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Thread: Ask Devs questions, be seen, be heard!

Panthu
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:06 pm
#1

Ok guys. We aren't Healers according to Dev communication. Entertainer Healing has always been something of a misnomer apparently since it isn't supposed to have anything to do with a traditional RPG Healer role. You can disagree with this, you can try to talk the Devs out of it, but whatever, this is and has been the word from above. It looks like the CU changes will be coming in and enforcing this even more. It's time to stop the community denial and deal with it.



So, what are we if not Healers? What do things like "Entertainers are meant to be Social not Functional like Doctors" really mean? Does it mean that we are entitled to some kind of special roles dealing with player events for our Ent SP investment? Should we be gaining some access to some social enhancements that only we can "bring to a party" as Ents? Should we be given some special privileges or advancements in event tools... perks for entertainers one might say?



Or should we be asking for purely Performance based enhancements? Things like better ways to build Dances and Songs and perform them with others?



Where do we fit? What can we ask for? Will the Devs talk to us about these things? Please, get out there and post!



Talk to Pex about our role with Events



Talk about our over all design in the game in the CU threads



Go go go!





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Ravanne_Esi
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:23 pm
#2


Why bother? We have never seen any indication that they do more than look for some way to shut us up and hope we go away. I've gone thru the entire information posted on the CU and no where are any of the Entertainer professions mentions, even obliquely. The talk about the combat profession, they talk about crafting profession, they talk about the healing professions, which it seems we are not. But no where do they talk about the Entertainer professions. We should face the facts, we are of NO interest to them. None. The only thing that will be left to us is to be happy with what ever small scraps they decide to toss our direction to keep us paying our $15 a month. One thing I suppose we should be happy about is I'm sure the CU will solve the buffbot problem. of course they seem to be solving it by removing any reason we might want to play this game as opposed to hanging out in some chatroom.

Message Edited by Ravanne_Esi on 03-29-2005 07:24 PM



Ravanne Esi
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Ragin' Rancor Enterprises
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Panthu
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:38 pm
#3

It is absolutely pointless to post such rants here. Stop whining and do something useful or just admit you don't care. I do care, so I have tried to help the effort and I am trying to help the community I care about possibly get some attention in a way that might work.


I have been doing this for a long time now. I will not stop until I am forum banned or the Ent Professions are removed from the game. If you want to sit and sulk, go for it. That's not what I do though. I said I'd be a rep for this community and by golly I'm going to keep trying!






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Schardour
Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:51 pm
#4






Panthu wrote:

by golly






*giggles*




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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:13 pm
#5






Ravanne_Esi wrote:


Why bother? We have never seen any indication that they do more than look for some way to shut us up and hope we go away. I've gone thru the entire information posted on the CU and no where are any of the Entertainer professions mentions, even obliquely. The talk about the combat profession, they talk about crafting profession, they talk about the healing professions, which it seems we are not. But no where do they talk about the Entertainer professions. We should face the facts, we are of NO interest to them. None. The only thing that will be left to us is to be happy with what ever small scraps they decide to toss our direction to keep us paying our $15 a month. One thing I suppose we should be happy about is I'm sure the CU will solve the buffbot problem. of course they seem to be solving it by removing any reason we might want to play this game as opposed to hanging out in some chatroom.

Message Edited by Ravanne_Esi on 03-29-2005 07:24 PM





why should the devs lsiten to us we if say stuff like this....


if we don't talk they don't know what we want i'll admit they havn't been so good at listen to us in the past however if you feel completly hopless and have given up don't whine here n a thread about trying to gain us a voice an attention quit either dancer or the game.





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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:18 pm
#6

I have an idea about how we can do something for entertainers economically and keep in mind we are the socilites of the game.



these new event planners in hotels ae great i lvoe the stuff but what if we made the entertainers the vent planners were losing mind wound healing right why not replace it with something like event coordnater you wanna hold an event you wanna have al lthose cool perk things well you have to hire an event coordinater to do it alot of dancers and musicions already run party planning buisnes this will jsut make it better. im not saying make us crafters and we gotta make the stuff but were like the go between people you ocme ot us and the higher level we are the better stuff we can get for you. i dunno just a thought thatcame to me anyone wanna take it and translate it to english and post it in one of pex's threads feel free i tend not to psot in them because im dyslexic and my typing loosk like that of a 3rd grader





Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
Panthu
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:22 pm
#7






Einhinder wrote:

I have an idea about how we can do something for entertainers economically and keep in mind we are the socilites of the game.



these new event planners in hotels ae great i lvoe the stuff but what if we made the entertainers the vent planners were losing mind wound healing right why not replace it with something like event coordnater you wanna hold an event you wanna have al lthose cool perk things well you have to hire an event coordinater to do it alot of dancers and musicions already run party planning buisnes this will jsut make it better. im not saying make us crafters and we gotta make the stuff but were like the go between people you ocme ot us and the higher level we are the better stuff we can get for you. i dunno just a thought thatcame to me anyone wanna take it and translate it to english and post it in one of pex's threads feel free i tend not to psot in them because im dyslexic and my typing loosk like that of a 3rd grader







That's awesome! Go post that for Pex in the Events forum, I don't know that he'd go for it but that's where this kind of stuff is going to have to be asked.


If we are going to be given a special role tied to Events, we're going to have to go through Pex and that forum. It's not something we can do in here and through our Corrs (I promise, it's been tried).





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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:23 pm
#8






Panthu wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

I have an idea about how we can do something for entertainers economically and keep in mind we are the socilites of the game.



these new event planners in hotels ae great i lvoe the stuff but what if we made the entertainers the vent planners were losing mind wound healing right why not replace it with something like event coordnater you wanna hold an event you wanna have al lthose cool perk things well you have to hire an event coordinater to do it alot of dancers and musicions already run party planning buisnes this will jsut make it better. im not saying make us crafters and we gotta make the stuff but were like the go between people you ocme ot us and the higher level we are the better stuff we can get for you. i dunno just a thought thatcame to me anyone wanna take it and translate it to english and post it in one of pex's threads feel free i tend not to psot in them because im dyslexic and my typing loosk like that of a 3rd grader







That's awesome! Go post that for Pex in the Events forum, I don't know that he'd go for it but that's where this kind of stuff is going to have to be asked.


If we are going to be given a special role tied to Events, we're going to have to go through Pex and that forum. It's not something we can do in here and through our Corrs (I promise, it's been tried).





ok but lemme edit it and spell check it and make it coherent first.....damn dyslexia






Fainora Sarrasri

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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:29 pm
#9



yay for yahoo mail spell check

Message Edited by Einhinder on 03-29-2005 09:36 PM





Fainora Sarrasri

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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:30 pm
#10


hands out warm brownies and cold diet coke with lime

Message Edited by Einhinder on 03-29-2005 09:36 PM





Fainora Sarrasri

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Ravanne_Esi
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:37 pm
#11

I'm sorry if I'm being somewhat negative right now, but lets face it, the CU is about 6 weeks off. If it's not in there now, it ain't gonna be. There is no time for them to do more then tweaks and bug fixes before the CU goes live and that will be their main concern for the foreseeable future.


They say the main sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and again expecting different results.




Ravanne Esi
Master Dancer, Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Ragin' Rancor Enterprises
New Hope, Naboo
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Einhinder
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:40 pm
#12






Ravanne_Esi wrote:

I'm sorry if I'm being somewhat negative right now, but lets face it, the CU is about 6 weeks off. If it's not in there now, it ain't gonna be. There is no time for them to do more then tweaks and bug fixes before the CU goes live and that will be their main concern for the foreseeable future.


They say the main sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and again expecting different results.





they also say only sociopaths dream in colour but ive yetto comment mass murder yet so dont believe everything you hear.






Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
Panthu
Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:46 pm
#13






Ravanne_Esi wrote:


They say the main sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and again expecting different results.




You know, I site that saying all the time too. It was Einstein who said that, I love him. Anyway, when I see a flood of Ent posters out in the Devs' threads really trying to get our community voice outthere and heard where it will count... over and over again for an extended period of time and it still has no effect... then I will admit defeat and give up.


We haven't even tried this plan yet.


*thanksFainora for the snacks* /whisper I have to always spell check too.




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