Dancer Archive
Thread: Concerned with adult situations
If your an adult use your judgement and use that customer service button to report players behaving badly.
For those that encourage this type of play please stop. If and when Soe comes out with an adult server then go at it.
Does anyone else feel that this behavior is inapropriate?
Umm were you lookin for it hun? How were ya dressed... ah hmmm...dancin in Bestine???
Perhaps you should dance in Chiton or cover up better- you won't get propositioned then :-)
I should not be looking for *it just for the reasons being that I play a dancer.
Something tells me your not used to being propositioned... Guess you're RL dancin never resulted in that sort of response. Keep in mind as in RL if your a hottie dancer this will happen as in game.
Sorry if this comes as a shock to ya... my advice is (you're in the wrong profession). Perhaps a chef?
"Supporting" what you're calling virtual sex situation doesn't mean act this way with a total stranger. That being said, the thread on this matter was more about private dance than cybersex.
All servers are adult I guess..since you have to be one to play ( as advertised in the box ).
Just my thought.
Celixia wrote:
A few players that post on the entertainer/dancer forums need to rethink on supporting roleplaying virtual sexual situations. Last night I was point blank asked if I would virtual sex with another player. This behavior is not acceptable when considering that young children play this game.
WHICH behavior is unacceptable honey? Having Virtual sex or Asking YOU the question? Considering the WIDE variety of people that play SWG and the history of online games since they began, I think its rather a moot point WHETHER its going to happen.
If someone ASKED you then can simply say 'NO' and carry on with whatever you were doing. Now if they PRESS the issue after you HAVE said 'NO' that's an entirely different matter.
That fact that YOU do not approve of others activities is not a sanction that most people will recognize. I see a LOT of behavior in the game of which I don't approve but I recognize that that is MY opinion and is not binding on them any more than yours is.
SOE has a specific prohibition against sexually explicit speech which most interpret as Public speech. SOE has not deigned to clarify whether that prohibition covers Private speech and I suspect they wont. That is a nice Politically Correct way of covering their read ends. If a controversy arises all they have to do is say 'Well we prohibit such speech.' and retroactively apply it as needed. If the Devs of this game have ANY experience in the online world then they were and are perfectly aware that such activities take place in virtually EVERY online game in existance. What two individuals say to each other in a private group channel is Their business unless and until SOE chooses to try to enforce speech regulation in Private communications also.
As far as children go I suspect that the vast majority of people choose other adults with which to engage in such activities. If they DON'T and a child is exposed to such activity then I have to ask: Where is the child's Parent? Why is his or her activity NOT being monitored by the parent?
Celixia;
Cybering has little to do with sexual roleplay. The sorts who ask outright for that are the sorts who will go around to every dancer they find (or halfway friendly female, for that matter) and pop the question until they find an amenable party. Nothing you can do about it but /ignore and go on with your life.
I think the "maybe you aren't cut out for the profession" comment was out of line, but you do have to resign yourself to the fact that you will be "propositioned" often as a female dancer,whether it's for RP or other purproses. /ignore is your friend if it bothers you.
Online games always have and always will be used as virtual dating services. You can't avoid it, and asking for cyber isn't, in and of itself, a reportable offense. Harassment,where you say no and the person persists anyway, is a different thing. However, it doesn't sound like you were harassed unless there's more to the story.
Chalk it up to experience and when it happens again, just say "Thanks, welcome to my ignore list".
Agreed very much with Slick.
This has nothing to do with career or RP, not when presented in the manner it was to you. However, asking that question on a single occasion, in my opinion, is not inappropriate. Because YOU have moral or other issues about that sort of thing does not mean everyone does. If the person was asking the question, it is almost guaranteed that it is because they have done so and gotten a positive response, whether in SWG or otherwise.
Where this would have crossed the lines into something 'reportable', in my opinion, is if the person had continued propositioning you, forcing the issue, or simply begun talking dirty. Even that, however, would be a 'report and move on' sort of thing, because you're more than welcome to ignore him.
MMO or otherwise, there are vastly different views throughout the world on sexuality and what is 'acceptable' or 'not acceptable'. Don't attempt to force your own moral and ethical beliefs on everyone else - it's a losing battle, and frankly, none of your business to begin with, so long as you are not being harrassed with such requests constantly from the same person,e tc.
parents cant monitor children 24/7 and yes many children do play swg even if it is advertised as an adult game. All im asking for is better judgement from posters here that promote the behavior. For one im not into being a virtual peadaphile.
I have played most of the online games since UO and I never have experienced this type of behavior flawed diamond.
parents cant monitor children 24/7 and yes many children do play swg even if it is advertised as an adult game. All im asking for is better judgement from posters here that promote the behavior. For one im not into being a virtual peadaphile.
Okay, sweetie. Try re-reading what people are saying.
"Promoting" is far different than accepting, or not making moral judgements upon. I don't think I see anyone here sayong "Oh yes! I became a dancer so that I could cyber sex with customers and fulfill my inner fantasies, so it's perfectly okay and leave me be"
What we ARE saying is that if someone else wishes to engage in it, that's on them, and it's really none of our business.
Your pedephilia comment is completely out of line. Anyone who does accept or participate in this sort of thing is not a pedephile simply because there might be a 14 year old on the other side of the keyboard.
Judgement is something you seem to have vast experience in, given the ones you're throwing around at everyone else - perhaps you should reanalyze that before pointing fingers at the rest of the world.
All I am asking for is that the more prominenet posters in the Dancer community quit promoting the behavior. Why is it so hard to understand Child Safety.
Consider this thread closed for all intents and purposes.
The "consider this thread closed" thing really never works unless you can actually close the thread. But, as a person with an opinion that loves controversial topics I have to throw in my two cents. Feel free not to read.
I have NEVER seen anyone on this forum promote cyber sex. I have seen numerous discussions on exotic and erotic dancing and how that can acheived with an avatar. I have see a few on lap dances or private dances. Those things are not the same as cyber sex and I think that is where you are hitting a snag. If you can't tell the difference, then that's your deal. But there IS a difference and a big one.
Now.. on "child saftey". I love the way parents always try to make the rest of us responsible for their kids. If someone is intentionally trying to lure the young players into private rooms to "cyber sex" them than yes, that person is a predator and needs to be reported not only to the games but also to the authorities. As is, that is not what people are doing. You can generally get a pretty good feeling for whether or not someone is over 20 by the way they talk. And I'm sure the few who actual are cybering do their best to gage the maturity of their audience. Plus.. this game specifically says over 18 on the box. If you are letting your child play games which are specifically gears to adults and which even have an age warning on the box, then you should not be surprise if you're child runs into an adult situation once in a while. And if your child is the one wandering around asking dancers to cyber than that is also on the parent.. not the propositioned dancer. You cannot monitor them all the time, no. But you have to make them aware that they may hear and see things from time to time which are not child approriate. Let me repeat for those that are slow on the uptake. If you let your child play an adult game don't expect everything to be child appropriate.
Maybe you could petition SWG for a kids only server.. that would be much more productive than expecting adults in an adult game to "consider the children". I personally try to ignore the children.
Any parent that lets their child use the internet unmonitored needs to be put in jail for child endangerment.
As far as supporting/promoting virtual sexual situations... Please tell me you aren't serious. Think about what this game centers itself around. A galactic civil war. Death, destruction, killing, murdering anddrug (spice)running. Almost sexual situations (no nudity,a language filter and an ignore feature built in!!!)bother you though? You are the moral avenger with blinders on.
So to answer your question, no I do not find this type of behaviour inappropriate and any thing I do find inappropriate I ignore or if it's beyondmy ability to ignore I report to the CSR.