Dancer Archive

We've seen an increasing number of Dancer Trolls recently. Guys who come in to the Cantinas (probably 14 year olds with sexual identity problems) sexually harassing the dancers or making truly crude, obnoxious and sexually explicit comments. The filters are fine but with even a tiny bit of creativity they can be worked around fairly easily.

When they come in and start that, we've gotten to where we just stop dancing or playing until they leave or other have a ..."talk"... with them. Now we watch for some of the worst of them and when they appear we stop immediately.

We're Dancer's and Entertainers. We're not sluts or whore's or any of the many other things we're being called. And I for one am not going to tolerate it. Anyone who does is simply encouraging them.

I understand that we're RPing in what is in someways a very primitive culture, especially in places such as Tatooine as it was pictured in the movies. But there are limits.

Maybe we need to add some special combat moves for Dancers such as Knee to the Groin which will not initiate a combat sequence but still allow damage to be dealt out.

Even better would be the ability to target a player and NOT provide BF healing for them.

FlawedDiamond...I love the idea of a 'Knee to the groin' combat ability! Hehe...every woman should have that skill in the game as an innate gender ability! hehe...Especially dancers!

I am a medic, but dance for fun after work, and I have yet to encounter anyone that was being rude or suggestive when I am in the cantina...but would be very quick to tell them off if I did meet such a person. I dance purely as a personal hobby, and I will NEVER put up with that attitude from anyone in the game. Maybe I am lucky because many of the people in the cantina each night are the same patients I heal as a medic during the day, and they remember that...or maybe Kandaara is just a bit more civilized than Tatooine, but I have yet to experience any of those types of issues.

I say, definately stick together and don't put up with rude or offensive people when you dance...

I need to make a macro to emote that Knee-to-the-groin combat move...hehe

Mekova the Medic

Kandaara, Naboo

Kettemor Server

You are more likely to solve the problem by ignoring them and pretending that you don't hear them. If you stop the band you are punishing your real clients, and if it happens to often they may start looking for another place to relax. Also, I think it fits the RP aspect much better - let the patrons that are soldiers take care of the unruly visitors.

I will warn once, if they persist they get reported for sexual harrassment. We are dancers not hookers.. well at least the majority of us. There are some that do that.

Yes, I have encountered this. I am assuming the person was some 15 year old kid who felt grown up when he said the word "whore", suggesting that I perform an act he has only heard about second hand. I ignored him, but would have had no hesitation about reporting him if he had kept it up.

I am a dancer. The very act of dancing incites people to watch your body move. We are attracted to the bodies of others and therefore there is something inherently sexual in dancing. This does not mean that it has to expressed crudely. And it doesn't mean I am inviting a sexual encounter with another player. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, mostly just venting my frustration .

Taking offense from a game is certainly interesting, and most definitley not healthy.. letting 14year old kids effect you is just silly. Ignore them.

I respect everyones effort in the local cantinas and hospitals and always try to tip as much as I can. (Im pretty much **edit** broke is the reality, but I like to show at least a little appreciation).

What amuses me is the ubitiqous question: "Are you female IRL?"

When I first started MMORPGs about three years ago I would evade the question big time. These days I have a more effective way of getting rid of it that I thought I would share here if any of you come up against it and not sure what to do

- Are you female IRL?

me: ignore

- Are you female IRL?

me: ((Yes, what has that got to do with anything?))

- Can you send me your picture?

me: ((No. This is a game not real life.))

either they (a) go away or (b) continue harassing

In the case of (b) depending on how bad it gets I normally go for ignoring the player (I SO wish we could ignore avatar rather than just filter the chat! Be useful for some of those nude dancers ) If it is particularly unsavoury then report them to customer services and ignore them.

Trolls are everywhere, but sometimes it does feel like open season on our profession

As I said in another post, the more I think about this issue the more mental conflict I run into. No. Such behavior is not pleasant. But then at the some time we're RPing in a world where there is still Slavery.

I don't see any way we can apply the R/L rules of sexual harassment to SWG and still maintain the world the game purports to model. The two seem mutually exclusive.

I've found the majority of players to be gentlemen. We've found handing the problem over to other players to be the most effective way to deal with it if we can't deal with it ourselves. If all else fails find a better Cantina in which to dance.

I mean we're RPing Smugglers and Bounty Hunters in-game.

Surely Murder is more offensive than Sexual Harassment? Duels are offensive to some and were outlawed LONG before sexual harassment. There is slavery at Jabba's place. Surely some people find slavery more offensive than sexual harassment. Yet slavery was outlawed (at least in the US) LONG before the concept of women's rights was even a topic of dicussion.

Maybe we should have SOE send Jabba to Diversity Training.(grin)

Your arguement only holds up if your dancing in Jabba's palace Flawed. Otherwise its terrible RP and makes no sense at all. Hate to break it to you but Slavery IS outlawed in the majority of the galaxy, has been for a long time on pretty much every planet besides the ones controlled by the Huts. A good portion of the Galaxy is actually rather civilized, take Theed in Naboo for example.

Not to mention in most decent establishments with a good owner, that owner is going to take care of his preformers. He may not want to pay them what they deserve but he's not going to let them get treated like dirt unless your working for a real scumbag, which case time to move on and find a better employer. Most Cantina's would really have some sort of bouncer or guards to take care of customers that get out of hand.

Putting up with it isn't just silly, its bad RP. If the person won't stop and won't leave then think of the CR's as your bouncer and let them deal with it. Then of course after all this is a game and people are expected to abide by the rules the game has in place. There doing some things these guys are doing they're breaking the rules of this game and should be delt with. This is a game, people play to have fun, enjoy their time and for some, roleplay. Taking that kind of abuse and not having it dealt with is not fun, not enjoyable, and bad RP.

Don't let it get to you. This world will always have bad people that try to make other people miserable. The more you get upset, the more they win. In your holocron, there is a "Customer Service" button. Use it and report the person. Thats what its there for. You shouldn't have to deal with slander and harasment, nor do you have to. Report him(or her) every time they do it. It will be resolved eventually.

If you just can't deal with it anymore, go to your community window and put the offender in your ignore list. Personally, I would not do this because I would rather report the offender every time. I understand that there are people in this world that are just mean and stupid; you can't do anything about that. I don't get upset by them.

sorry, I just started an almost identical thread.

I didn't read the forums prior to posting it so I didn't know this was hear since the topic was kind of generic.

If I pull away posts from here sorry... it wasn't my intention.

It's been a rough night in game for me.... the start of many I fear.

i havnt been offended my anyone in the cantina i dance in. (eclipse-naboo) and if the day should come i know how to /ignore. I have a sick sense of humor myself sometimes. But some of us are not role players - I havnt stopped dancing or refused to dance for anyone based on behavior. lots of my friends have moved over from DAoC and we had a mostly adult guild where we all shared the same sense of humor and it was a blast. But i'm just play'n to have fun..i'm not taking it too seriously. I try to keep my dirty sense of humor between my friends and people i know also share my sickness lol

Wickedgirl

What I would like implemented is that if you have someone on /ignore, they cannot benefit from your dance. That would solve the problem. We could /addignore a_jerk00 and he'd never get service.