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Esharra

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:54 pm

Please keep in mind that, as with all things in an early beta, we may not be looking at the finished product but at a base code test (although I'm hearing that it's working well & can be applied to self). Also remember that these appear to be novice entertainer level skills, with a decrease in "time to apply"higher in the skill trees.I'd appreciate if, in addition to using /bug to report any bugs you find, that you also notate them on the TC5 bug notes thread as well as with your comments here. Thanks everyone for all your dedication and help!

Message Edited by Esharra on 04-06-2005 08:06 PM

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

Esharra

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:56 pm

#2

oh yeah..Tiggs said this...

This isn't live it is a version of Test Center. We have read it all and are moving it to Test Center for testing purposes. The inspiration buffs are a small part of a bigger picture that is not ready to be revealed.

here.

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

Panthu

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:15 pm

#3

These are awesome!! They are working soooooo well! You get a system message telling you how much you've built up for each tick, you get EH XP for each tick, you buff yourself automatically, you get EH XP even for buffing yourself! It adds to whatever you've spent... so, if you stop for ten mins and run around, it just adds those ten minutes duration back when you dance again!

This rocks!! I can't believe it seems to have no bugs! Even the little buff icon shows up! *faints*

Anyway, yay for this being a portion of the bigger picture and not the end deal... and yay for this portion working so well!!

P A N T H U Y GlitterUsagi
M i n d B o d y S p i r i t
Dancer ImageDesigner Doc

neinnunb

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:35 pm

#4

Im very glad this is just a beginning of new entertainer abilities. I eagerly await the new stuff and hopeful by the way the entertainer correspondents have reacted to what they were told in corr forum.

The buffs work good. Very simple and useful. When the buff is applied you get a little icon showing you that its working, similar to the way buff icons work in live but its placed below your HAM.

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Einhinder

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:49 pm

#5

gah my internet goes down all day and this is what i miss comcast is evil

Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E

FuschiaD

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:17 pm

#6

I will have to investigate.

~*~ F U S C H I A D A R K W A L K E R ~*~

Yes, I'm a respec Jedi. Get over it.

~*~ A V A D I H A L O N A - S O E P ~*~
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Elspeth_Darkwind

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:50 pm

#7

I am playing with a fighter toon on TC5, since I am not touching my ent toon

. This buffs are very nice. If you are watching and listening they go up faster. It is only a 10% increase which is nice. Made leveling a little quicker but not overly. Probably will help crafters a lot.

I am very interested in what this buff system is the start of

Elspeth Darkwynd
Sunrunner - Master Entertainer
Co-Owner of The Dragon's Den Cantina
"The villagers are coming with torches and pitchforks. Please hide me."

Coreena

Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:29 pm

#8

I still can't say I like it, but I was thinking a lot lately about it...

Some people are right, it will turn every novice Entertainer AFK-skilling into a buffbot if they want or not.
And think thats the root of the problem.

As I've said, this is for me mainly a matter of respect not to earn money. Buffbots have their part in why we don't get much respect, but it somehow all comes down to "you can play your class competely afk, why should i respect that".
Even that I have to /setperform for buffs doesn't help really... every buffbut either macros that or circumvents it. So basicly its all passive anyway already.

So I think I'll try to not see those new buffs as something bad, especially since I can't prevent them anyway - they will come, perhaps in slightly different ways, but they will. Don't think it will change a lot for me anyway really.

I just hope they do a few things:
- persistend /deny list. I want to add jerks that I don't like there, I don't want them to get buffed or healed by me, ever.
- remove AFK macros at some point

Coreena Telios
Master Dancer
Starsider Galaxy

Drygo

Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:32 pm

#9

They are definitely working well, and I can see this is definitely something that people are going to want. I don't think we can underestimate that. They won't feel they need them like the mind buffs. But, they are definitely going to want them. I am already thinking how useful they will be to Drygo. And, the fact that we inspire ourselves is great. My one fear, of course, is the afk and passivity making it completely worthless as a way to make a living.

Oh, the only thing I couldn't figure out...I got that little icon saying I was under the influence of an inspiration buff. But, maybe I'm having a brain fart or something. I can't figure out how to tell how much time I have left. I even tried looking for the buff window we have on live and couldn't find it. Can anyone help with this?

- I support hawtpants

Landlubber

Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:16 pm

#10

Esharra wrote:

oh yeah..Tiggs said this...

This isn't live it is a version of Test Center. We have read it all and are moving it to Test Center for testing purposes. The inspiration buffs are a small part of a bigger picture that is not ready to be revealed.

here.

Well, you can put it down to the cynicism that is a direct result of playing an entertainer for almost 1.5 years now, but that does sound more ominous than encouraging to me. Whenever I read a Dev-statement like this, the first question I just have to ask myself is "What other ways have they found to mess this up?" I do not question the Dev's good intentions here, but I have long questioned their competence and ability to make the correct decisions, not just regarding entertainers.

*shrugs*

We'll see. At least that statement by Tiggs means I won't have to post in the feedback threads for now, because they have already acknowledged they are aware of the problems we have with not the concept of the buffs, but the implementation of them. And that's at least a start I guess.

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--Qilue-UCW--

Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:36 am

#11

Ok just want to get this straight

Dancers and Musicians BOTH give the EXACT sameinsperations?

Any Idea what the time diffrence is for a Single Master Vs A Double Master?

If both give the same insperation then why requiredouble masters to give the buffs at the fastest speed? I mean it seeems to me now would be a really good time to make the 2 professions equil yet separate... Allow people to pick one or the other and still be able to give buffs in teh shortest time. Make it so performers don't have to shell out millions of credits on +25 skill tapes for BOTH professions.

I really wish it was you pick daner or musician not because you want to give the fastest and best buffs but because you want to be a dancer or a musician..

P.s No offence intended to persons who want to be double masters. I just think there are people out there who are double masters because they fell like they HAVE to be double masters to be usefull.

Signed, Kyo'nne Ilhar'dro
Kairn Medical Regiment, Chief Medic
Taeor Quartermaster

"I want to find something I've wanted all along... Somewhere I belong"

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ChiiTWINS

Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:17 am

#12

I have a question that I think needs to be answered in order for me to finalize my thoughts on this for sure...

does /denyservice prevent someone from getting their buff?

Let's forget the fact that it isn't static and just has to be reset later. If I /deny someone, they won't get healed, but will they get a buff? From what it sounds like, the answer is no, because apparently doing these buffs counts as ent Healing xp?

Could someone clarify a little for me please?

.Xilev Tahi.
Purveyor of Starships & Freight
Mon Calamarian protectorate of the ashes of Chii

Esharra

Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:30 am

#13

--Qilue-UCW-- wrote:

Ok just want to get this straight

Dancers and Musicians BOTH give the EXACT sameinsperations?

Any Idea what the time diffrence is for a Single Master Vs A Double Master?

If both give the same insperation then why requiredouble masters to give the buffs at the fastest speed? I mean it seeems to me now would be a really good time to make the 2 professions equil yet separate... Allow people to pick one or the other and still be able to give buffs in teh shortest time. Make it so performers don't have to shell out millions of credits on +25 skill tapes for BOTH professions.

I really wish it was you pick daner or musician not because you want to give the fastest and best buffs but because you want to be a dancer or a musician..

P.s No offence intended to persons who want to be double masters. I just think there are people out there who are double masters because they fell like they HAVE to be double masters to be usefull.

Keep in mind..what we are testing right now is a Entertainer profession level skill. It is appropriate that a dancer and a musician would be able to do the same thing at novice Entertainer level, just as with wound healing. A player will be able to apply the enhancement more quickly as they move up in the elite trees.Theoretically, a double master will be able to apply them even more quickly, howeverthere are no eliteprofession trainers on TC5 so we haven't tested that yet. With a mastery of oneelite giving the dancer or musician the abilityto apply the buff in 1 minute, it probably isn't going to be that important to be any faster at applying this Novice Entertainer level enhancement.

For the record and speaking only for myself..I'm master of both Musician and Dancer because I love them & of Entertainer because I love my mando..if I didn't love them..(read: addicted to them), I seriously doubt I would have bothered to masterthe3 profs 3 times each (working on #s 4 & 5).

Message Edited by Esharra on 04-07-2005 07:33 AM

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

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