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Panthu

Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:22 pm

Thunderheart wrote:

In our discussions to find a way to enhance the experience for entertainers, dancers, musicians and the people whose battle fatigue they are healing, this potential solution came up. I know similar things have been discussed in the community and I wanted to get your feedback.

For the time being, leave everything as it is right now, except add a new feature for entertainers. If I go into a cantina and there's a macro entertainer there and a "real" entertainer there, the player chooses which one they want to actively listen/watch. I can, if I want, just watch the guy macroing and heal myself up, which takes, let's say for example, 5 minutes.

But if I start watching the real guy that's there, I get a message in a little box that says "Tell the Entertainer to do flourish 7” and the player says, “Hey, can you do flourish 7?" The entertainer says, "Sure.", does flourish 7, and the player gets a big bonus to the healing, the entertainer gets experience for the extra healing effect and now the player only had to hang out in the cantina for two minutes instead of 5 minutes. There was some interaction, the player was able to do something besides stand there and everybody's a little happier.

In the future that player will come back to the cantina and say, "Hey that's the cool dancer that did flourishes for me." The player will be healed, the entertainer will dance and the experience is improved and hopefully the dancer will get a great tip.

Do you like this sort of approach?

For those who haven't seen it, please go post your response in the In Concept thread. Yes, they are really asking.

P A N T H U Y GlitterUsagi
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Warryyr

Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:07 pm

#2

Wow, it's great to have some solicitation of ideas from the Devs. Let's just hope they follow through with something, without adversely affecting our professions.

In regards to TH's idea, it kind of sounds to me like they're trying to slap the audition code from the Entertainer Quests into the interaction between us and cantina patrons.

The inherent problem with this is, well - if you're at an audition, the person listening/watching is going to say "show me XXX dance step!" or "play XXXX for me, play flourish XXX." This, quite frankly, doesn't fit well with the type of interaction going on in cantinas, between us and patrons. It would be quite rude to say to an entertainer mid-performance, "do this, do that, play these notes, do that dance step again!" The entertainer at this point is performing, and it's notusually acceptable for an audience to bark orders and requests to the Dancer/Musician. It's disrespectful to the person performing.

This casts aside any regard forentertainers who have routines/songs worked out with flourishes, and focuses mainly on getting the patron out of the door faster. It would be detrimental to our game in regards to the effect on our dances/songs.

Also, I don't really see how this would increase any conversation between entertainers and cantina patrons - instead, the patron not only gets spam but they get pop-ups.

I posted some of my thoughts onTH's suggestion in that In Concept thread, and some ideas I've had on solving the buffbot situation.

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Esharra

Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:54 am

#3

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

Xyrdre

Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:10 am

#4

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Deila Karlossi , Blue Glowie of Dancers, and become more powerful than you could possibly imagine...

ArgentWulf

Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:41 am

#5

Xyrdre wrote:

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Ack I refuse to *jiggle* for anyone . . . err well most anyone. . . /blush

Leivi Esava
Galaxy Girl for May 2005
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Esharra

Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 am

#6

ArgentWulf wrote:

Xyrdre wrote:

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Ack I refuse to *jiggle* for anyone . . . err well most anyone. . . /blush

I don't do it of my own free will. But I've got this dance partner who likes to call itwhen he's needingrevenge sometimes.

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

ArgentWulf

Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:04 am

#7

Esharra wrote:

ArgentWulf wrote:

Xyrdre wrote:

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Ack I refuse to *jiggle* for anyone . . . err well most anyone. . . /blush

I don't do it of my own free will. But I've got this dance partner who likes to call itwhen he's needingrevenge sometimes.

LOL! I hear that! We sometimes get it too when somebody accidentally *cough*onpurpse*cough* does it.

Message Edited by ArgentWulf on 07-18-2004 12:05 PM

Leivi Esava
Galaxy Girl for May 2005
Life is a journey, not a destination, enjoy the ride! A special friend makes it even more fun.

Esharra

Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:30 am

#8

ArgentWulf wrote:

Esharra wrote:

ArgentWulf wrote:

Xyrdre wrote:

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Ack I refuse to *jiggle* for anyone . . . err well most anyone. . . /blush

I don't do it of my own free will. But I've got this dance partner who likes to call itwhen he's needingrevenge sometimes.

LOL! I hear that! We sometimes get it too when somebody accidentally *cough*onpurpse*cough* does it.

Message Edited by ArgentWulf on 07-18-2004 12:05 PM

Yeah..but don't you know..one of these days he's going to wake up with something nasty stuck in his lekku and well..he'll only have brought it on himself.

Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)

Schardour

Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:31 am

#9

Esharra wrote:

ArgentWulf wrote:

Esharra wrote:

ArgentWulf wrote:

Xyrdre wrote:

Esharra wrote:

"do flo 7, I'm in a hurry"

*jiggle*

My first terrifying thought too...

Ack I refuse to *jiggle* for anyone . . . err well most anyone. . . /blush

I don't do it of my own free will. But I've got this dance partner who likes to call itwhen he's needingrevenge sometimes.

LOL! I hear that! We sometimes get it too when somebody accidentally *cough*onpurpse*cough* does it.

Message Edited by ArgentWulf on 07-18-2004 12:05 PM

Yeah..but don't you know..one of these days he's going to wake up with something nasty stuck in his lekku and well..he'll only have brought it on himself.

Oh jeez, now I have a little chihuahua AND a cuteZabrak threatening my sleepy-time

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Amida_Enterprises

Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:46 pm

#10

frankly I think it's a great idea.. just make it so that players who don't want to 'be ordered' can turn it off, like the bandflo's..

nice to see the devs are at least giving time and thought to the problem, and great if it helps!

/hugz

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Panthu

Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:16 pm

#11

Drygo wrote:

AFK by itself isn't the problem, the buffbots are. Please fix this.Working onit!

And, I would encourage all the other entertainers out there who have a similar story to tell every day to post it here so that we can show the extent of our problem. Oh goodness please don't right now. Old Panthu might go right over the edge (you know my B-day is in two more days). I've got books worth of nightmare stories, I have plenty to show the Devs... besides, they are pretty much getting it now I think. We just have to help them find ways to fix it that we like.

I've just spent most of the night in a pre-CB meeting... I think we've got some new proposals you guys are going to like a lot.

If even half of these get approved, we will have many ways to out perform AFK buff bots as a Live Dancer in the Healing/Buffing arena. I can't say whether or not AFK Bots will ever go away, but I do for the first time think we have some ways that will make it not such a big deal for us.

I'll keep you guys posted, but I think this In Concept thread of TH's was a great foot in the door even if it's not the right answer for us. Over all, support for Ents is very high right now in the Corr Forum and I am very excited about that.

P A N T H U Y GlitterUsagi
M i n d B o d y S p i r i t
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Lesia

Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:42 pm

#12

Yep, Yep, Drygo, I posted a similar message around page 10. Along with profusely thanking TH for giving our profession consideration. If the bf healing idea was used to make ATKentertainer buffs trulysuperior toAFKbuff bots, then we'd be getting somewhere.

Lesia

Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:49 pm

#13

oh HAPPY B-DAY, PANTHU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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