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Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

LLJK_Griz
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:03 pm
#1418






Thunderheart wrote:





Ramalama wrote:



TH,


Firstly, I hope you get to actually read this because it appears to be a full time job just reading the responses on this thread.




I'm reading them all and sharing thesentiments with the team.





... the same way you read the DWB thread and shared the sentiments contained therein? The same way you let us post 25+ pages of absolute hate for the goddamn super battle droids and then didn't even reply, let alone change it?


This game is run by morons. Combat balance was the only thing in the near future that could have fixed it, but now that's off for at least six months and my subscription will have long since expired by then. If space is on the same level of quality and updates as live is right now, it will be just as crap as live is right now.



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trabickle
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:05 pm
#1419

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JackFlack007
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:06 pm
#1420


Really, I think the only way to solve this is at the management level but that isn't going to happen because management clearly does not care in any way. Soooo... we're screwed is what I'm saying, I guess.


Sorry, Iwas forced to dropmy optimism skill tree yesterday.



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RaijinE
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:07 pm
#1421

Wow, I really honestly have to say the people I feel the worst for are the Smugglers. Remember all the discussion of The Smuggler being an Iconic Star Wars character. Remember how it was told that there proffesion rebalance would take place at a little bit later time to assure that it would be done to the best of their abilities. Remember when the post came up about the sked changes and Smugglers weren't even addressed in it. I think that massive clicking noise was tens of thousands of Smugglers cancelling their accounts. I'm not even a Smuggler and I feel bad.

Hey TH, sorry man. Q sure knew when to make an exit. A change this massive had to be seen coming a little ways away. Did they let you know before you accepted the gig?
Gaenjin
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:09 pm
#1422





Thunderheart wrote:

I'm reading them all and sharing thesentiments with the team.






Thank you, but Haden and Gary should be reading these too. I'm willing to bet that a largemajority of the community feels that Combat Balance is the #1 "game breaking" issue.Every Combat professionhas been "on hold" pending it. (some already revamped for it) Crafting has been "on hold" pending it. It's been acknowledged by the Design team, that Combat Balance is the most important issue to the game, and the community has been counting on it coming soon.


Instead, it's continually placed on the backburner. First it was Player Cities, then it was Droid Engineer, then it was Image Design, then it was Jedi, but Combat Balance was supposed to come out with Publish 10, but then it was disconnected and suspended indefinitely and now it's pushed to far future, maybe next year. Before each of these "revamps", it was promised to the community that Combat Balance was next.


What we have here on the surface is "just another disappointing news to the community" issue. But that's just the surface. Underneath, we need to look at the long history of this issue, and the communication relationship between Designers and Players. Players say "this is game breaking", Designers say "Ok, we agree" but then Designers push it to secondary to everything else on the agenda, meanwhile communicating to the Players that it is the most important issue that everything revolves around.


I guess a good analogy would be the President saying "yes, I hear your unemployed pleas and employment is my #1 priority, because we need a strong and healthy economy for a strong and healthy country", but then he submits military funding request Bills to Congress, so he can send more troops to Iraq, instead of economic assistance Bills, because we have to "stay the course and finish our job".

Ankor
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:10 pm
#1423



AllSixteenHalos wrote:
thanks TH, i know the team is doing a lot, but i gotta say this
i'm gone. and i'm leaving for the same reason a lot of other people are.
hope the game stays alive and maybe we'll all come back after the game isn't severely broken.
take care





/agree

/cancels



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Dreamflayer
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:15 pm
#1424

Well, Smugglers do have it bad....but think about CH (I'm a MCH so I have to put in my 2 cents). They were rebalanced MANY months ago, to go along with this supposed rebalance that has now been pushed back....here's hoping they drop some buffs in the CH direction so that all of them don't quit before the actual balancing takes place.
Huttdrone
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:15 pm
#1425

lol Q3PO didnt make an exit, he got fired because he started to become unthrustworthy to the community, submitting all the good-sounding lies from devs
LLJK_Griz
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:15 pm
#1426






trabickle wrote:

if the piles of $$ permitted it that is.







how come you can have that thing in your sig, but they made me change mine?


gg board mods selectively enforcing rules on people they don't like




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Mattt
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:16 pm
#1427

Hey, I'm allowed to be sad!! heh


But I'm still here so that has to count for something, I guess.



Mattt
vexea
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:19 pm
#1428

Thunderheart,


Given the negative response to this decision, perhaps you could explain why pulling folks off JTL to bring us the combat rebalance first was not the route to take?



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Rooks
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:28 pm
#1429

Wow, by my count, we have almost ONE THOUSAND ACCOUNT CANCELLATIONS within 24 hours!!!!!!!!!!!


Th, Devs, SOE, better get to fixing this FAST cause more and more are quiting and by Monday, you are going to be shocked.


Don't think this will go away cause of the weekend, hell, the weekend players are NOW just showing up and many deciding to hell with this and quitting.


FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!


We have flooded the forums with Quick fixs the last 24 hours.


START implementing them TODAY!!!!!!!!!!


TH, fix it or SOE might as well shelf this game.


I know of at least 20 people that are sending your now classic CB thread to every online game mag. Showing how you guys value your money making Expansion over the value of your already paying customers and game mechanics.


FIX IT!



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Helstrum
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:29 pm
#1430






DarkSmyth wrote:


You all want to make a difference? You all want to get OUR agenda pushed to the forefront of their list of priorities? Here is how we do it. It’s a bit scary and a bit risky, but if we all pull together we can make it happen. Here’s how it will work…


This is a call to every single player in SWG who thinks the Dev Team’s decision to push back the combat balance and the GCW revamp a whole year, as well as leaving the core game we have now in shambles, to work their new money maker “Jump to Lightspeed” is unacceptable. Friday August 6th 2004, we will put SOE on a 30 day notice. Each and every single one of us will hit the cancel button on our accounts. We’ll still be able to play the month of August and see what kind of a response we get. I bet if the whole of the game got together and said “NO! We are not going to pay for you to test and develop a new game while the one we are playing now is completely broken!”, they would change their agenda really quick like. Imagine 100,000 canceled accounts. Take a stand! Make your voice heard! This is YOUR GAME! This is YOUR MONEY!


Let’s all send a clear message to the team. And that message is simply this:


“First, fix all that is already broken in this game! Give yourselves a solid foundation to build on. Next, fix the heart of this game, the GCW. Without it, there is no STAR WARS. Do these two things first, before anything else! Then you can worry about Jedi and JTL. Do this and your player base will love you for it, and the game itself will be infinitely better. Do it not, and this game is dead.”


So there it is folks. Send a message to SOE that enough is enough already. Fix our game now, or we’re saying goodbye. It’s a shame that is has to come to this, but there is no other real way for them to get the message. They have been ignoring us for far too long, let them hear you now!


I encourage all of you to take thisto your home forums and repost it there. Also, copy and send this out to everyone on your friends list ingame. Let’s all pull together and make them give us the game WE want to play. This is for the good of all, do your part. August 6th, hit the button.


Thank you all, take care.






Saddly, that is a good way to make SWG go Earth and Beyond on us.
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