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Thread: Publish 9.25 Feedback Thread...

Beliblisrevenge
Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:52 am
#157

"1. NPCs using specials : VERY VERY BAD THING!!! Everything will be harder to fight now. NSs will use theirforce powers which makes them even more unstoppable, NPCs on the corvette are even more impossible to kill, and NPCs at the Death Watch Bunker would now need a whole group to take out 1 Death Watch Bloodguard. It's insane. Al"

hm you missing the godmode yes ?

dont forget this was a FIX ! now npcs working as they should !

every one crys for highend content....now you have the dwb ...make raids like in eq ...

swg is too easy yet , now it seems to be a bit better

no challenge = no atmosphere = no fun

greets
Junsa
Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:54 am
#158


all i have to say is BRIIIIIIIIIILIANT

What a welcome change, and kept nice n quiet too. When i heard the patch notes i was over the moon, soon as i logged in, straight up to Dath to test out the sisters.

I'm now only master rifleman as all my skill points are tied up in weaponsmith.


Anyway, they used weapons on me, specials - JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS. One thing i could never understand was why they took that out, was plain stupid. Just remember going up to Dath and being able to take on 10+ spell weavers, 10+ stalkers, 10+ whatever, and hammer them all with no fear. only if a elder came into it did u have to run (no intimidate and medic). Now that kind of gaming gets old FAST, i mean whats the point of getting buffed up, tons of mind food only to sit there, spam a que of specials and sit there typing to ur mates???? pah, makes no sense to me, wheres the challenge.


But now....now it was just like the old days, having to pull one at a time, getting aggroed by 3 by mistake, having debris thrown at you, scythes, batons, powerhammers, specials, the force, man its awesome. Getting kd'ed off ur bike, only to get up to a crowd of nightsisters checking out ur -5000 faction.

awesome....awesome


I actually had to burst run and nearly got incapped when a rancor tamer caught me on a downer (yes, i actually had to use spice too:smileyvery-happy, think that was after a sentinel hit me for a 700-900 mind bleed with a tasty LVA.

please do not change this revisit, pve is now something fun again, just tweak this so that the correct specials are being used, hell even leave it how it is, who cares.

Only thing i couldnt understand was, at one point a sentinel started hitting me for 600 on default attack, fully armoured in 80% kin and elec, 70% base.
Nothing was being protected on the combat screen ie "Ur armour composite protected xxx amount of dmg.

Anyways, thanks for putting this back in, once again, high lvl npc hunting will be a blast again.

/bow



Junsa Shen - Force Crafting Master Weaponsmith
+22 Experimentation +22 Assembly
LoafMeat
Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:54 am
#159

Wohoo!


Best patch i can remember!

Finally more challenging Combats against Npcs - less Solo Hunting!

Good that back on!


Greetz



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Dopa-Extreme-
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:04 am
#160






Barb-Wire wrote:

im all for toughening it up a bit, but NPC using a pistol should not be using master rifle strafe2 ability...


like wise force NPC using saber attacks and not using a saber.


this is not any better than all of em using fist attacks. if your going to do it, do it right








Absolutely right!!


I dont understand why when improvements aremade ,there are often/always malus which dramatically decrease their effectiveness.It seems to me like an everlasting autolesionism for this game, sort of harakiri


Please tell me that this was not a oversight and you 'll try to fix specials only with proper weapons!


Dopa[ECLIPSE]


ThorsAnvil
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:06 am
#161






thrthr wrote:
The Bounty Hunter TEF is Not fixxed.

Me(BH) and a Jedi had a unfortunate experience with that today(a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig missunderstanding)

please fix the things you state you do.

other then that great work






Similar experience yesterday night.



BH killed me, i lost the 30k , he walked by the TKA/Doc and it auto attacked him.


Not sure if he could attack me. but he killed the doc, I thought he was griefing, but after checking the logs, the Doc did attack, all be it Auto attack.




Understand JEDI EXP (exp based on normalized kills)

Master Elite Prof 3,891,000 exp / 4200 exp = 926 Rancors for Master Elite anything
Master LightSaber 15,280,000 exp / 1000 exp = 15280 Rancors for Master LS
Leviath0n80
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:17 am
#162


from mikedealers's post compaining he didn't have fun last night and saying he had never been killed in PvE for as long as he can remember with a very hardcore template and weapons/armour..


'come across 6 of them [nightsisters]' (and thought he could take them easily)

'first group of 4 "dark force weilders" or whatever [which are easy so he says]'


i can honestly say mikedealers's post pretty much summed up everything that is wrong with the difficulty of SWG and the attitude of the player base. it was a masterful show of eiltism and scorn for a balanced playing field and challenge in a game.


you aren't supposed to be able to solo 6 nightsisters or take on the crystal caves by yourself, or even go anywhere need a dark jedi by yourself. these are high end group content.


the attitude is unfortunatly, 'we;ve been able to do this for so long now that nothing else satifys us'. people have found uber loot and massive damage weapons so easy to come by that they are spoilt into thinking this is the normal, this is how it should be. it should not. nightsisters arn't supposed to be easy to kill, you arn't supposed to be able to solo everything in the game. if you havn't died in many months of play, something is shouting out that the game is too easy, especially if most of the time you solo.


SWG is too easy and too untactical at the moment. after JTL hopefully it will finally be both. hopefully there will be a bit of fear back into the adventure planets, a bit less of everyone having the best weapons and best armour and best template which wins them the fight and more who has the best tactics and skill.
Silverbolter
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:17 am
#163

Cranking up the NPCs and most specifically the nightsisters might be good for hunting, but it's bad for looting. Now I don't mind working a little harder for my loot and having to bring friends along, but it still saddens my heart to see that someone camping a box for hours on end in the borgle bat cave will ALWAYS end up with better loot than myself after a few hours of nightsister hunting. So again, cranking up NPCs is fun, making the hunt tougher is FINE, but PLEASE can we have some loot balancing and put an end to third party programs beating the game?
Flynn_Nomad
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:17 am
#164






KyleKnox wrote:

NS elders are now 10x or so harder to kill and do uber damage. As usual, there is no balance in this game, you've gone too far the other way.





As usual there is no balance in this game.


I've been saying it for a year now.


I have been playing since launch and participated in the GCW once, it sucked, never again, PVP is unbalanced and for a year I never participated...so basically, I'm not getting my money's worth.


NOW...PVE is unbalanced, lol! Great, fine, good...


I have 2 accounts, I will be cancelling one.


I will be keeping the crafter that supplies thepoor folks who waste their time in combat.


Then I will play JTLS, if it even REMOTELY sucks, bye.





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Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've
seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me
believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's
no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.
Redfenril
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:19 am
#165

I tested it out last night at a Imperial base for Carbines Grinding.

HARD HARD HARD!!!!!

While I was able to succeed without getting killed, my armour was torn apart by the Stormtroopers like paper! THEY HURT! Some shots (Full Blast on the Combat Logs) ignored my armour resists and I took the full damage. OWIE!!



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Redfenril
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:20 am
#166



Flynn_Nomad wrote:


KyleKnox wrote:
NS elders are now 10x or so harder to kill and do uber damage. As usual, there is no balance in this game, you've gone too far the other way.


As usual there is no balance in this game.

I've been saying it for a year now.

I have been playing since launch and participated in the GCW once, it sucked, never again, PVP is unbalanced and for a year I never participated...so basically, I'm not getting my money's worth.

NOW...PVE is unbalanced, lol! Great, fine, good...

I have 2 accounts, I will be cancelling one.

I will be keeping the crafter that supplies thepoor folks who waste their time in combat.

Then I will play JTLS, if it even REMOTELY sucks, bye.






Nightsisters are suppose to be tough to kill. That's why they drop the uber loot.



Colonel Oacob Riker
Tier 3 Pilot
RSO

Corporal Quinlan Noor
Starfighter Pilot
Flynn_Nomad
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:21 am
#167

I thought I would add some praise to counter my negative observations...


Did anyone notice they fixed the email problem?


Remember you would get like 20 windows opened when you would write or forward email?


And there is a radial option to attach a waypoint to the mail when you select the wp.


Why didnt they advertise this fix?



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Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've
seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me
believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's
no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.
wookgunner
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:25 am
#168






JustG wrote:


Folks,


No other loot drop rates have been touched outside of the Loot Kits.


Thanks for the feedback and your patience,


- g

Message Edited by JustG on 07-29-2004 06:26 PM




Would it be possible toincrease the drop rates for other items? A 100k to 300k HAM NPC should drop something 100% of the time and it shouldnt be a CDEF or CoA disc. I dont get to hunt too often, but it would be nice to receive some type of reward for taking out a high level NPC without having to camp them. There really is no fun in that. Sure the powergamer will get more loot, but that is a fact of life and people who can spend less time in game or in combat should not be penalized.


Can you increase the spawn rate at all the other caves (ewok, marauder, woolamander, Lord Nyax, the one's on talus, etc.)? Again with limited combat or play time I have arrived at many of these locations only to find them empty and have to wait an hour for them to respawn. The pretty much ruins my entire hunting session for the day. There are already so few thing to do. The Vette and Bunker are suicide for someone with my play style and ridiculously hard in the first place. Your badge stats back up the Vette. Only 2% of the population has completed it.Something wrong there. Creature missions get old after the first half hour, the warren has no value,and my house is full of geo loot.






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LordArgus
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:25 am
#169

I think about 50% of players enjoy going solo. So, making it to where I cannot kill many NPC's without being in a group, just kills the game for me. Even as a solo, nightsisters were hard. I could hold my own most of the time. I passed a nightsister protector yesterday, and she hit my swoop and nearly took it out. I didn't even know what hit me at first. I saw the NS and jumped off the bike, next thing I know, I'm incapacitated. I didn't even get a chance to hit her. After I cloned, I realized my swoop was disabled. I'm Master Swords/Master Rifle. Yet this NS killed in in 5 seconds. That right there is enough to make me want to find another game. I don't like hunting in groups, I'm a true solo player. I worked hard for the 30k it took to buy that swoop, and poof it's gone in 5 seconds.

Also, I agree, with earlier posts. The NS are using specials for weapons they don't have. You messed up on this one I think.



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