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I hear you all complaining about tips a lot. I understand your frustration because I was a dancer until I needed the skill points and had to drop it. Now I'm the one who has to go into the cantinas and needs the healing.

I tip my entertainer well (lowest is 5K depending on how much attention they show me). But I have a stipulation for my tips...I must be greeted when I walk in the cantina. Anything will do, even a smile. The first person who acknowledges me is the person who receives my tip. But if I'm not acknowledged at all, I will not tip. Out of the 3 months of playing and being in the cantina, I have tipped an entertainer 3 times.

Now I don't think everyone entertainer is like this and I will state that I usually only go to 1 cantina...but 3 months and only 3 greetings? And I know most are not AFK because they are talking to the other entertainers in Spatial Chat.

I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, just want to clue some of you in on why you'remay not be getting tips like you could. I remember when I was a dancer, hardly anyone was greeted when they walked into the cantina (and I was guilty of not doing it). Now I'm actually the one needing the entertainment and I see everything in a whole new light.

Anyhow just food for thought...

Ignore a lot of the gramatical errors there. Perhaps I should have read it before posting

I just want to mention one thing:

Please people, be serious about the tips. Ineva, a Master Dancer on Eclipse got tipped for 1 credit or 50 credits or everything under 100 credits. I got a 50 credits tip as well. If you think of tipping that amount of credits, please (!!!), let it be. A tip under 100 credits (especially 1 credit) is more insulting than anything else.

What people need to do to get tips differs to every other visitor of the cantina (and not every dancer plays on Intrepid, which is known for the highest and best tips).

E.g., I (as a male dancer) get two kind of tips. Tips for beeing a male dancer *g* and tips for buffing and light show. I tried it, i really tried it many times to greet someone who comes into the cantina, to small talk and ask what the person did. When the person was female i tried to flirt a bit (well, I'm a male dancer). And everytime they didnt chit chat with me neither tip.

Erio Tenjo, Commando/Smuggler - Tarquinas

Areck D'rinet, Master Dancer - Eclipse

I *always* tip. Whenever i get healed by watching an entertainer - I tip. 1k to 5k. The amount doesnt depend on the entertainers skill level, whether they smiled at me, outfit or anything. Just the amount of wounds healed.

Any non-entertainers reading this - tip and tip well. The entertainer is spending their time in the cantina for your benefit and you're using their service. If you don't tip you're just a user with no class.

I think getting tips is very random. Some nights I do well others I do not. Last night I was in the cantina for about four hours, greeting everyone that walked in the door and trying to small talk and recieved two tips the whole evening. I can't wait till they fix missions so that I don't have to rely solely on the generousity of strangers!

To be perfectly honest got tired of saying hello to ppl coming in cantina door and get no reply when you know full well if they are moving they are at the keyboard. Still said hi majority of the time but occasionally after several no replies I stopped for a bit. I always said ty personnal in a pm for every tip from 10cr-3000cr because it meant the person cared enough to even notice me. To me if ppl want greetings when they enter then please say a hellooooooooooooooo . If you see entertainers chatting in spatial then obviously they are at the keyboard...nothing wrong with you offering the first "hey peeps" as many times our camera angle may have moved to teach someone etc . Doesnt mean they were trying to be rude. Also keep in mind entertainers gets tons pms so slow response also not mean you werent noticed. Anyhoo 90% of the time I didnt have any complaints bout the tips I got...I was more interested in the social aspect though.

Yeah, I used to greet people as they walked in, but after most didn't reply back, I started talking to other dancers and basically just having fun with them, instead of the people that walk in. Then again, I'm a male dancer, not many care to see me. =P

When I want to work at being an entertainer, instead of just grind exp or hang out with the band, I do this:

1) I /greet or /welcomeeveryone who comes in, if I can keep up with them. I know that when I played my pistoleer on Kettemoor, it felt funny to walk into a cantina and be ignored. Saying hi when people come in is like everyone shouting "Norm!" in Cheers. It makes at least some people feel good, which is really why I"m doing it. I don't give a **edit** if they tip me or not. BTW: This takes a lot of work. If you see an entertainer doing this in a cantina, appreciate them

2) If the person returns my greeting, I will welcome them with words to invite a conversation. If they respond, I keep talking. If not, I don't.

3) If someone comes in with major wounds, I'll usually react. It's sort of a conversation starter

4) If tipped, I thank them. I know I sometimes miss tips and for that I apologize. The spam is just too much sometimes. I am grateful for every tip I get, no matter how large or small. Even when the tipper is being obviously insulting: tipping me 1 credit and then laughing at me, like someone did the other night. I just say to myself, "Nothing is personal", smile and figure I'm building up good karma.

5) I try to say goodbye to people as they leave.

End result: I get enough tips to keep me happy and in the black. I havemore than enough money in my bankaccountto keep me in clothes and instruments, and I've never advertised for tips, nor done a table dance.Most importantly, I've had a lot of fun getting to know those people who like that little extra attention.

I sure am sorry to hear about this, Theria. I don't like to be ignored, thus I have a rule: EVERYONE GETS A GREETING!

Ever been in a cantina trying to get into the entertainer group and you can't even get anyone to ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE?

Problems I've been seeing:

1. too much time in the group chat screen. You can't spend all your time there without missing what the non-grouped patrons are saying.

2. As people move up the entertainment tree, there seems to develop a certain cliqueishness. Your favorite master musician, your favorite friends, and the way these cliques carry on makes it evident outsiders are not welcome. Some servers seem to be worse about this than others, for some reason.

About tips: in general, I'm thankful for anything however small, since it reflects the correct mindset. But I went out toKor Vella--deserted cantina, as usual--recently and one patron tipped me 40c, another tipped me 50c. I'm glad they tipped but I won't be back.

I am a dancer, and I do not expect tips. I run missions for money. However, I do appreciate any tips I get, no matter how small. I always thank the person who tips me, IF I see the tip message.

If you have never performed in a crowded cantina, you have no idea how fast the text scrolls by. So let me apologize right here and now to all the people who tipped me and did not get thanked for it. I would have thanked you if I had seen you tip me.

Please people, be serious about the tips. Ineva, a Master Dancer on Eclipse got tipped for 1 credit or 50 credits or everything under 100 credits. I got a 50 credits tip as well. If you think of tipping that amount of credits, please (!!!), let it be. A tip under 100 credits (especially 1 credit) is more insulting than anything else.

Maybe the person that tipped her did not have any money and gave her all they had? Maybe it was someone new to the game? Maybe they thought she wasn't entertaining enough? Thats a lot of maybes. Any tip no matter what the amount is an expression of thanks and gratitude for a job done well. Accept it, and smile sweetly. Maybe its someone that tips small to see your reaction then tips bigger when you smile and thank the small tip.

Maybe the person that tipped her did not have any money and gave her all they had? Maybe it was someone new to the game? Maybe they thought she wasn't entertaining enough? Thats a lot of maybes. Any tip no matter what the amount is an expression of thanks and gratitude for a job done well. Accept it, and smile sweetly. Maybe its someone that tips small to see your reaction then tips bigger when you smile and thank the small tip.

Dont tell me that people who are tipping 1 credit dont have nothing else to offer. When i got a little bit healed by a doctor in a medical center, i tipped him some nice organics because I had no money left.

Sorry, but this just shows how much you are worth for people. They spend thousands of credits for houses, for clothes, for armor, weapon, travel tickets and whatever, but they can only give 1-50 credits to a Dancer who keeps entertaining the people, who tries to talk to them, to converse, to make them feel better?

Is this where the society is heading towards? Economy where industry rules over service?

Actually music and dance is the worst paid service in this game and at the same time the most used service. Think about it and then tell me that I have to be happy about getting tipped 1-50 credits.

Maybe its someone that tips small to see your reaction then tips bigger when you smile and thank the small tip.

Never happened and yes, I was kind and nice.

I dont want to denounce everyone who doesnt tip entertainers or only tip a small amount. I just want to say that this isnt right and i am personally feeling cheap if i get tipped in that kind of amount (and I'm not the only one feeling likes this).

I'm in the lucky position that i do not depend on credits that much, that i normally give all my tips to novice entertainer hoping to help them out on their long way to master dancer/musician. It's just when somebody tips me 1-50 credits i rather tip it back then say thank you. I didnt do this before but I'm going to do so. If the one says.. "sorry, i cant tip you or I cant tip you much because I'm broken" it is totally ok because i can see that he didnt want to tip me that less. But it's always like tipping 1 credit and I have don my duty on paying the service...

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ErioTenjo wrote:

Maybe the person that tipped her did not have any money and gave her all they had? Maybe it was someone new to the game? Maybe they thought she wasn't entertaining enough? Thats a lot of maybes. Any tip no matter what the amount is an expression of thanks and gratitude for a job done well. Accept it, and smile sweetly. Maybe its someone that tips small to see your reaction then tips bigger when you smile and thank the small tip.

Dont tell me that people who are tipping 1 credit dont have nothing else to offer. When i got a little bit healed by a doctor in a medical center, i tipped him some nice organics because I had no money left.

Sorry, but this just shows how much you are worth for people. They spend thousands of credits for houses, for clothes, for armor, weapon, travel tickets and whatever, but they can only give 1-50 credits to a Dancer who keeps entertaining the people, who tries to talk to them, to converse, to make them feel better?

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I'd have to agree with Erio on this one. Tipping someone "one credit" is more an insult than an offer of gratitude. Personally, I would be more inclined to sending this individual a "slap" emote, than I would a "Thank you." I'm sorry for being so bratty, but Ifind itawfully difficultto believe that all a person can have in their possesion is"one credit"in this game. Even a newbie starts off with 250 credits.

In any event, If all you have is "one credit" to your name...please keep it. You obviously need it more than I do.