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Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Merril-Rangar
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:37 pm
#131
Combat Balance Affects 100% of your Customers and should be Priority #1. Now it will take about 18 months of paid beta membership before we can see an improvement?


/quit
gtheath
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:37 pm
#132
Nope, not more happy news about Space Expansion. Here's some sad, terrible, horrible news. Hey, at least Coronet is full of Jedi.

- Headline from Stratics
nolan007
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:38 pm
#133

What can be expected from the combat revamp? What should be our expectations?


Only a few defense numbers changed? Everything changed ?


I'm hoping that JTL is beyond fun.... that it doesn't havea gameplay stoppersuch aswhat Combat Medics / Defense Stackers / Uber loot Mind weapons / Combat Imbalances have done to SWG (issues that destroy the fun factor).





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WookieBounty
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:38 pm
#134
...and they thought smuggler would be mad....


This reaches to the core of the gaming community...



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Kais
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:39 pm
#135




Phalx wrote:
This is just another example of how they don't care about their customer base.





I think this pretty much sums it up. Look at what they are saying... the existing game and players are not nearly as important as the new JTL expansion (more money from almost every player) and making the game seem like Jedi Wars (attracting more new players who think they willbe Jedi). I was in beta, and they made it seem like seeing a Jedi would be a jaw dropping experience back then. None of the ads had any Jedi in it at all. Now you see Jedi everytime you turn around and EVERY ad touts how "You too can bea Jedi".


I'm just not sure why they think they need to do this. They already have the largest freaking MMORPG out there, just keep that going and make the game better for the existing people that have been playing (and paying) for WELL OVER A YEAR rather than try to attract every freaking gamer out there. This game can't be a Jedi hack and slash, RPG game, PVP game, flight sim game, crafting game, etc etc etc. Just stick to the core and DO IT WELL. Learn to freaking focus your resources. They have the largest freaking niche out there (Star Wars geeks like myself) and are completely blowing their chance by trying to be The Game That Does It All.



I'm a pretty optomistic guy and even I see this as a very, very bad thing.






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Blue_Harvest
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:39 pm
#136
Nice way to treat your loyal fanbase... *cancelled*



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MarcoRenaldi
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:40 pm
#137




Halfblood wrote:

TH, you guys are doing a great Job. Dont let the whiners win. JTL will be the best and even if the clowns say they are going to quit, they arent going anywhere. I saw the videos and it looks awsome. You are breaking new grounds with the JTL.


They are very inpatient and childish, don't worry about then. If they go they go, but just always say to yourself that the true fans are here to stay and play in the great world you have build us.


Thanks TH, keep it up.





Bah this coming from a Jedi who has two publishes dedicated to making their profession gods



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benbanglong
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:40 pm
#138
crybabies that can't wait? What are you talking about? We have been promised fix for the land game for months. "Wait till Combat Balance" said the Dev Teams. We have been waiting for more than a year to see some change and now we find out that the Combat Balance won't occur for more than 6 more months. 2 accounts = well over $300 that I have spent. I can't wait anymore...for EQ2 beta



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Vegitaa
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:40 pm
#139




Thunderheart wrote:



"Publish 10 will be the Jedi Trials.This will be the new gateway to the Jedi profession that will by a mysterious path to unlocking Force sensitivity."



Ok, so my questions is.. Does this invalidate the poll that we have been voting on in the forums? Because currently the results are 53% for making the Jedi path KNOWN!


Can you clarify wether or not the poll matters (the opinion of the players in this case) or if the Dev's have already decided to not tell us what the new path will be?


Considering the huge shaft we just got wouldn't it be a good idea to throw us a bone here? At least give Force sensitivity to those veteran players that have been here a year (of which I am not one...)


Reimburse those that have sat there and fell short on the hologrind with a little encouragement.


You've got me trapped here till JTL at least but I must say I am a bit disheartened by this.


(Been posting here quiet some time TH could I get my first Dev response please?)







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lore7
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:40 pm
#140
ok heres my post Filter on


you guys are plain old idiots blaming the devs FOR SOMETHING YOU Idiots did the F'ing jedi **edit**'ed up the game not the devs, not the GCW people, not the Jump to Lightspeed all those whining jedi punks out there. if it wernt for them we would have our combat balances we would have our GCW revamp its cause everyone that liked jedi or not were screaming one f'ing way or the other. BLAME JEDI!!!

dont blame the devs...


as the old saying goes...


"guns dont kill people, people kill people"... holocrons and jedi never ruined the game it was you idiots that used em' did...


filter off


im really sick of all you people that are blaming the devs for things that you wanted AKA fixing the game before adding on if you read the post carefully thats what they are going to be doing, putting jedi before a combat rebalnce that was slated to go in last month but because of jedi and there zealots whining up a storm was pushed back now the whole thing is thrown off and the JTL is the way to go in my oppion and hell my sig came true.


"i got my big told you so that jedi would ruin the game"


flame me all you want its true



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Zeon_Zaku
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:40 pm
#141

TH, I had a lot of hope in you when you where promoted, but now that's all gone out the window. I realize the decision to push the GCW revamp to after JtL wasn't all your decision, but as your position you've probably had a bit of say in it.

I'm gonna be totally honest with you... SWG is dying. No matter how many times Jedi are fixed, SWG is still going to die! Face it. The only way to save this game is to bring a Galactic Civil War into this game! How many people simply bought SWG just so they could be a Jedi? Not many. Most people, including myself, bought this game because we wanted to take part in the battle between the Rebellion and the Empire, live our own story in Star Wars, and maybe make a difference in the war. Jedi can't do that. You can revamp the Jedi all you want, but that's not going to make this game more fun.

You guys revamped Jedi because "Jedi are a big part of Star Wars". That's all fine and dandy-- and yes, Jedi are a big part. When you ask someone what's the first word that comes into their head, that word is "Jedi". But Jedi don't make the game. Hell, Jedi are supposed to be rare in this time. But guess what? They're not. Everyone and their dog is a Jedi now. You revampedJedi to make more money. Butthe plan backfired and you've just pissed off even more people and lost even more money.But I'm getting off the subject of what I'm trying to say.

What I'm trying to say is that we need a war going on! You're going to kill this game unless we get a war ASAP. I don't care if revamp will be spread over multiple publishes, but as long as the GCW is slowly being brought back to life and becoming fun, then fine. So be it. But you can't put something as important as this Rebel/Imperial war on hold. You just can't do it.

I don't think you realize the important of the Galactic Civil War. This is more important then any Jedi revamp could ever hope to be. The GCW is what makes this game fun! It's what brings people into this game and keeps them playing! It's what makes you money! One little word: FUN! But this game is quickly losing all its fun. It's been a good five months since I've actually had a lot of fun playing Star Wars Galaxies. Why? Because there's totally nothing to do. Once you master the professions you want, make a bunch of credits, travel to every planet to see everything, get to the Colonel rank in a faction... there's nothing left. Nothing at all. If there was a war going on, we could go out and fight in the war, fighting for our faction and our beliefs. But we can't. There's no reason to fight. Dont' tell me "well, you can become a Jedi". Guess what? This may come as a shock to you-- but not everyone wants to be a Jedi!


I'm truely hurt. I really am. It seems the the Devs are just taking our money and doing nothing. They don't care about us and how the game goes-- or that's how it feels, anyhow. I've lost all hope for this game. The only reason I'm staying is to play Jump to Lightspeed. After the release of JtL, I'll decide if I'm staying or not.

But I can't stress it enough... Jedi have ruined this game. And this choice to push back the GCW revamp... well... you've just killed SWG completely.
It's dead.


Oh, and I know you probably wont read this message anyway. But if you do, TH, or any Devs at all, please respond to something. We need some comfort here and some re-assurance that you're going to make SWG fun until the GCW is revamped! Tell us some of your ideas.

Message Edited by Zeon_Zaku on 07-15-2004 01:43 PM



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EvilAlgorithm
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:41 pm
#142
It was as if hundreds of subscribers screamed out in horror, and suddenly cancelled their accounts...


nice one Blue_Harvest
ChillWolf
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:41 pm
#143
Wow, I am honestly hurt by this anouncement.


On launch day I created my Wookiee and shortly there after I was a Master Ranger/ Creature Handler. Talk about gimped and nerfed. I love both of those professions but about 6 months into the game I deleted my Wookiee because of the lack of armor and the total nerfing and uselesness of my professions.


I created a Zab Master Doc and Swordsman, now I can kill anything in the game PVE wise but PVP is owned by CM/Rifleman and now the Jedi.


I stuck with this game becauseof the great Combat Revamp, I defended the Revamp because I firmly believed it fix alot of broken things.


This announcement isill timed and not well accepted. I find myself really considering no longer playing.


I have lived through a gimped species, been nerfed to hades and back, and yet I still played. I have had the fun of PVP taken away by poision and disease, and yet I have still played. Why? Because the combat revamp that has been promised for months would fix everything. I am an easy going and understanding person but I do have limits.


Please listen to the community. For the sake of this game that we all love.
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