Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
talonbloodwing
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:45 pm
#183
WOW .... finlay made it to the end but by the time this is posted ther will be two more pages to read thru lol
1. its broke BH rest in peace.... Sry guys all that work down the drain.
2. am i the only one who has seen jedi's in comp .... i have seen 3 so far i was under the imprestion they could no longer fight in it. i was wrong i got spanked by one in a dule ...... nice
3. the vendors bug and it is a bug FIx it.. thant is all i hvae to say abought that
4. ubees shirts and band's are red.. yes i can still eq this but its kinda anoying.
5. how is it a jedi can block a area atack like flam cone or strafe 2 with all most 90% effency.... when my strafe 2 is so power full it can shoot thru walls and piss off the entire corvet with one shot ...??? (and just a thought a jedi can block a stream of fire with a 2 inch beam of light .... wow they are bad aszes)
6. the wepon delay ... umm guys no ... bad devs no! ("it is my iunderstanding it was to prevent the exploit that pikemen where using to lay down many a DOT in just a few seconds nice try but cant u think of a better way of doing this and not fubaring the rest of us")
7. bike warping some how i ended up swiming in a house for close to 2 mins after dismouting my bike.("id call that fixed")
8. jedi is SP not geting a TEF... ok where do i start .. one in all the book and movies i have seen a JEDI is a rare thing. so why is ther 90 of them swinging ther LS in the SP spaming how they are god..... oktwo on this coment not all jedis are bad its the 8 year old's who only have a jedi caus ther mother bought it off ebay for them or spent ther alowance on buying creds to make ther griding macros run smother, who give the rest bad names.. ("just a thought .. when a jedi is in a SP or a Town using a LS give them a flag they are in a place with many ppl who im shure a slight wave of the hand cant catch all of them... and a BH sees you u shuld get a TEF as fast as u can say soozy... but when in winderness areas where a jedi who wishes to be of the PvE nature will not.") just a thought this would hellp to keep the jedi who wish to only PvE from being mad caus a BH killed them in the SP when they have no need to have a LS out but thought it would be kool.
9. how can a BH even get the exp and or $$$ for killing a jedi if he cant find one..... IE the droids to track jedi ... sigh good idea no folow thrue.
10. i likea game that all ways trys to make it funner for its players but come on..... guys ther are some major bugs that need to be fixed befor u add or chage new stuff. if u stoped right now and stald the relase of the 10 and put you work in to making it stable or run better or even say we are addresing the ishu me and others will thanx you for it.
11. smuglers oiy .... so why do they need to un pack ther stuff to slice this just make things take longer and waist more of the players time.
you revamped ID... over Fixing pistoler or the Line of sight problum with straf2/fan/flam cone or the BH tems being bugged.
i do under staind that for the most part DEV"S you do what your bosses tell you to. so in this post i have tryed my hardest to not come down on you .... and just addres the issues.
but no mater what ppl are going to whine ... o well cant stop them ... they whine till they quit .... o well
RogueKairi
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:46 pm
#184
Forsee another Jedi publish in the future I have 
Being a TKM, there has been some animosity in the past with BH's, but even I know these guys should tear apart a Jedi good part of the time. If I recall, Jango practically ripped Obi a new one in AOTC.
Squidwalker
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:46 pm
#185
Thunderheart wrote:
Welcome to the Publish 9: Secrets of the Force thread. This thread is for commenting on general live issues, asking questions andreporting known issues.We’ll post this thread once right after a publish and then again mid-way through the process.
We're seperating this from the weekly roundtable discussion so we can give each topic a little more focus. The last Live Issues thread can be found here.
It would be very helpful to include in your post:
Issue: Why are the jedi coversions getting credit for professions they never wored on or gained xp in? The jedi should only get credit and conversion points for jedi skill boxes gained from the old system. They shoudl not be allowed to put ANY points in ANY other profession. If they don't use them all, then fine, they go back into their normal character skill point pool, and they can use them as they actually work on and get xp for. So if I don't want Pistoleer anymore now, can I just one for one swap out my pistoleer boxes for say Fencer all the way up to master for my master pistoleer? No? Then why do the jedi get to? It's the exact same thing TH, they are getting to swap "boxes" they gained in profession for "boxes" gained in another profession entirely. So by the end of the week, I had better see the code in the game to allow the rest of us to do this.
Server: Bria
Planet:All of em.
Location (x,y): all of em.
Your profession:Master Ranger, Master Pistoleer, novice medic.
Instructionson how to recreate the bug: Be a jedi character that the devs want to kiss ass to, and totally pamper me over the other 31 professions.
Thanks :NOT cool:
This fact just utterly and completely proves with out a doubt that soe is completely in love with the jedi profession and could care less about the rest of the game. You have no way in hell of proving me otherwise of this after this. I know you want different types of jedi in the game, and I totally agree with that. But let them actually work the professions up. Hell with all the bloody HoloGrinding those same people did, its not like it would take them long anyway. And the fact that their original character did grind a mess of professions is absolutely o reason to allow them this. It's a different character. Otherwise, I should be able to swap skill boxes from one character on one server to another character on another server. Same thing.
IDontWantNoHandle
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
#186
Dear SOE:
Let me see if I have this right. To reward your loyal players celebrating your1-year Anniversary you are rewarding 6-month players with a future reward if they purchase the upgrade when it goes live six months from now. Do I have it right?
You are also giving a painting to everybody who has been playing for 30 days, correct?
So...for all of us playing since Day ONE, not 30 days or six months - But a full year or more get NADA.
Come ON SOE - Reward your 1-year players on your 1-year anniversary with something!
Amu Strami
Lowca
TheBlur
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:49 pm
#187
MrMud wrote:
A jedi is unable to train any normal skills after the conversion is finished because of a bug that makes every trainer your personal trainer.
Whatever trainer you choose to go to it will only train you jedi skills.
This cannot possibly be on purpouse but if that is the case then you should have stated that very clearly before the revamp took place.
/findmytrainer
Goto that location... the trainers in that city will work for training you your basic skillz.
Indene
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:53 pm
#188
supa187 wrote:1. Jedi not getting a TEF for pulling a lightsaber is just wrong.
.......
Probably
I have a lovely screenshot of my TC-2 Jedi doing battle with creatures with her LS and 2 squads of stormtroupers fighting at her side. (She is a covert Reb with -IMP faction and +reb faction -Indene-
troettger
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:53 pm
#189
Smugglers tools still pull from a crate from what I see although the patch specifically states it should not. Bug or not guess we won't know.
There is too much about this patch that angers me is that the only place to voice our frustration is on page 10 of a forum post that the dev's could care less about and most likely won't even get to my post. I pay for this game, and with a few different accounts between my wife and I, I feel I should have some input for the time and money I have put in. I won't get into the armour and weapon delays as the "queue" is slow buggy and in effect even when not in combat. Takes forever to change when no where near combat.
/sarcasim on
GREAT JOB Guys RIght on!! And this is one of the reasons you pushed back our Smuggler revamp, TOTALLY worth it!
/sarcasim off
Kylania
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:53 pm
#190
The fix for this is to ban the exploiting jerks or limit states and poisons and diseases to one per 5 seconds instead of nerfing ALL OTHER PROFESSIONS by limiting ALL weapon swtiches and armor switches to 5 seconds which in a game is a stupidly long time. Especially when you consider how often you do this.
TheBlur wrote:
hpycamper75 wrote:
Could someone please (politely) explain the Dev logic behind this one? I just can't think of any good reasons for it.
Reli Koviaran
Shadowfire
Master Combat Medic/Novice Pistoleer
Basically, this has been implemented because of people like mesk on Bloodfin. I am sure there are more people out there like him. however he would run around with 6 or 7 different NS lances all with varrying DOT's. So in the course of about three seconds he would land upwards of 9 different DOT's Flame/Disease/Poison. He hasno lance under a 500 tick. So basically, he was able to kill anyone in only a few seconds. They wanted to limit persons like that effectiveness by limiting their ability to instantaneously switch weapons and apply a DOT.
MaestroZen
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:55 pm
#191
Server: All
Bug: Jedi
Repeteable: Yes, go to coronet and take a look around
Solution: Call Lucas and tell him to put A LOT of jedi in episode III, so DEVs are justified
Ciap
Bug: Jedi
Repeteable: Yes, go to coronet and take a look around
Solution: Call Lucas and tell him to put A LOT of jedi in episode III, so DEVs are justified
Ciap
Indene
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:55 pm
#192
MCRP22 wrote:Issue: Prices of items on my personal vendor changed?? I withdrew the item, then put it back on the vendor at the price I wanted to charge, it still went back to the "Changed price". Example: Yesterday I put 5 swoops on the vendor priced at 15k per, today they are priced at 16.5k. I withdrew the swoop and tried to resell at 15k but it still showed as 16.5k in the vendor window. All of the items prices have been changed.Server: TarquinasPlanet: Naboo...I only have one vendor and it on this planet so I am unable to check others.
Location (x,y): -746, 1054 located in the player city ShadowRealm
Your profession: Master Chef, Master Artisan, Master TKA
Instructions on how to recreate the bug: Not sure??
Check to see if your Player City implemented a sales tax.
-Indene-
PuntaSur
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:00 pm
#193
talonbloodwing wrote:
5. how is it a jedi can block a area atack like flam cone or strafe 2 with all most 90% effency.... when my strafe 2 is so power full it can shoot thru walls and piss off the entire corvet with one shot ...??? (and just a thought a jedi can block a stream of fire with a 2 inch beam of light .... wow they are bad aszes)
It's not the LS blocking the special, it's the Force repelling it back if the Jedi is successful at blocking the attack in the % roll for success. Since in a MMOG it is not possible for the actual keyboard playing person of the Jedi to "read your mind" or "see into the future" to know you are hitting with a special, they had to code a means for the % roll to replicate that effect that a Jedi in the story would have that benefit to use Force Push or a Shield just in time.
8. jedi is SP not geting a TEF... ok where do i start .. one in all the book and movies i have seen a JEDI is a rare thing. so why is ther 90 of them swinging ther LS in the SP spaming how they are god..... oktwo on this coment not all jedis are bad its the 8 year old's who only have a jedi caus ther mother bought it off ebay for them or spent ther alowance on buying creds to make ther griding macros run smother, who give the rest bad names.. ("just a thought .. when a jedi is in a SP or a Town using a LS give them a flag they are in a place with many ppl who im shure a slight wave of the hand cant catch all of them... and a BH sees you u shuld get a TEF as fast as u can say soozy... but when in winderness areas where a jedi who wishes to be of the PvE nature will not.") just a thought this would hellp to keep the jedi who wish to only PvE from being mad caus a BH killed them in the SP when they have no need to have a LS out but thought it would be kool.
I totally agree with this. Nobody wants the TEF Poaching "drive by gank" cowards back out hunting all lower ranked Jedi who are actually doing the right "role play" and staying solo to avoid observation and visibility, but something needs to be done with the 14 year old retards who are abusing the profession of Jedi and all that it means to Star Wars lore.
Would it be so hard to station a CSR at the major starports on each server in rotations of dutyand offer a ONE time warning to these idiots, and then provide a 1 week in-game ban if they continue?We honestly need some server sentinels for all the morons, not just the Jedi.
Jediblues
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:07 pm
#194
I am not a Jedi, but simply voicing this for some of our allies that female Jedi. Those robes are awful for female Jedi - please get them something less she maleish t owear as a Jedi Robe.
aibo220
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:09 pm
#195
The delay with equiping armor and items is a threat to the well-being of this game.
Professians like BH are totally screwed over... They use the carbine to KD then switch to pistol or LLC for some damage. The delay takes too long.
The same goes for other professians that make use of multiple weapons or those who have customized templates. Like a pistoller with commando is screwed over by this delay. After a pistol whip or KD (TKA) they would yank out the flamer... But by the time they switch they are back up and there stuck holding that flamer which gets them extra damage.
And the delay on armor is unfair to everyone. Many people have armor macros so that when they are shooting a lair or a creature far away they can have their armor off to save HAM. Then when the creature gets closer or the lair beings to pop out creautres... They equip the armor. This delay ruins that.
I don't know what the heck you are trying to pull but it's not funny.