Development Cycle Archive

Well, I know another saying: "Never play on patch-day"

I pity those who couldn't due to being at work, on holiday or having other real life commitments.

So you are completely wrong in saying "Everyone had a fair chance to craft whatever they wanted." I guess if the number of people you talk about would be above 20% of all SWG players that would be still an overestimation.

Well, except that armor I made with 6% higher base. That will be an issue.

Leaving the changes in for one day was the worst decision SOE made . What would for example an AS do if these changes grant advantages on the resist .... yeah he would make schematics for the future with this uber armor and a lot of AS did this ...... all others are screwed .

now u can have 80/80/80 kinetic/energy/electric and base of 72-74 on my server .

sorry guys .... somewhere i read something about 'not happy with the economy' ... and what u did by letting shematics be created on this day is good for the economy .... yeah right whatever

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Loriena wrote:
Well, I know another saying: "Never play on patch-day"

I pity those who couldn't due to being at work, on holiday or having other real life commitments.

So you are completely wrong in saying "Everyone had a fair chance to craft whatever they wanted." I guess if the number of people you talk about would be above 20% of all SWG players that would be still an overestimation.

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I guess the Developers better take a poll of all the players to make sure they don't have a vacation coming or have to take the sick cat to the vet or don't feel like playing the day that they are planning to do something in the game.

Everyone had the exact same chance. The servers were online. Whetherpeople chose to play or whether they had other plans was up to them. Your personal circumstances do not mean you didn't have the same opportunity to play as everyone else, it just means you had something that took priority over playing a game.

The game is not everyone's first priority, but if some people want toquit playingthe game because a few people crafted some slightly better items then I say, let them leave. The game would be better off without that kind of player anyway.

There will always be kids that have more time to play and probably better characters then those of us who have more responsibilites, but threatening to leave over this is more immature than most of those kids.

seems to me like all the noobs are whining about it. Doesn't it make sense that if you are novice, you SHOULD NOT be at par with the skills of a master? its only logical that you have 500 crit faliures and issues as a noob. Its more realistic. All you hear is people complaining because suddenly the game becomes more realistic. Then they might say, "its the same thing as the complaints for nerfing some uber professions." No, it is not. Nerfing uber profs makes the game fair. Giving you the same abilities as master artisans doesn't. The whole point of the game is to be a representation of actual life in the SW universe. not everyone has it fair, you just have to deal with it. Removing the new crafting engine just shows how when noobs don't get it their way, its bad, and when they do, it doesn't matter what people who have played the game for some time now thing, because they can now grind easier.

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Getoc wrote:

Leaving the changes in for one day was the worst decision SOE made . What would for example an AS do if these changes grant advantages on the resist .... yeah he would make schematics for the future with this uber armor and a lot of AS did this ...... all others are screwed .

now u can have 80/80/80 kinetic/energy/electric and base of 72-74 on my server .

sorry guys .... somewhere i read something about 'not happy with the economy' ... and what u did by letting shematics be created on this day is good for the economy .... yeah right whatever

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And I read about 1000 post on the boards asking for the crafting changes not to go live because they were a nerf and all would produce inferior quality items...

Maybe you guys should have thought a little more before signing all those petitions....

For Bio-engineers the new system is horribly horribly *HORRIBLY* broken.

I tried it out on several pets, and the end result were pets that were VASTLY inferior to pets I was making pre-patch.

Not just a little worse, I'm talking about a 75% reduction in quality.

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UmmonPrime wrote:

/sigh

I think most of you missed the point of the patch. It was not intended to give better items, it was ment to even out the economy. You people will now take your ber 14 harvestors and sell it for twice that of a ber13. This was intended to make the 13s easier to craft so you could reduce the cost and that in turn reduce the cost on resources.

This is bad because it would actually do the oposite of what it was intended to do. Like i've been saying, the rich will just get richer and the poor will be ignored.

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The rich get richer because they are out there working to get richer rather than whining that other people are rich (and they arn't) Same problem in RL.

By way of creditials in this game I came to this world in sept? with nothing but the cloths on my back. The nice man at the starport handed me 250 credits and a holocron book (ctl-h). There were LOTS and LOTS of people already here and very wealthy. I worked hard and am now a Master CH and Master Merchant and quite able to buy what I want as well as need. In this world (unlike some) we *ALL* were given that start. If you find yourself poor perhaps you need to consider your game choices since you came here rather than who was here before you.

-Indene-

Experimentation Changes: I improved 1 component, made the rest the same, and every final item made from the components was lower than pre-patch, as we saw on Test. This was not welcome and I am glad for us Doctors it was slated for reversion to the old experimentation method.

Crafting Changes: Unless you craft in a research center, the fail rates are still far too high at master, at least for Doctors.

My first post-patch run on the night Pub 7 went live, I gave up after 20 items. The results were:

1 Assembly Crit, 3 Experimentation Crits, 7 Experimentation Fails, 3 Experimentation Good, 3 Experimentation Amazings.

One of the Amazings offset a "Good" success, so the end result was 4 usable products out of 20 products attempted. That equates to a 20% success rate, which IMHO blows. Devs please understand that A) we do not all live in player cities nor do we all want to, and B) ANYTHING below a Great Success is a Failure. The system still isn't treating Master Crafters as it should. Granted, I use an old 14.19 tool and a 43.2xxxxx station--neither of which mean anything to the outcome it seems--but I should get better results.