Dancer Archive
Thread: Concerned with adult situations
Then maybe children should be playing a different game. Just because it is a "game", doesn't mean parents should automatically ignore the adult content warning. Look at the outfits the characters can wear... look at theexotic dances that dancers can do...do you think this was intended as a completely sex-free game? Hardly. Not that I'm endorsing cyber-sex, but dancing is obviously designed to be a suggestive profession to say the least.
Children need mommy and daddy's credit card to buy and play this game. If mommy and daddy don't know anything about the game, and let junior play it anyway... well, then they are asking for it. Would you let your child be an exotic dancer in a cantina full of men? Oh yea, great parenting there...
Ok, child saftey on an online game. That is a hoot. I'm a parent of a 14 year old and she likes to paly the game. So I have a talk with her before hand on what people can try to start. I also don't hide sex from her. She in-turn comes to me with quesitons when she hears something online that she is confussed about. And I happily explaine it - yeah it can feel a bit uncomfortable but by keeping us talking even on sexual topics I have learned that she isn't afriad to discuss them with me. She always says no to people when they proposition her on the game and even has sent them tells to inform them she is only 14 and to refrain from this with her. She has never had someone talk dirty to her or force themselves with harrasment. Everyone seems to be take the word no as just that no. But then I take responsiblity for what my kids may learn and try to stay active in all aspects of their development - including sex. Sorry parents but damm - pay atention and talking does more than restricting and trying to keep them babies forever.
However, I must admit that is my personal beleif and may not mesh with yours - but wanted to let you see there are many ways that this can be taken. If you find something that is offensive to you - let the people you play with know. If they like being around you and respect how you feel then they may change their ways. However, if they don't you may need to find a place in the game that does fit what you want. That is the beautiful part of the game you aren't restricted to one spot.
MamaFalcon wins.
Just like I would not allow my child to rent or watch a porno movie... I would not allow my child to play a game that said over 18 on the box.
I feel that if a child is allowed access to things that are illegal then the parent should be held responsible for allowing them to participate in adult activities.
The same would apply to a parent of a minor that bought their child a beer and ciggies.Just because it is a game does not absolve anyone. I know for a fact that in the adult toy stores there are "adult games" that I would not allow my child access to and is illegal to sell to minors.SWG has the warning and is one of those.
Just as a store would be responsible for selling adult material or substances that are illegal for minors,they are also responsible for selling this material to minors that state over 18.
I know that Hastings cards for over 18 materials. Therefore, if a child has this game in their hands then someone is responsible for the child getting materials that are not appropriate or legal for their age.
Other game players can not and should not be responsible for trying to monitor the world's childeren. I'm not saying that a person shouldn't help if they can. However, if they find out that a child is playing that is under 18, I feel it should be reported to customer service. Not only is it a risk to a child, it is a risk to whatever adult ends up talking to them thinking that they are another adult player. Also, in this way, the parents can be sent a warning and can then verify that they are an adult, etc. Neopets makes parents sign a waiver before children can access chat/etc. to contact other players in writing, not over the internet. Might this be a possible way to insure that children are not playing an adult game w/out a responsible party present?
Some think, oh I can tell that its a child by the way they type or express themselves. I work with individual's with disabilities who have difficulty typing and expressing themselves, however they are very capable adults that are their own guardian because it has been proven that they are capable of making decisions. So just because someone can't type or spell correctly does not always mean they are a child. Its not fair to these individuals to be treated as children because someone is afraid that they are speaking w/ a child. By the same token, some children are very well spoken.
I hear a lot of complaints but no real solutions. Are there any solutions out there; and might a written waiver be required before a child can play be one solution? Maybe stronger reinforcement of stores not selling to minors is required? Do parents need to get together and go to a higher court to insure this just as they have for beer and ciggarettes? Also, who should be prosecuted when adult materials fall into children's hands that could contribute to child endangerment? Would it be the Store? The creators of the game that did post a warning? Or should it fall to the parents? Or are we going to prosecute all the adults that have been duped by a child who says they are an adult even though there is no way to tell?
While I have known of quite a few young children that play MMO's and I've always felt that in a controled environment it can be ok I would never recommend to any parent that I know that an MMO would be a good game for them to purchase for their child. Most of the younger kids that I've been aware of playing played only under adult supervision and with their parents.
The teenage crowd is a different story and while once again I'd never recommend an MMO to a parent seeking to purchase a game for them I don't see many problems with teenagers playing. Most teenagers that would choose to play these types of games would not be shocked by what they see. TV and movies are much more explict for the most part than what can be emoted. And unless a parent censors all online activity for their teen games are generaly safer than a chat room environment.
To Telmac you need to get some facts straight. Being propositioned in game has absolutly nothing to do with asking for it or with the way you are dressed. My character has never underwear danced rarely worn short shorts and about the riskeish I have gone at this point is the casual jacket with no top, I am friendly and welcome everyone as they come into the cantina and will have some friendly chats with them while they are there I don't blow kisses wink sugestively and my normal response to those emotes is either a point black ignore ora blush. My character has been propositioned or had down right crude sexualcomments made to her on an almost daily basis since I took up dancing. My response to those comments and references is a no thank you or a welcome to ignore and to move away and dance in another area or stop dancing all together.
Sexual banter and propositions are a part of the internet and something that will be seen in MMO's, the only way to avoid it is to not play. By playing a female dancer I am sure I open myself up to a larger number of them than otherwise however my medic gets similar propisitions while healing wounds in the med center. Thankfully I'm tough skinned and internet swavy enough to see the world the way it is and not take much of it too seriously.
I agree, MamaFalcon wins. Hehe.
Life has sexual content and so does Star Wars 
Celixia:
Who has promoted this? You keep telling people to stop promoting it, but I don't think I've read ANYONE promoting it.
I think you're confusing "promoting" and "condoning".
Easy example:
- I don't tell people to eat broccolli. I don't tell people NOT to eat broccolli. If they want to eat it, they can, if not, then don't.
- In this case, I am not promoting broccolli. I am not opposing it. I am condoning it.
- I tell people to eat broccolli. Eat, eat, eat!!
- In this case, I am promoting broccolli.
- I tell people to NOT eat broccolli. The stuff tastes horrible!
- In this case, I am opposing broccolli.
We have developed an odd way of dealing with controversial subject in the US. That is that if we talk about things and someone gets upset over it we ban talking about it at all. That way no one get 'offended' which is Supposedly all for the good. The fact that the issue just gets put into abeyance and never resolved seems secondary.
The other odd habit we've developed is that if ONE person is 'offended' by an activity or speech we try to regulate that behavior so that NO ONE is ever offended. Or we...PRETEND TO.
What results is a sort of willing hypocrisy and schizophrenia where we Publically prohibit activities while sort of 'winking' at it the rest of the time. Same thing here. The SOE Terms specifically prohibit Sexually explicit speech, yet things like /lick and /suggestive wink in game and the overtly sexual outfits available to dancers make it perfectly clear that the Devs were completely aware that adult activity was going to occur in-game.
So they PUBLICALLY prohibit such speech while tacitly providing the tools to facilitate it. Laugh!
When people DO try to discuss it in an adult fashion, attempting to deal with and come to some kind of consensus or at LEAST be aware of everyone's attitudes on the issue, the thread is locked as 'inappropriate'. Laugh!!!!!
American Political Correctness at its finest. hee hee
I do not perform lap dances or do any sort of cyber sex with people online period. You just do not know who is on the other end.
Last night I was chatting with some "guy" in the cantina and he eventually told me he was 10! I can't imagine why someone would want to approach another person in this game and proposition them when there is the possiblity that they are underage.
Frankly I wouldn't want to cyber anyway.. but you have the law slightly wrong. A person goes to a club and picks up a girl. He asks her age and she says she's 19. They go home, get busy and he later finds out she was 16. He can still go to jail. I don't get that part, but he can. It's even harder online as you can't even see the person to help determine age.
But, on that note, if you are letting a kid play this game expect this to happen at least once and prepare the child on how to respond. In general a "no thank you, I'm not interested" and a /ignore will do the trick. Now if the child is asking to cyber you have a whole other can of worms... but that is still the responsibility of the parent.
Min'Tora Ehi
I don't know why is it so hard to understand that this is FICTION. What happens between 2 avatars in the game has nothing to do with the real persons behind them - children or adults.
You are objecting about sexual situations between avatars? Then what about killing other avatars? Am I a killer in real life because my avatar kills another one in game? I don't think so.