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Message Edited by Goldy_Lhim on 09-05-2005 03:59 PM

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

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Message Edited by Goldy_Lhim on 09-05-2005 02:27 PM

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Message Edited by Goldy_Lhim on 09-05-2005 02:27 PM

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Goldy_Lhim wrote:

HUH?!

I've tried reading Red-Dwarf's notes in the Idiots Guide and I'm just plan stinking confused. Is there like some sort of list of what exactly was changed for me to read instead of trying to scroll and figure out what he's talking about. I know how they work now, I just need to figure out what's changing.

The patch note is:

• Inspiration buff effects will now be visible as they are applied instead of after you stop listening or watching.

In practice this means that as soon as you start listening then the buff icon appears and it is active - if you have a crafting buff applied that means you can start crafting with the bonuses applied.

I think what is going on is we /inspire someone and they get the buff immediately and can craft from the start.

Yes

They shouldn't stop watching or listening because that does something bad.

Correct

I dunno what.

If you are listening to one musician and watching one dancer then by doing /stopl on the musician the dancer will begin applying a buff automatically and wipe out the buff you got.

Something called a "Speed Buff" is happening somewhere.

If you listen to a musician and watch a dancer you get the +10mins from each performer, so it takes half as long to get the buff (hence "speed buff") but if you want the buff to stick you can't /stopl or /stopw (see above) and have to run away from the performers.

And you can enjoy multiple performances but it could screw up the crafter's buff?

This gets a bit more complicated...

Scenario 1:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. As long as they keep dancing and you don't /stopw and stay in the cantina the buff will last forever (or until the hamster's coffee break)

Scenario 2:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You then /watch a second dancer as the first says they are leaving. The second will continue to top of the buff forever (or until the hamster's tea break)

Scenario 3:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You want some music so /listen to a nearby musician. The buff will top up and last forever (or until the hamster's Pepsi break)

Those are the good ones.

Scenario 4:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You then /watch a second dancer as the first says they are leaving but the new dancer is nasty and changes your buff to a BE one (as the /inspire is totally controlled by the performer). You have to then have someone reset you back to the buff you want (which will require another dancer).

Should never happen, all dancers are lovely

Scenario 5:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You want some music so /listen to a nearby musician. However the musician and the dancer are engaged in an "inspiration war" so the musician gives you a Shipwright buff. The dancer then promptly sets you back to a chef buff, the musician retaliates with a Weaponsmith buff and the war continues until the hamsters go home...

Should never happen, but some musicians can be sneaky

Someone help!

Any good?

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I've added it to the guide forany others who didn't understand but are shy.

If you have any other Q's please do ask, I don't bite

Umm, wait...

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

Scenario 3:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You want some music so /listen to a nearby musician. The buff will top up and last forever (or until the hamster's Pepsi break)

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So what you're saying is that as long as the musician doesn't do an /inspire of his own on you, he will top up the dancer's profession-specific buff (in this case Chef), even though he wouldn't normally be able to give you that buff? I thought in such a case the Chef buff would get over-written by the generic xp buff?

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Landlubber wrote:

Umm, wait...

*sits back and relaxes*

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

Scenario 3:

You watch one dancer and they /inspire you with a chef buff. You want some music so /listen to a nearby musician. The buff will top up and last forever (or until the hamster's Pepsi break)

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So what you're saying is that as long as the musician doesn't do an /inspire of his own on you, he will top up the dancer's profession-specific buff (in this case Chef), even though he wouldn't normally be able to give you that buff?

Correct

I thought in such a case the Chef buff would get over-written by the generic xp buff?

If the person has performed /stopw on the dancer then it will. As long as the dancer is still giving the buff then the musician will simply add to that buff.

In case I read it right: any bets/guesses if that's intended, or a loophole in the new buffing system (and hence technically an exploit, although not a very game-breaking one as you'd still need the dancer to get the buff started)?

An exploit would purely give a benefit, this can give a cost, as if the musician is a novice musician but the dancer is a master dancer then the max duration (if you are wanting a buff you can use away from the cantina) will be the lower level of the novice musician (around 2hrs 10) rather than the master dancer (3hr 20 or so).

It may not be purely intended, but isn't a very harmful side effect, nor a really exploitable one, and I think it's nice.

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As a Master Dancer I can only give a 3 hour buff, I'm not Master Entertainer and have no musician. So I'm assuming that Master Dancers only give a 3h 20min buff if they have Master Entertainer?

Also Dance Enhancment CA/BE clothes do not work to increase the duration. Does anyone know if this is broken or intended?

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

If you listen to a musician and watch a dancer you get the +10mins from each performer, so it takes half as long to get the buff (hence "speed buff") but if you want the buff to stick you can't /stopl or /stopw (see above) and have to run away from the performers.

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SlickRiptide wrote:

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Red-Dwarf wrote:

If you listen to a musician and watch a dancer you get the +10mins from each performer, so it takes half as long to get the buff (hence "speed buff") but if you want the buff to stick you can't /stopl or /stopw (see above) and have to run away from the performers.

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What happens if you "extract" in reverse? I /watch Dancer Jane and ask for a Chef buff. It starts filling. I then /listen to Musician Bob and the buff fills twice as fast. At max duration, I /stopl. I'm still watching Jane at this point. Shouldn't she still be topping me off? Does the game start a new buff here instead?

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yes I have nothing better to do