Dancer Archive
Thread: will the new buffs just bring back the bots?
Message Edited by Cuit on 07-25-2005 07:45 AM
Cuit wrote:
MY question . . . the mind muff was one prime reason why the bots were created
I was going to try to write my opinion, but got to that line and just spit my coffee.
As odd as this sounds, it is appearing that BOTS are the majority of entertainers at the moment. That doesn't sound "right" but my observation on Tempest is that ATK players are few and far between with BOTS being more easy to find.
The best reason I heard for there beingBOTS now is that you can AFK to master and then use your last respec to get master in a profession you can't AFK to master. If that is the real reason for all the bots that still remain I guess they should start disappearing in about a month?
Till then maybe the question should be, will the new inspiration buffs bring back ATK dancers?
If the new buffs will be AFKable then yes, the BoTs will be back.
Gothywench wrote:
Cuit wrote:
MY question . . . the mind muff was one prime reason why the bots were created
I was going to try to write my opinion, but got to that line and just spit my coffee.
/blush . . .how embarassing . . .fixed it
Cuit wrote:
/blush . . .how embarassing . . .fixed it
I have a filthy filthy mind.
CandiDance wrote:
The best reason I heard for there beingBOTS now is that you can AFK to master and then use your last respec to get master in a profession you can't AFK to master. If that is the real reason for all the bots that still remain I guess they should start disappearing in about a month?
Wouldn’t use of ID be more efficient for this? One can master ID in less then 2 hours now … or is ID not used for this because it gives them less points to respec with?
Petronela wrote:
Wouldn’t use of ID be more efficient for this? One can master ID in less then 2 hours now … or is ID not used for this because it gives them less points to respec with?
As much as I hate all of the FS XP stuff and everything related to grinding professions I care about...just a couple notes.
1. ID cannot be done AFK.
2. It takes longer than 2 hours. You can do it in a few hours, *if* you are paired up with someone who can do training for you or sit with you in front of the NPC trainer.
Folks were doing it in 2-3 hours during double XP week.
Bring BACK the bots?
For the most part, the bots never left.
AFK is as much of a problem as ever, in fact the Entertainer professions are very bot-friendly right now. Everything tangible we can offer as a benefit to other players (Inspiration buffs)is now 100% AFK'able, through totally passive means. No more "hassle" of grouping with bots, hell now you can just listen or watch and get what you want without uttering a single word.
Even if elite profession buffs are put in, as you stated - it will just encourage bots/alts/whatever to deny us content. And if it's AFK'able by any means...it will be AFK'd, and AFK'd thoroughly, as this game's community has shown us.
It is because of this 100% AFK'able and bot-friendly state that Entertainers are in that I'm taking a break for awhile.
This is never where I wanted to see Entertainers end up. This is absolutely atrocious.
Somehow, folks...we've let the bots win. Hmmm, actually...it's not our fault.The Devs have more than obviously facilitated the Entertainer bot playstyle, and I for one refuse to participate in this game so long as this "bot-friendly" attitude among the Devs remains.
Account on hiatus. That is all.
I refuse to accept the state that Entertainers are in, because we should never have gotten here in the first place. This Dev team has lost it's mind if they think they've improved us at this point.
Message Edited by Warryyr on 07-25-2005 10:08 AM
The only thing that troubles me right now is the thought of the new buffs being passive. That will continue to promote the afk problem.
Message Edited by Panthu on 07-25-2005 11:41 AM
Panthu wrote:
The new buffs will be one more thing to do if a) they are designed to be interactive so there is no in game way to afk them (like ID and Crafting) ORb) there is enough of a demand for them that it won't matter if bots are doing them too.
Gothywench wrote:
Petronela wrote:
Wouldn’t use of ID be more efficient for this? One can master ID in less then 2 hours now … or is ID not used for this because it gives them less points to respec with?
As much as I hate all of the FS XP stuff and everything related to grinding professions I care about...just a couple notes.
1. ID cannot be done AFK.
2. It takes longer than 2 hours. You can do it in a few hours, *if* you are paired up with someone who can do training for you or sit with you in front of the NPC trainer.
Folks were doing it in 2-3 hours during double XP week.
Actually, I can go from novice ent to master ID in less than 2 hours. My record was I think 1 hour 50 minutes (doubled from 55 actual minutes since it was during double-xp), and I could've done even slightly better if I *really* wanted to. Also, I do this without being paired with someone (the pairing actually slows me down slightly if it's my alt running a macro, or more significantly if it's someone with real-person lag). My only limiting factor ended up being my mind bar, and I imagine with a doc buff and foods I could go even faster.
And while I don't see *everyone* doing it as fast as I do, I have seen some who have done so.
(Now to read the on-topic parts of the rest of the thread
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