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Thread: FINAL RESOLUTION ON DECAY: 1% Decay will be gone with the Imperial Crackdown

Kovev
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:27 pm
#157

Very nice, but franly I do not see that it is fair to leave the penalty in PvE. Some PvE situations are just as deadly, and cause just as many deaths.

Add to that, the whole decay on death system makes no sense at all. Follow the logic:

1. Only armor, clothing, and misc gear decays.
2. Clothing and misc gear are fully functional even if fully decayed.
3. Armor and clothing decay in the combat process, as you take damage.
4. Weapons, pets, droids, resources, meds do not decay.

Bottom line, armor wearers in PvE take double decay. Is this fair?

Weapons only take singe decay through use of specials and power-ups.

Pets live forever, never degrading.

Houses and structures have maint to counter decay.

Droids last forever without need on maint, or sufferign decay.

Even if you are blowen up by germades, your resources and meds don't decay or degade in quality.

I was told that the decay system was put in to simulate reality, well...it doesn't. Only armor is effected.

Summary:
1. To remove decay from PvP and not PvE is not fair.
2. To single out armor as the only item truly affected by decay is grossly unfair to certain professions and play styles. It already decays nassivly through use, like nothing else in the game.
3. Pets of all types are in no way touched by decay.
4. Decay does not afect food, meds or resources.
5. This is not a realistic system.

suggestion: All items decay over time, and all tiems require regair and maint, or the stats degrade. Combat causes enough armor decay, death does not need to carry any. If there is death decay, it should hit everythign on you, lowering the stats on it by 1%.

This system makes me nuts, it's unfair, and illogical.



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BlackBlade888
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:27 pm
#158

Sweet mercifull Heavens!! THERE IS A GOD!!!!



...Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less.
*Three* shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three.
*Four* shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two,
excepting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
Amen.

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darkmane
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:36 pm
#159

TH--

Thank you, this is the type of communication I have been hoping for from SOE. The fact that you:


  1. Owned up to a mistake

  2. explained how it happened

  3. Posted it in an obvious place, making it conspicous to even casual forum readers

really made it that much more effective. I get teh feeling I may have been shorting you on credit when it came do miscommunications recently, but the explanations have been buried in threads so I've missed them.



Thank you again.

HoTron-rex
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:38 pm
#160

TH, can you please answer this question for us if you're still reading this thread... what happens if someone triple incaps you to grief you (which happdens all the time anyways). will that scenario induce decay?



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HighGround
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:41 pm
#161

Time to blow the dust off my 250k set of composite
Boatsheets
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:42 pm
#162

Would a Tusken killing me be considered a faction death (Tusken faction)?





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Renairdor
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:43 pm
#163






Thunderheart wrote:





BigSteve03 wrote:
I'm happy about the change, but I feel bad for the programmer who had to work (probably) most nights and all weekend long to get this change into this publish just because some people couldn't accept a simple mistake and wait a little longer for the change.





Thanks for saying so BigSteve


I'll pass along your kind words. They are much appreciated.








Heh, I feel for the testers who probably had to test after the coding was done, into the wee hours of the morning and all weekend *grin* And the leads and managers who probably had duty to stay up 7am to 2am to watch it all.



Thanks to the whole team! I too think this is a great fix and will encourage PvP, but enough folks will perish 'in the field' to keep tailors happy. Great balance.


Ren

AriasImmortal
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:50 pm
#164

/cheer!



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OdiousEncounter
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:53 pm
#165

Thank you very much. I only recently felts the effects of the decay. There was a huge NPC attack on coronet the other day (hundereds of imperial NPCs, and plenty of imperial PCs tagging along). I wanted to participate, but didn't want be stuff to decay. I went to the bank and deposited all of my clothes, so i fought the hold battle in my underwear. It was very irritating.



It would be greatifyou could be TOTALLYCLEAR on one thing, though. Does this apply to both NPCs and factioned PCs? (i assume it applies to factioned NPCs too). It would be great if you could give just a perfectly straightforward yes or no to these questions:



  • If i am deathblown by an enemey faction player, will my things decay? (You've said no here)

  • If another player uses a faction pet on me (such as an AT-ST), and it deathblows me, will my things decay?

  • If i am doing a terminal mission to destroy a stormtrooper base, and a stormtrooper (not controlled by a player) defeats and deathblows me, will my things decay?

Thank you very much.




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JEST3R
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:55 pm
#166

Thank you Devs, This was needed most to help revitalize PvP and the GCW as a whole.


I know the past week was filled with alot of passion, I thank the developers for seeing and hearing what the players wanted most and acting in such a quick fashion.


JEST3R






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OdiousEncounter
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:56 pm
#167

One other thing i wonder if you're checking against - Will pet DBs have decay removed? I was dueling my friend the other day with my rancor and my rancor (much to my suprise) deathblew him. Would his decay have been removed under this patch?


It would be nice if pets didn't deathblow at all, however. It means one cannot use them in a friendly duel, and i have heard that the master doesn't get the faction if their pet DBs an enemy PC. Is there any chance that this could be removed?



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OuterRimScout
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:58 pm
#168

Also I've heardfrom TC, if you're incapped 3 times in pvp and not deathblown, the system will deathblow you and it will not register as a pvp death. Therefore you will suffer decay. Beware of griefers....


-Grishnaar





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Zeritus
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:05 pm
#169

Okay, good job!


You have made the PvP'ers happy now make the rest of us happy and remove the DOUBLE decay penalty from armor in PvE as well.. It already decay's with use so why not remove the decay on death penalty altogether? Even the Armorsmiths will rejoice because then they will sell even more armor since it will be worth it finally.





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