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Thread: WE ARE USLESS NOW

Tirra
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:30 am
#1

SOE in their infanate wisdom have made another clas useless. all we have is a inspiration buff WOHOOO!!! i have never seen a game that the devs change things that insire people to quit playing. the least they could have done was give us a respec. i called SOE CUSTOMER SERVICE, and was told to send a ingame ticket, and that a ingame CSR WOULD GIVE ME A RESPEC......lmao the responce i got from 2 tickets was post it on the fourms so i geuss ive got another toon thats useless. maybe we should all just cancel our accounts to get their attension.
JettVega
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:35 am
#2

I'm going to get a little blunt here so forgive me. Please can it with the useless thing, we're all getting sick of hearing it. WE'RE NOT USELESS. We're entertainers, we always have been, we're just not healers anymore so before you go starting that thread again, think about the fact that we can still entertain it just requires extra effort. You hate it so much? Don't insult the rest of us.



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Tirra
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:42 am
#3

first off this toon was created for the benefit of our guild to reduce BF, the server i am on we do not role play, most dancers arnt dancers for entertainment purposes, people may like playing a toon that has been reduced to what it is now. what i am saying and what getts under my skin is that fact that SOE makes these type changes to several differant classes and then offers no recourse to change your current temp other then to start over. i think your going to find you wont have very many people watching your toon, untill they give some love back to entertainers.
Gothywench
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:50 am
#4

Just....go...away. If you were an Entertainer and bothered to take a look at the forums, you will see how the Entertaine community feels at the moment. Trolling the forum here won't help our cause, so please refrain from making inflammatory posts.

If you have something *constructive* to add, please look at the stickied posts and offer up ideas.




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Gorath: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
Kettemoor: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
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Warryyr
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:51 am
#5


I know that to some folks, things look pretty bleak.


I hope that you stick with Entertainer to see where it ends up, once all of our work is done, but if you don't want to pay your subscription for months to finally see Entertainers get fixed up, then I would understand if you wanted to change professions, or leave the game.


Given that this is your first post on the forums, I think you're one of the folks that was so upset/distraught over something in-game that it brought you to the forums to vent.


That's okay, venting is fine. But, people who spend a lot of time around here seen many "we're useless now!" posts, and their frustration level with being called useless is pretty high.


I hope you stick with Entertainer, and SWG in general, but from a personal standpoint I fault no one for either cancelling their account or getting out of the Entertainer professions.


This game (and our professions) are in a very weird and unprecedented state right now, and hopefully the Devs will see us through.


The current function of Entertainers in this game is to Inspiration buff, and to dance and play music. Hopefully there is more on the way soon. Hopefully you'll stick around the forums and provide feedback on the changes, or your opinion on what YOU think would make Entertainer not "useless" and more fun.


It is you "silent" folks who make a first post in frustration that need to hang out around here more often, tell the community and the Devs how you feel about things, and try to constructively make this game a better experience.


Having said that, trust me - as anyone can attest around here, I have flip-outs and freak outs. But in the end, if you really feel like Entertainers are now useless, how would you like them to NOT be useless? What do you want to do in SWG as an Entertainer? What needs fixing, that is totally annoying?


Warryyr
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:56 am
#6






Tirra wrote:
first off this toon was created for the benefit of our guild to reduce BF, the server i am on we do not role play, most dancers arnt dancers for entertainment purposes, people may like playing a toon that has been reduced to what it is now. what i am saying and what getts under my skin is that fact that SOE makes these type changes to several differant classes and then offers no recourse to change your current temp other then to start over. i think your going to find you wont have very many people watching your toon, untill they give some love back to entertainers.





Also, starting over isn't a huge deal, really.


You can get just about any profession in the game relatively quickly (a couple weeks at most), if you make adetermined effort to do so.


You can always get whatever profession you dropped back at a later date, if you change your mind. There is no permanent damage done, aside from going from a character who's "done" with grinding, to a total newbie in another profession.


If you don't feel your guild is getting any use out of your character now, ask them what profession WOULD be very useful, and go after it.


Tirra
Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:59 am
#7


its true i dont post on the forums, i usually role wth what ever happens, but this is what i was told to do by not 1 but 2 CSR's. at least you can see that the profession has been beat up. Most companys when they make a change and take something away and they are going to replace certain things it happens at the same time. or within a day or 2. they test this stuff on a test server. but here they just snap and its gone. not to mention 9 times outta 10 when someone tries to watch me im too far away. it just seems the class is getting beat down when it was a valuable part of the game. its sad.
Panthu
Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:01 am
#8






Tirra wrote:
first off this toon was created for the benefit of our guild to reduce BF




So, do something else for your guild with the account, like merchant or one of the crafting profs... or drop the account if you really have no need for a guild alt anymore. *shrug* What's the big deal?


Most guild bots lost their job when mind buffs went away. Guild bots are not the point of this profession and never were, Social players are the point of this profession.


Guild alts will always have some purpose, they shouldn't be considered into the design of a prof though. Profs should be designed to be played as content. Guild alts are created to skip parts of the game for an advantage, which is fine, but it shouldn't get in the way of making the prof more playable for those of us who are playing it as intended.




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LordoftheSith
Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:06 am
#9






Tirra wrote:

SOE in their infanate wisdom have made another clas useless. all we have is a inspiration buff WOHOOO!!! i have never seen a game that the devs change things that insire people to quit playing. the least they could have done was give us a respec. i called SOE CUSTOMER SERVICE, and was told to send a ingame ticket, and that a ingame CSR WOULD GIVE ME A RESPEC......lmao the responce i got from 2 tickets was post it on the fourms so i geuss ive got another toon thats useless. maybe we should all just cancel our accounts to get their attension.





My wife plays a Master Dancer character and really enjoys it. Not so much from the play aspect but from the social aspect. Yes, entertainers in general are still good for inspiration buffs, which can play a big part for all the other professions....every little bit of extra xp helps you know. But like everyone else is saying, if you dont like it anymore, there are plenty of other things in the game to do. If you wanna see real true hardcore complaining, visit the BH or Jedi forums.....



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Drygo
Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:19 am
#10

It just doesn't upset me that a guildbot is quitting over this.



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Warryyr
Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:36 am
#11






Drygo wrote:
It just doesn't upset me that a guildbot is quitting over this.





What bothers me about this is that even if a guildbot DOES quit over this, and we end up getting cool stuff that CAN be botted, they can AFK right back to Master with no effort on their part, and continue on their merry bot way, providing our stuff to people with no effort to grind OR provide our stuff to anyone who wants it.


I'd really like to see some commitment that will ensure that our elite profession buffs will have a dedicated effort put forth in them to make them NOT AFK'able.

Message Edited by Warryyr on 07-27-2005 12:38 PM

Gothywench
Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:38 am
#12



Warryyr wrote:


Drygo wrote:
It just doesn't upset me that a guildbot is quitting over this.


What bothers me about this is that even if a guildbot DOES quit over this, and we end up getting cool stuff that CAN be botted, they can AFK right back to Master with no effort on their part, and continue on their merry bot way, providing our stuff to people with no effort to grind OR provide our stuff to anyone who wants it.

I'd really like to see some commitment that will ensure that our elite profession buffs will have a dedicated effort put forth in them to make them NOT AFK'able.

Message Edited by Warryyr on 07-27-2005 12:38 PM





You are both, sadly, correct.




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Gorath: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
Kettemoor: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
Kettemoor: Yohai Darksun - Master Entertainer

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Kyree-Sunrunner
Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:49 am
#13


Tirra wrote:
SOE in their infanate wisdom have made another clas useless. all we have is a inspiration buff WOHOOO!!! i have never seen a game that the devs change things that insire people to quit playing. the least they could have done was give us a respec. i called SOE CUSTOMER SERVICE, and was told to send a ingame ticket, and that a ingame CSR WOULD GIVE ME A RESPEC......lmao the responce i got from 2 tickets was post it on the fourms so i geuss ive got another toon thats useless. maybe we should all just cancel our accounts to get their attension.





Perhaps you are useless, but I am not.

My primary purpose as a dancer is to have fun and be social. My secondary purpose as a dancer is to entertain my guild, friends, and public. Neither of these things have changed with the loss of healing.

We still have our inspiration buff that's good for xp, crafting successes, and faction. We have been told that there are more types of buffs coming down the road. None of these buffs are ESSENTIAL, and that's just fine with me.

Entertainers should now be considered muses. The buff is nice to have, but you can still have fun and get things done without them. If that's not enough for you, then either quit or go play something you feel better about playing.

There's a horrible shortage of doctors. Maybe if you want to heal, you should go play one of those.
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