Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Patch Notes for Publish 8
Eeloominath
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:48 am
#183
I haven't seen the ad barking live on TC yet, but if it really does shout a message every n seconds, i got an idea on how to still have it fill its purpose, but not spam the spatial chat:
Have it have a permanent chat bubble over it, instead of real spatial chat action, saves people the (probably not even possible) ignore of the tincans.
Starport spamming is really bad as it is, please dont add spamming bots to that mess. Reduce, dont extend!
Have it have a permanent chat bubble over it, instead of real spatial chat action, saves people the (probably not even possible) ignore of the tincans.
Starport spamming is really bad as it is, please dont add spamming bots to that mess. Reduce, dont extend!
teamdoa
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:23 am
#185
guys....they dont read any of this you know...hence why the starport times are still ten minutes.
Skye_Trig
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:31 am
#186
The ONE thing I cared about in this patch is NOT in it! Going from any planet to any planet! 
I don't care about the 10 min wait if you just would have kept that in the game. I loved you guys when I heard about it.... until now. I sure hope you guys reconsider and get this into the game asap!
If you for some reason decide not to put the best feature ever into the game then it mandatory you change the shuttle waits to 5 min.
I know you guys want to share information with the community, but damn.. don't say things like that and not deliver. I rather not know anything. Yes, I know you have disclaimers on every pre-release statement that things can change. Just keep quiet instead.
Yes, I know I am upset. Since this is the ONLY thing I cared about in this publish. Even though the survey/maintenance droid upgrades sounds awesome, we'll have to see how they deliver. If they do not report in % spot on resources then they are just worthless crap since I could just swap out to SWGcraft and get all the info I need, while I wait on the unnecessary shuttle wait on corellia for going to an advanced planet.
//Nintech
Zzorg
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:31 am
#187
Well I had a minute to go out and try the harvesting Bot last night between server crashes and guys you have NOTHING TO WORRY about.... the harvest process is SLOW and will not be used by anyone past the initial "new" of the item. I played with it for about 5 mins and am now finished with it ... never to pull it again due to that.
On the survey droid.... GREAT IDEAL ! But i fully expect the unit to function about like the harvest droid, Slow very inefficient and not worth the effort.
Bottom Line Guys ,,, Most of the stuff hereI see everyone griefing about is based on items put in the game that (IF THEY WORKED THE WAY YOU THINK THEY SHOULD....) Might lessen the functionality of one or more professions....Forget about the impact they will have on other professions. It will be just like that dusty oldCOMBAT DROIDI have in my data pad, WORTHLESS and never used again, the first to be deletedto make space for another MSE Droid with 10 Item Storage...
FIX THE OLD CONTENT !!!I for one will gladly wait on the next "P-O-S" Droid or Clothing Item or hot new visual effect (that will further reduce my frame rate)for things such as::
"Reduced the wait time on shuttle ports to 5 minutes (Starports are still 10 minutes)."
Who cares about shuttle times? Most of the time you can drive somewhere if the shuttle wait is too long, its the Starports that are the problem.
A 10 minute wait from talus to endor wouldnt be an issue, its the 10 minute waits between EACH stop that you have to wait for. Either give us 5 minute star port times OR direct travel to any planet, I don't care what some pansy roleplayer wants, waiting 10 minutes at 3 different starports to get to one place IS NOT IMMERSION.
Vehicles will no longer auto-heal when left out and stored after a player has taken a transport to another location.
I see this was more important than actualy gameplay issues...
This is just a few of the issues you guys are PISSING YOUR TIME OFF ON !! ?? GET with it guys and fix what is already broken... Quit adding worthless JUNK to the game and most of all listen to the players that are telling you what is REALLY WRONG WITH THE GAME...
TurboSith
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:33 am
#188
as a DE patiently waiting im split... new content is nice.. but like every other DE we are still waiting for just a single new chassis at least.... not to mention pub 8 and pub 7 could have easily been made into one publish.... there still has not been a DE publish like the chefs got...
for all those non-crafters that think the DE's are finally happy that we get soemthing.. we really havent... all they are doing is hanging food over a starved animal and hitting it when it tries to go for the food.....
not to mention... i have a feeling when it goes live alal DEs will get harrassing tells about how the new themed picture show more new droids that they want us to make them...
ill jsut step back adn watch for now.. and go play my other broken class pikeman... still trying to get a NS energy lance so i can prance around witha pike i could never afford to use everyday
for all those non-crafters that think the DE's are finally happy that we get soemthing.. we really havent... all they are doing is hanging food over a starved animal and hitting it when it tries to go for the food.....
not to mention... i have a feeling when it goes live alal DEs will get harrassing tells about how the new themed picture show more new droids that they want us to make them...
ill jsut step back adn watch for now.. and go play my other broken class pikeman... still trying to get a NS energy lance so i can prance around witha pike i could never afford to use everyday
Diango
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:40 am
#189
Who cares about shuttle waits reduced to 5 min. What we care about is the starport reduced to 5 min not shuttleports. That just flat out sucks. I hope this gets changed TH.
TEKTrader
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:44 am
#190
EnzoQ wrote:
Merchant barking modules.... you're kidding, right? The spam in Theed and Coronetisone of THE MOST ANNOYING things that I have to put up with in this game. I would definitely recommend... no, IDEMAND that you also include an option in the options menu to ignore all spam that is put out by these modules. If I wanted to deal with spam in SWG, I'd buy an account for all of the people responsible for all the spam in my hotmail account and give them my in-game name and have them send it all there too. But I don't do that.You know why? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. I spend a good part of that 10-minute wait period for the shuttles at shuttleports updating my /addignore list every time I fly through Coronet or Theed. Speaking of this 10-minute wait, wasn't this supposed to be reduced to 5 minutes? I seem to remember a post like that... I can drive to any location onthe sameplanet in about 10 minutes, and that's if they're really far apart. I NEVER use the planetary shuttles, they're a waste of credits and a waste of my time. The only one I even think of using is the one in my city, and that's only if I'm going to a starport, and THAT'S only if I can't drive there faster. The whole "wait time" issue is at the STARPORTS. Star, Shuttle... they're both "S" words, so I can see how you got them confused, but guys, really... Try playing your game for 30 minutes, and try going from Talus to Lok, or from Lok to Dathomir... you probably won't make it to your destination.
One more thing, about the ridiculous vehicle maintinence costs being enforced now... Any chance that you're going to lower the maintinence costs? My car doesn't break down after I drive 50 miles, why would my speeder do that? It's definitely much more advanced as far as technology is concerned... So did the people in the Star Wars universe not figure out engineering as well as we did in this universe? Did they not move past the "tying things together with dried vines" stage of construction? I don't spend every other paycheck that I recieve on fixing my car... why should I do it for my speeder? This is a universe where they have spaceships and laser guns, people... I think they put things together with more than just Elmer's glue...
EXCELLENT post. I agree 100%!!!
AgreaAtodlie
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:44 am
#191
I'm glad to see thatdirect travel to any planet and reduction of star port travel times didn't get implemented yet. I think those changes are better saved for the space expansion so that people will have some compelling reason to actually want to get their own spaceship when they do exist. The people that need to travel the most are the miners anyway and the new remote survey module will save them a lot of that travel time sincethey wont have to actually travel to a planet to see iftheir current crop has shifted yet or not.
Umm, you play this game right? Im being completely serious. Do you play this game?? Obviously you don't. The only other reason you would post such a completely ignorant statement like this, would be because you are a rock...and are completely newb.
People that travel using starports -
Combat Profs - generally all
Crafting Profs - Most, if they are hunting resources down, or going to harvest hide/bone/meat.
Specifically which profs use the starports all the time, multiple times a day -
BOUNTY HUNTERS - ...you are a moron if you don't realize this...
Surveyors looking to plant harvesters, emptying harvester hoppers, etc.
Jedi - again moron if you don't see this.
All individuals grinding their combat profs - again ...need i continue? ok I will...
Guild vs Guild war...
PVP in GCW - think.../t soandso dude rebs are attacking theed...get everyone you know
Individuals doing quests.
Individuals going to an advanced planet looking for rare loot drops.
Your home planet is rori, and you need to get to coronet...
you are on endor and need to help a friend on dantooine.
again EVERYONE USES STARPORTS ALL THE TIME...percentage wise i would get 25% of people use shuttleports to get to starports or other towns, but only if the shuttle time is shorter than it would take to drive there.
Please reduce shuttle times and don't listen to individual, like the above quoted, who have NO clue about this issue...miners...LOL.
As far as the DE improvements cool, made some people edgy, we get territorial with our chosen profs unique skills (i.e. resource gathering, harvesting surveying, etc.)...
It was posted earlier the bh mission terminals are not working at all now that the patch is on test center...I highly recommend fixing that....asap...if you let that bug go live....you have no clue what it is you would be stepping into...one combat prof, would lose its ability to lvl a tree in their prof...thus allowing no one else to master bh. mbh would be completely broken.
So Image designer changes that were stated to be a part of this patch were scrapped?? after you posted in their forums and your partial update notes stating that would be addressed this patch??
These publish notes are either not complete, or someone fcked up major.
And one response from one DEV in this thread is unacceptable. Either have no devs post at all and let TH talk to us, about the things we are talking about, or have nothing but devs in here, shutting the office down for a day, and explain wth is going on.
And the fact that the DEV RUNESABRE, responded to THE LEAST IMPORTANT CONCERN posted on this thread is sad...lets see he could have addressed
JEDI GRIEFING/BROKEN BH MISSIONS
ALL THE BUGS
specified more on the modules, and their restrictions
given an explanation why the shuttleports and not the starports were reduced to 5 min, when 75% of the posts on the 43 page thread concerning this issue (posted by th) for the purpose of determining the player consensus on this, stated we wanted starport wait time reduced to 5 min, and routes to stay the same...
address these issues, don't tell us about hermit quests that 3 people in this game have an interest in...if you only have 5 min...tell Thunderheart to post on it...that is why you hired him...
OH, and why the hell are you posting in this publish, fixes that are ALREADY ON LIVE...?
*thinks someone needs to post the real patch notes, and stopping smoking the marijuana...*
tindre
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:45 am
#192
Give us 5 min waits on starports or even BETTER give us the already announced feature of going everywhere from each planet. That was the single thing I waited for in this patch....
I'd prefer the going everywhere with 10 min wait over 5 min wait and still have the hassle of going to coronet every single time I need to go somewhere.
//Tindre
Talos
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:47 am
#193
[17:49] [TH] Im happy to announce that in publish 8, shuttleport waits will all be 5 minutes and players will be able to travel from anyplanet to anyplanet. We are currently discussing the details of reducing the starport times.
Remeber this statement during the IRC chat TH. Well, we are happy to annonce that as usual, you guys lived up to less than half of what you told us. At least all the nerfs are in place..
atimes
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:53 am
#194
All you PvP whiners remember this.
The devs said they are holding back changes based on customer feedback.
Get it through your heads already. The vast majority of the playerbase doesn't give a rip about PvP.
Let that sink in. The majority of the playerbase doesn't care about PvP. We never have, we don't now and we never will. We don't care about PvP.
The devs are doing what they are doing based on feedback from the MAJORITY of the playerbase. If the MAJORITY of the playerbase were consumed about PvP pwnage in the GCW then you would see the GCW changes you so desire.
Since the vast majority of the playerbase cares about DE's finally getting some love, we like these changes (remember we the players choose to focus on more types of droids rather than giving all droids combat abilities which is the direction the devs were going).
We don't care about PvP. If we did you would see 98% of the population overt instead of 2%
You may now continue on with your pointless whining about Combat Medic's and Riflemen.
xRavX
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:54 am
#195
Very nice!!
Been waiting a long long long long long time for something cool to happen to droids.
For all those who are complaining about "that's it?"...you have received patches and publishes with fixes. DE's have had to wait and wait and wait...we finally got our Publish...please show us some respect and let us enjoy it.