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Thread: Publish 8: Various Gameplay Changes

Boldor
Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:42 pm
#144






Arbeemusic wrote:

in case you havent seen there is a bug where you can repair your vehicle, and then if you store it and recall it later it comes out as it was damaged before you repaired it.... kinda sucks!







Umm that bug was fixed in today's patch if you didn't bother to read it, So essentially any disabled vehicle is now a POS in your data pad.
Boldor
Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:44 pm
#145

OK TH so you changed the Savage Quenkers on Dant to have their ranged attacks back. How about fixing the /BUG where the babies do as much ranged damage as the adults, thats just crazy IMHO
Gallbearer
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:13 pm
#146



cknoos wrote:
Maybe I missed this part, but what happend to all starports being able to conntect eachother (aka buhbye coronet hops)? That was the thing I was looking forward to the most :/





Yeah, I was wondering that too... TH mentioned it about a week ago (I don't know if it was a "maybe" or not) but then there was never any mention of it again, yea or nay.



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huan_the_destroyer
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:15 pm
#147

ooooooooo i love the smoke BOTS in the cantina!



just what we needed! more frickin lag.







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huan_the_destroyer
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:20 pm
#148






Limbonik wrote:





capodan76 wrote:

Nova Troopers are stuipid and un-star warsy. Getting a TEF in a crackdown city should not mean instant death for the rebel. Its not like killing them granted some amazing amount of faction anyway, what like 10 faction points? There isn't even anything worth while to spend Rebel Faction on.


I hear this from alot of Rebels. From alot of Rebels who know that FPs will get them factional-ships in the upcoming SE. Tell me again easy/free faction points for rebels means nothing, will you?

If the Imperial players are so upset about faction farming, then they should be the ones to do something about it. There are plenty of crackdown troops to support an Imp player as they engage a Rebel.


That's an ignorant and narrow-minded comment on your part. If the Imperials don't like it, we should spend all day and night of our personal game time in order to babysit NPCs that Rebels can take down in clusters? No thank you. It's also incredibly hard taking on a group of GTEFers.


I'm usually not this upset about changes, but ramping up the HAM on STs is not the "interesting and challenging" gameplay that you are looking for.

Oh, so what you're saying is you don't want the Stormtroopers to be the "feared/walking death" troops that they are s'possed to be? Read up on the SW Databank, Stormtroopers are the elite fighting squad of the Empire. They strike fear in the hearts of all who see them. And now that they're up to par with what the databank considers them, all the Rebels are mad that they can't just sit alone in a city all by their lonesome and farm mad faction points for that shiny new X-Wing they have their eye on?




Tell me again how 1 player taking out every Stormtrooper in a city is Star Wars? Please remember Rebels: You are not the heroes of the Rebellion. You are simply no-named soldiers in the army, much as the Imperials are.








you are a no named solider with his own pet at-st?



i don't think so jackpipe.




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RedMangg
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:32 pm
#149






Gallbearer wrote:





cknoos wrote:

Maybe I missed this part, but what happend to all starports being able to conntect eachother (aka buhbye coronet hops)? That was the thing I was looking forward to the most :/







Yeah, I was wondering that too... TH mentioned it about a week ago (I don't know if it was a "maybe" or not) but then there was never any mention of it again, yea or nay.






It was a maybe, or a goal as such. And even a 'we are doing' can changeshould always be read as a maybe.


There was a huge discussion on travel times, and I think this was also in line with the Dev's actually finding out what they can do with it. Leaving Starport times the same and reducing the Shuttle times was the outcome. And no doubt will be investigated to see what that does to server loads etc.


And it appears they will be trying to implement a system later that will make those that want the earlier starport times and option.


The Shorter shuttle changes are a welcome to me as a BH and person that tracks down vendors to get items. The Starport times remain the same for now.

capodan76
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:37 pm
#150

So the vehicle storage bug seems to have returned to some extent with the new patch. It seems that if you try to store a vehicle while you are sitting on it using the radial menu, the vehicle registers as being stored, but does not actually go anywhere (you can generate another). I also experienced a bunch of "out of range" messages trying to mount the vehicle, even though I was standing on top of it. That bug popped up before the patch, but seemed to be a little more common today.


Also, I wanted to investigate furtther the Nova Trooper thing...which I was overly harsh about before. I don't know if this was intended, but I was contraband scanned in Kor Vella, and the trooper turned me Overt...that was kind of unexpected. Not sure if that is intentional or not, I am a Lt. Colonel, if that makes any difference.


Other than that, I think this patch has been great and I want to congratulate you guys on a job well done. This patch was so smooth, the servers were back up before I even had my morning coffee! Again, great job guys.


Warder83
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:43 pm
#151

First let me say that I really enjoy the Droid update =) Well done.


But sadly I must also ask the following...


Why can you fix a vehicle bug that acually helps us (AkA the free repair bug) so dam quick, but leave the following vehicle bugs unfixed for so dam long?


1. Warping 100-250m! backwards or forwards when dismounting. (Can cause death)


2. Paying the repair fee at a garage and 20 seconds later having the vehicle revert back to its damaged for with money wasted. (Waists money)


3. Vehice (And pets) Auto-storing while fighting stuff, sometimes causing death when the vehicle will just poof when you desperatly need it.


Which bug was more annoying? Which one do you think we would have wanted you to fix faster?


I'm just curious...



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Arhagellos
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:54 pm
#152






DraxellX wrote:
Armor hole is not fixed.






Ditto, its funny to come online and after witnessing the monumental change in the Pikeman profession, read a new title instead of an old one that sucked but not both titles discussed in the Pikeman forums that would be too much love, going out to test the armor hole and get slammed with it three times in a row. It would be interesting if we got some actual fixes for a change and not just the text on the update screen. By the way, I'm happy armor still works, I was half afraid they'd do something to trigger the hole each and every hit.


Now as of the Nova Trooper hot potato, well just sit back and wait, couple of publishes and they'll bring in AT-ATs for scans.




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ClaudSilverberg
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:57 pm
#153






AzramX wrote:

Yea thats the ticket make ST much stronger.. You people had better pray to god your space expansion isnt buggy and full of crap because nearly all the people I know are only remaining here to see if it is. I thought I read in previous patch notes concerning the crack-down that ST's would not scan people in starports. well brainiacs they do and did. I was standing in front of the ticket droid on Mos Entha and an ST runs up to me and says "Halt.. etc.. etc.." So with me not buffed or anything I just run, but of course I get a TEF, so then I get a message that my bike turned Overt and was destroyed. (Makes sense) (not). and then two goods decide to help the ST and bam im cloning because your stupid system. So now I have to worry about 100k ham Supertrooper that will scan me.. so can you say forcing everyone (like it pretty much is now) to be buffed constantly.. Heck this game can not be played without buffs. And when you get a TEF or whatever the first thing someone does is attack your vehicle because it takes nothing to destroy one.





You realize what your problem is, don't you? Don't carry around sliced gear and spice. Stravag, do you even know what you were being scanned FOR?



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aibo220
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:03 pm
#154






Kaora wrote:

Looks like a stealth nerf to the Savage Quenkers, ranged attacks and more ham?

=(







That pisses me off.


If you're going to change something, without consent from the majority of your subscribers, at least have the guts to list it on the patch notes instead of hoping no one will notice. Absolutely rude and dishonest.


How is anyone supposed to have any belief in you "developers" and your competance if you have to lie and cheat us?


That letter from JustG sounds quite promising. But so did the lowered wait times, truth be told... You didn't do much of anything with wait times for the shuttles. Same with droids, all sounded good but was total crap.


I have little to no hope what so ever in this game anymore under the leadership of our current team of "developers." Everything they say seems to be a sugar-coated lie.


This publish has done more damage then good.




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AGNevek
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:47 pm
#155

Oh yeah I love the fact that the devs add these "Nova Troopers" and all hell breaks loose. Well, ya know you should not be running around with that 1x 2x 3x 4x sliced armor or that outlaw spice on ya. I mean really why even have a crackdown in the first frigging place. I love the fact that when they do something that makes people have to fix an item to keep it or for that matter not have certian items on you. I hear whine whine whine!


Choke it down and play the frigging game. If you don't like it leave the game.


Nova Troopers: Great idea in the fact that now when you are stopped by the imperial crackdown they can take what you were pulled aside for. Instead of just getting killed within five seconds. Want to get rid of them then add the ability for the "crackdown" troopers to call backup in the form of more troops or AT-ST's to enforce Imperial laws.


Broken Vehicles: Another great idea from the devs. You telling me we should have these forever and not need to replace them ever agian? I feel that they should have a perm. destroyed and a continuing degrade system. This way people making these will be able to keep selling them and have an income.
WarpedBob
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:49 pm
#156




Ok this is my first post but I really wanted to know if whatI saw was intentional. Ok earlier today I was returning from Sharnaf hunting on Bria. I was just less than 1000 meters south east of Coronet on Corellia when I saw the new nova troopers. Now whenI first saw a familiar line of yellow triangles on the map overlay my first thought was that they were some of the wandering groups of storm troopers that appear from time to time. ButI happened to notice that the oneI couldwasa different color so while keeping my distance and examinedit and saw it was a nova trooper. No big deal,I thought that one nova trooper was probably escorting the normal storm troopers or something. Upon further examination I realized that the entire group was nova troopers. This freaked me out because to run into 8 nova troopers less than 1000m south of coronet is insane!! Why? I'm sorry but I didn't realize coronet had such a faction farming problem.


This just disturbs me because if they are that close to coronet in those kind of numbers nowhere is going to be safe for rebels. I hope whatI saw was a glitch but if it was not thenI am disapointed in the lack of a better solution to faction farming than to make nova troopers possibly appear anywhere in groups of more than like two. WhatI saw seems excessive and wrong and I hope even the people who like these new more difficult troops can see that too.


ok that's my two cents
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