Dancer Archive

Hello,

I would like to explain the difference between unattended macroing and afk macroing. The unattended macroing refers to afk macroing WITH the use of 3rd party programs. AFK macroing with the tools the game gives us is ment to happen.

Info in Knowlege Database (ctrl+h --click customer service---click knowledge base-- type afk in the string search.):

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=25697

My question to a CSR and his responce:

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=25694&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y

No one ever acused it of being illegal its just some of us are annoyed when we walk into a full cantina 20 people or so say anyone not afk and not get a single awnser! I think we all would like it to be made illegal and they just shorten training time for master dancer as right now it is very hard to obtain without going afk.

This is old news. Jeassa clarified that for us 3 months ago. That doesn't mean it's an acceptable practice, nor does it exonerate the negative effects AFK macroing has on the game.

lmao. Lots of people call it CHEATING, well I guess they allow us to CHEAT in this game.

It might be old news but many people don't realize it.

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Eclosion wrote:
It might be old news but many people don't realize it.

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Tell me. Does it change anything at all?

see dead horse

beat dead horse

steal napalm

torch dead horse

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NeoTheHutt wrote:

see dead horse

beat dead horse

steal napalm

torch dead horse

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You know, it's not a horse. It's an enemy. And as far as I'm concerned, it's not dead until it has been defeated. I'm sad that people just give up and go with the flow. Maybe they are better off and more happy that way--I'm certainly not.

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Ravenmist wrote:

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Pendarin wrote:

I'm with DaraShaku-- It is??? I think I missed the memo.

The last message I got from a dev via PM indicated that entertainers were the least important thing on their list.

I'm choosing to remain skeptical until I actually see a change. But I'll be one of the happiest entertainers on Eclipse if they do finally resolve the AFK macroing issue.

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Unless that PM came from a dev who's name started with a K(which I'm 99% sure it didn't), that PM doesn't mean Jack. And yes, it is a big concern of theirs, the problem has gotten out of hand and we all want it fixed.

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Now, it is not my intent to shoot the messenger. Ravenmist has been doing an incredible job sticking up for us and it is my wish that he continue to do so. But that was posted on 09/29/2003--more than 3 months ago. Has *anything* at all been done to even *attempt* to curb AFK macroing?

No.

"Is AFK-macroing okay? Yes it is."

Actions speak louder than words, so at this point it doesn't seem like they give a flying hoot about AFK macroing. SOE folks aren't superhuman criminals and they are too smart to lie to us. So it seems to me that not everyone is connected on this issue. Keep bringing it up and it may just get some attention among the 30-some other professions.

Now I know the pleas are not falling on deaf ears. But so far it seems they are falling on apathetic ears, which is just as bad.

Here's one for SOE: How can you possibly think that allowing people to blow through your business assets in a non-sustainable fashion is not worth investing a little bit of time to fix? Your business is based on sustainable content--that it takes 3 months, not 2 weeks, to master a profession. Why allow it (and indeed, not discourage it at all [reference holocron article])to occur?

I just don't get it.

Just because you have the right to do something does not mean that it is the right thing to do.

>lmao. Lots of people call it CHEATING, well I guess they allow us to CHEAT in this game.

Indeed, they do. It is legal and I will still call it exploitive gameplay and cheating because unattended gameplay is hurting other people playing this game. SOE is not punishing it for their own reasons ( probably the same reasons that let them start release 6 months early and not listening to bug reports ). Hurting your fellow players is always wrong.

>lmao. Lots of people call it CHEATING, well I guess they allow us to CHEAT in this game.

Oh, and can you quote the law or legal advice that does not allow me to cheat on my neighbour with his wife ? I guess the state allows us to do so... I still think it's wrong and I will call cheaters by name if I see some.

There is hope though!! A certain well known building in creature village was recently removed ,,(deleted,,poof,,gone) that was being used by afkers to gain combat skills without taking any damage. I personally have seen players there from server up and then there all day without once being damaged.

This building didnt go poof by itself ,,it was specifically removed and what that means is that SOE felt it was not appropriate for the game. Dealing with the entertainer afk problem is just more complicated in terms of a solution but I have complete faith they will eventually solve this horrid disease. And the sooner the better.

AFK entertainer skill gain must be stopped,,,,and it will be ,,just not fast enough for me and others.

"I would like to explain the difference between unattended macroing and afk macroing. The unattended macroing refers to afk macroing WITH the use of 3rd party programs. AFK macroing with the tools the game gives us is ment to happen."

Thanks for the lesson, but we already knew what the terms meant AND Sony's stance on the entire thing. In fact, it was on this forum that their stance was initially clarified, about a month and a half ago.

This is only AFK thread #2 started on tuesday, I think. You people are slacking. Our average is 3. I expect 4 AFK threads today (wednesday) to make up for this, or there will be hell to pay!



- J