Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
Swor wrote:
Umm not sure if everyone knows this BUT:
the "Unlocks" caused by glowy means you will be visited by the old man in 2-3 days then you have to wait a undetermined period of time until you can get into the village....
THEN you do some quests for a day, AT WHICH POINT you unlock 1 branch of 4 skills that you THEN get to grind OVER 30,000,000 combat profession XP then after a month you can start a 2nd quest and grind another 30,000,000 xp......
By grinding Holos you skipped a day with a few small quests, YOU STILL HAVE TO GRIND HUNDREDS OF MILLION XP!
THANKS SOE!
they got rid of the grind for me
I'm outta here!
I don't think a lot of folks realize it. You've exchanged your weeks of grinding for...months of grinding! The only "quest-based" portion of this new way to attain Jedi is to open up a line of Force sensitivity training. Once open, you have to convert existing profession XP, depending on the line opened, to learn Force sensitive skills in that line.
In other words, if you opened up Combat Prowess, you now get to cash in your hoarded combat, weapon, and Squad Leader XP in order to learn a skill in that line. If you don't have any hoarded combat, weapon, or Squad Leader XP, you're now grinding in order to get it! You'll need at least 3 or 4 professions in order to earn XP in all of the lines needed to open Jedi Initiate. The conversion rate varies depending on the XP being converted; here's an exampledrawn from someone else's post:
"Say I want to learn FS Combat Prowess Novice which costs 50,000 FS combat experience. I have 900K 2H experience and 90K combat experience saved up from fighting whatever. I can go to Paemos and convert those into FS combat experience. The 900K 2H experience will convert into 30,000 FS Combat xps. The 90K combat xps can also convert into 30,000 FS Combat xps. I can then learn the novice box and have 10,000 points left over to spend later."
Assume it takes a week of grinding in a given profession to earn enough XP to convert into 60K FS experience in the line of your choice. That doesn't seem unreasonable - I've seen folks hit the 900K cap by grinding a combat profession for a hard week. In order to qualify for Jedi Initiate, you need totrain in sixlines of Force sensitivity skills. For each line, 50K for novice, then 175K, 250K, 350K, and 450K FS experience is required in order to complete it. At 1.275 million FS experience to complete a single line, you'll need 21.25 weeks per line at the rate mentioned earlier. That's127.5 weeks, or just a little under two and a half years, to do so. Even if you double this rate, you're left with nearly 64 weeks of grinding.
This isn't quest-based - it's grinding, just in a different form. Hologrinders are being rewarded greatly, whether they realize it or not, because their grind has been shortened by months or even years at the above rate. Each "unlock" given to a hologrinder translates into 1.275 million FS XP in that line, which can be spent wherever that person chooses. If you unlocked before Publish 10, you get 6 "unlocks", so you can fast-track to Jedi Initiate.
But, once again, roleplayers are screwed royally - since roleplayers don't typically grind XP, there's no way in hell they will be able to open a slot in any reasonable timeframe. And, as at least 3-4 professions are required in order to earn the various profession XP types needed to obtain the appropriate FS XP types, you're going to have to go from profession to profession to get it.
Message Edited by FormlessOne on 09-01-2004 08:23 AM
FormlessOne wrote:
jonrogan wrote:
I have one thing to say to people who have recently joined the game and are criticizing the veterans for expressing their utter disdain for the devs. THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT!!!! If there was a single time in this game's history when everything came out and worked as advertisedI cannot remember it. NEVER has a patch worked even 80% right when it is released. When this game first came out there were literally hundreds of issues, some of which have still not been resolved to this day. From factories not working, to bugged quests and NPC's, to the failed hologrinding scheme, the devs have let down veteran subscribers over and over again. To those of you who just joined this game **edit**, you have no idea how many times we have been dissapointed over the last year! The game as it is today is still nowhere near as solid as some MMO's who have been out the same amout of time, or in some cases, less time. Our frustration (veterans) is that this is yet another flopped patch full of bugs and situations that should have been anticipated by the development team. The fact that this patch is about jedi just makes it so much worse for so many people. Also, the devs have proven themselves to be untrustworthy by their own volition, just read TH's post to start this thread and you see that they raised the requirements to get jedi from 5 classes to 8 over the course of the game. This was NEVER announced, and we were promised that this raising of the bar would NEVER happen. So to the 100's or 1000's of people who would have earned jedi months ago if not for this sneakinessI offer my condolences. To those of you who are staying with this ultimately flawed game, have fun, and may the force be with you !
Svissko
Tarquinas - Master of many, Jedi of none
/agree
/agree wholeheartedly!
KingAndreZ wrote:
Hi everyone =)
Just wanted to say that the old man just visited me (15 min ago) ...
Hang in there guys....he is comming.
screenies on theyr way...
Good luck on getting any.
Zangar512 wrote:
Any clarification on that would be nice.
Epak wrote:
darthrotten wrote:
Epak wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Since there is a large wave of players that will be going through the system, we are going to be monitoring traffic daily as players start and finish the Force Sensitive quests. When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down. Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man.
There were 4 people in the Village last night on Kettemoor. This virtual valve seemsexcessively tight.
Could you confirm that they had visitations from the old man, or were they Jedi?
They were ALL jedi. There was a person outside the village who had unlocked after pub9, and he had been waiting all day for a visit from the old guy. He was glowy.
Message Edited by Epak on 09-01-2004 08:03 AM