Dancer Archive

Thread: We Got /denyService

OneWonder
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:23 am
#1

I hope everyone should be happy with this. They gave us what we wanted. /denyService



Terrence Bears

Entertainer




Of Your Dreams...
DoveAthodo
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:30 am
#2

Yipeee hooray !!!



Dove
Coir
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:41 am
#3

Not all of "us" wanted negative reinforcement.


Some wanted the exact opposite actually.




Coir
TC/Valcyn

"lol, there is an inter office bet about at SOE about how long this thread will get before we give up. "
-Rorrari
DoveAthodo
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:49 am
#4

I never actually wanted to deny anyone yet, but I saw so many posts of people asking for it so....I gave it a yippie.



Dove
picklesSW
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:24 am
#5

I just hope it's used in the proper context...punishing abusive patrons, not forcing tips.

- J




Beery
Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:32 am
#6

It was already possible, before /denyservice, to force tips (by refusing to dance in a cantina where you are the sole entertainer). I never saw anyone do it, so I don't seewhy they should start now.


/denyservice will finally give usa similar level ofcontrol that other healing professions enjoy. It won't affect the fact that the vast majority of folks don't pay for theservice we provide, but it's a step in the right direction - i.e. more control over our profession rather than less.




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LoraJ
Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:59 am
#7

The only time I will ever use it is when someone is disrespectful to me, or a known scammer walks in the door.



lora jae
Blademaster
Bestine, Tatooine - Tarquinas
Mariki
Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:41 am
#8

This is so weak its hardly worth a comment...


So we get to denie services and they click on someone else or we go LD and come back, whatever comes sooner...


This is their big enhancement to the Dancer profession...


This is so sad...


I am out of skill points now and I guess I know where I will take them from now...


I mean come on... Dancer skills certainly aren't as important as just about every other skill in the game...


Look at the list of BH changes compared to the list of dancer changes and you get a real good idea where the devs are focusing their time, every where else, thats where...


I certainly like dancing, I thought it was cool to go dancing at the club, but the devs have also made it a quite useless skill except for healing ungrateful fighters and all the skill points it has used up is just plain unjustafied...


Even though I only had low level skills, I am kicking myself for giving up weaponsmith skills for this so calledprofession... sigh




Mariki Lee, Ex Rifleman
Last day Dec 2nd
Death by NGE
- All Hope Gone
Hijo
Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:58 am
#9

I wonder what the complaint flavor of the month will be now that you all got this...
Mariki
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:04 am
#10

Lol Hijo


You think this useless thing is going to have one bit of effect in the game?


The thought that you do kinda makes me LOL...




Mariki Lee, Ex Rifleman
Last day Dec 2nd
Death by NGE
- All Hope Gone
Sinda
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:10 am
#11

I predict two things will happen:

1. MOST of us will never touch /denyservice. First, it doesn't really affect the target that much, especially if he can find other entertainers to heal his Mind. So I denied him service, so what? It's no more punitive than /ignore.

2. There WILL be those who abuse /denyservice. I will promise you this - even though I do not dance publicly in cantinas anymore, if I walk into one in my travels where a group of entertainers is abusing this new feature to extort tips from patrons, I will immediately start dancing and returning all tips given to me. And I will verbally remind everyone in the cantina why I'm doing it, too. I don't need Dancer XP, so spare me the threats of not grouping with me.

We need to think harder about the image our profession has in this game. /Denyservice won't do a thing to help that image.



Sinda Blackstar
Master Dancer/Teras Kasi Novice
"Looking at what parts of your game players tend to automate is a good way to determine which parts of the game are tedious and/or not fun." - Raph Koster
TheSillyOne
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:20 am
#12

Thank you!!!!!



-silly-


Save your breath. You'll need it later to blow up your date.
Chessack
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:46 am
#13


Beery wrote:

It was already possible, before /denyservice, to force tips (by refusing to dance in a cantina where you are the sole entertainer). I never saw anyone do it, so I don't seewhy they should start now.






Ah here is the problem. The type of people who will abuse /denyservice would never be found in a cantina as the sole entertainer. They're already in Theed or Coronet where they can max out their XP by being in a huge group.'

It's the groups of, if you can call it this, "Powergaming Dancers" (oxymoron I know, but just go with it for a second or two) who will be abusive.

The worry is not that responsible dancers will use it irresponsibly. The worry is that the irresponsible people will do so -- generally, people who are not dedicated to the profession, and have no serious investment in it -- and that these people will give all of us a bad name, and poison the atmosphere between entertainers and combat classes far worse than it ever has been to this point.

I hope I'm wrong. But I have the feeling that my fears will be borne out.

C



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