Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Thoughts on the Warren?

Kamat
Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:35 am
#131

There is no group copy so everyone who is on the server in the area is there, no challenge.

Huge times waiting for the spawns expect to spend alot of time just sitting, waiting for stuff to spawn.


If this was another MMORPG this would be a lame, for all the theme parks developed in SWG it is great

What took 3 months for this to be developed?
Vashner
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:30 am
#132






Ekhvram wrote:

Holo who???


inside (if it's a cyborg huurton, could you at least do something to make it visibly a cyborg, like make it/color it metallic some?)



Uh.. cyborg.. is Human tissue and cyber frame and guts like Terminator.. So it would not look metallic. That's a droid your thinking of.



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Osveato
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:46 am
#133


As i read, i see two of the same thing, Wither its is


A) **edit** this place is awesome, i got the badge and everything


or B) this is bugged on our server, fix it


Im in category B, on the wanderhome server, very late, like from 2-3:30 central,
no NPC who gives key. You people do work on sunday right, not like you go to
church or anything. From what i see, by hitting TAB, **edit**, i cant wait to get inside,
once i can, i hope i can




biwan:

Osvaeto Omeirdo

LuisEsilomo
Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:07 am
#134

The Warren itself is nice, but finding the NPC with the passkey to get it blows donkey nuts. It can take hours to find him if you're unlucky - especially if you're alone.
betrayal137
Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:11 am
#135






Vashner wrote:



Uh.. cyborg.. is Human tissue and cyber frame and guts like Terminator.. So it would not look metallic. That's a droid your thinking of.






nah, you've watched to movie one too many times and it has got you thinking too narrow. cybernetics is quite simply the combination of a biological entity with digitally-controlled mechanics. this could be just a limb, or an entire body. the key factor however is that the controlling unit is not machine, but biological. the terminator is actually not a true cyborg. Robocop would be a cyborg, but the terminator would not. In the Star Wars universe, a terminator would fit under the "Human Replica Droid" category. it is at heart after all, a machine. Another example of a cyborg would be Steve Austin (for those very few of you who know who that is, and for those others the"6 Million Dollar Man").


Thus, most cyborgs would end up looking fairly metallic on the outside. Now, to expand a little further, in the situation of Luke in EpV, that would not be cybernetic, but a bionic prosthesis as it is ment to fill the functionality role of what it was replacing, and not some other specialized role (i.e. it was ment to function as though it were a normal human hand, not fill some other, specialized, role).


The cybog animals within the warren should not look at all similar to their natural variants. they would most liky have some sort of updated photoreceptors, possibly armor plating, and might even have weapons mounted upon them. That would be an keeping with a cybernetic entity.


If it looks like a natural creature, it either is a natural one, or a replica droid ment to look like one.


(and yes, i know in the terminator films they call the terminator a cyborg, but they classified it incorrectly)


i would also like to apologize for this being so off-topic, but i felt it might be interesting and informative to a few.




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LuisEsilomo
Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:59 am
#136

No, Steve Austin is not a cyborg, its the same bionic parts replacing his lost body parts as Luke's hand in Ep5. However, he was a little stronger than a normal human, but does it really matter? It's not like he had some lasers shooting out of his fingers...
Valtor
Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:02 am
#137

From reading all these posts I am really excited to get in this building. But I like many others cannot find the ESCAPEE. In this thread someone mentions a waypoint of -508,-3757 as the location of the ESCAPEE. I also checked the walkthrough published by TPE and the same waypoint was given. I and a few other people have gone to this waypoint and searched the surrounding area of the warren. We have found nothing. I have noticed people actually able to enter the warren which leads me to belive it can be done on my server. Does the warren have an entrance limitation on it? Is the ESCAPEE static? Or is the NPC just plain old bugged?


I also see a few posts about the keys dissapearing. So really there is a potential for 2 bugs depending on what server you are talking about. Can we get a confirmation on either of these issues and let us know if you are working on them or investigating them?




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StarNick
Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:31 am
#138

the escapee is only like 100-200 m from entrance to the east right next toa tree its -542 something


anyways, i reaffirm my first post...the warren rocks!


i have never had to HIDE from something in a remote room in a game before! hehe


but aside from the bugs, it is a very enjoyable area (not to mention VERY lucrative in xp/cash) nearly the entire day was spent there! im very excited to see more warren type dungeons in the future, but perhaps a bit different where it doesnt entirely involve combat...more with puzzles and such




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Wookiemute
Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:38 am
#139

The Warren can be completed. I did it yesterday on Kauri with a small group of people. Some things are a bit tricky but it can be done.
Wookiemute
Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:44 am
#140

Btw. I think it's rocks! A bit tricky as i said earlier and it's hard but i love it.


What's the music you hear when you recive a badge? I really enjoyed it!

Waarangel
Sat Oct 11, 2003 5:46 am
#141

On the positive side, there is nothing I can really add. The Warren is an incredible experience. Period.


On the negative side, again, nothing to add...


I can post a suggestion however.


I would make this type of EPIC dungeon area a zone. When you (and/or your team) enter the Warren, perhaps it should load in such a way that your team is the only one in that instance of the Warren. I went there yesterday, and about 80% of it was already completed. So I just followed around and went where everyone went. I still found it enjoyable.


The only part that was not fun was standing for 8 hours around corpses, with about 80 other people, waiting for a letter.


Again, if this was individually instanced for each group, it would be a much nicer experience.


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Corann
Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:40 am
#142

The warren is very cool. It's a great addition to the galaxy.


I was in the warren for hours Thursday night, but last night I wasn't able to get past 5m from the front door. I found the escapee, just like before, he gave me the waypoint and passcode. I go through the front door and then get denied access at the first turn in the hallway (about 5m from the outside door).


One other issue is with the lootable items that are required to finish the quest. Having to wait for keys and letters that have been looted to respawn so that you can continue on with the mission is going to lead to a huge camping issue here. There needs to be some way for these items to remain static and allow each person to loot their own copy without taking the item out of play for everyone else.

A-Slave
Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:09 am
#143

an idea for the next "dungeon". (sorry didnt read the entire post if someone said it already) but perhaps a space station or ship we could sneak on to?


Make parts where we would need a droid with repair skill to fix a door or something for a few min to let us past. Keep up with the story line..and rewards would be nice. Even some tables like in the cantinas....or some of the medical tables? Furniture is always nice...


((btw with this project deadeye...would be nice if we could get a schematic for smugglers to make the stuff))

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