...
Vashner -
Before you accuse people of "acting stupid" you should do your research.
I cannot find ONE DE who thought a DH class was a good idea.
If you read this thread before replying, you would know this. Or if you just took a quick look at the DE forums.
Don't go around calling people names because TH seems to have made a fact up out of thin air.
Calling people "stuck up" because of a false statement made by a red name is really bad form.
No one wants this - and you should not comment on things you seem to know nothing about.
Audio
I'll try again...
1.) Backpack sort order does not save at all, ever. I would like to be able to open my pack full of resources and have them sorted alphabetically and by type without having to resort them each time I open them. Either save the sort order, or have an option in the game options stating which sort order you would like for ALL containers in the game. Something like: "Sort by x first and then x" would be sufficient.
2.) The column width for the bazaar only saves for one login. I like the way it's customizable, but it's a pain to resize it every login.
3.) Graphics options, specifically Show Detail World Objects &Fade Objects, only save for the duration of one login. More specifically, Show Detail World objects is switched to off and Fade Objects is switched to on. Please have it save what I select.
4.) The ALT key cannot be unbound from Toggle Mouse Mode. I like to use ALT for other keymapping. It's great to use formacros and other keymapping. The workaround right now is to remap the Toggle Mouse Mode key to something else (like the Windows key) and just use the right ALT key for mapping other shortcuts since the left ALT key will still be mapped to the Toggle Mouse Mode no matter what you do. It wasn't like this months ago.
I've been reading the DE forums for 6 months, and Droid Engineers DO NOT WANT A SEPERATE DROID HANDLER PROFESSION! There's no way anyone spending 5 minutes on the forums could ever get that impression. Where have you been? Who is feeding you false information?
Maybe you're mistaking the majority of people who want Combat Droid Certs for a DH profession? Not the same thing at all. We want a wide variety of clients for our Droids, not a very select/elite clientel of just one profession. How will that help us sell droids?
Please don't make a DE Handler Profession.
Certs for combat classes based on level for the combat droids, but more importantly, droids are not just crafting stations/combat tools. Give DE's the ability to make different types of useful droids.
The DE/DHdebate sounds much like the recent CH "Patch", where as the Overwhelming CH Public Opinion was DON'T, we are not powerful as it is or as people state. It DOESN'T matter what the Player Comunity wants. Their DE/DH change just looks like their preplan to remove the "Not StarWarsy" enough CH profession from the game. Cuz of all the Whiny "P o k e m o n", nerf hearders. So the answer SoE came up with was replace the CH with DH, Cuz Droids are More "Star Warsy", Well it may be me but not once did I see in any of the movies, any of the Characters run a Durni Hunting mission for credits.... This post can go on into the 100000's of responses, seems our oppinions as people in the Player community, sorry Paying Player community do not matter.
I have been playing for Months and have seen a lot of changes. LOT of changes.... With the CH changes, I remember personally BEGGING TH and SoE to PLEASE fix some of the BUGS that we were encountering before making their "Rebalanceing" Changes ie "Nerf the profession", Oh but they gave us the ability to use Pet Specials and Ranged attacks and made New Rare Pets available to us. The only thing that I can see with the changes are potentially 3 new commands you can teach a pet, that work 25% of the time if that. Not once have they confirmed this to be a problem (The DEVS, Though Vertexon Our Correspondent said he passed it on to the devs), we have not heard ANYTHING back from SoE Stating/Confirming/ Or denying that they do/dont work as promised. Rare Pet drops???? 1 and a Billion Chance of new Creatures Spawning Babies??? hmmmm
Understandably there are a LOT of people with Different oppinions and perhaps it is difficult to get a majority vote... THOUGH it is Plain to see here on this forum and on the DE forum that the Populus is AGAINST the changes they propose.
How bout this SoE, I realize not ALL of the player base comes to these forums. Why dont you add VOTING buttons to your Login Screen (EVERYONE) sees that screen Every Day.... You can even make it Simple,
"We are proposing the following Change to x profession" - Yes/No. Everyone gets the opportunity to place one vote per question asked. If you CARE at all what the True oppionion of your Paying Community wants this would be fairly simple to do... If you DON'T care, then continue what you are doing, and assume based on whatever Poll you are running make the decision on the majority of the players, and say that is the Majority of the feelings of the public.
Bostaka
Not that i personally think the DH is a good idea but reading all
the posts made me wonder .. It's mainly DE's that claims the
DH will be a bad idea .. What does all the other trees say 
We've been trying to get your attention for months on this issue and the only response we've gotten is a massive influx of new holocron entertainers thanks to holiday gifts.
Are the entertainer professions just an experiment that went bad? Can you at least be open and honest with us about the situation?
- J
Linked wrote:
Not that i personally think the DH is a good idea but reading all
the posts made me wonder .. It's mainly DE's that claims the
DH will be a bad idea .. What does all the other trees say
There in lies the problem, TH claims that DE clearly wanted the separate DH profession. Whats up with that? Once again were being spoon feed whatever SOE wants and all the while being told its what WE wanted! Then the PR machines rolls out press releases stated how wonder the communication between the Devs and the community has been!
Something around here stinks, and its not the fish!
VolatileMan
Well to some extend i follow it ..
I mean normal use of combat droids along the same guidelines as
Creatures/pets and special training for the "programming" of the more
advanced "combat" models ..
I do believe the DH tree is a bad idea but I also think it can be explained ingame
I just posted my opinion on the idea. You disagree or think it's wrong fine....
So maybe I posted a bit harsh on the topic but Iget upset when people thing aMaster DE can't control or own his own built combat bot. They want to give away all the perks. I wanted the Master DE's that waited for months to get the reward and use of the bots.
Audio ... nice that you disagree...
But I think it's healty to have various opinions ... you may not like them but SOE and Lucasarts will be well served to have people like me that don't think inside the box...
I like the freedom to post my opinion about the game change and hope that the dev's will appreciatemy sometimes unique point ofview no matter if they disagree or not.
I wanted toput a smile on the faces of the existing Master DE's.. that's all..